JimMe

As far as the Presidency and Vice-Presidency are concerned, the overall popular vote has never been thought of... Congressional Representation of each Individual State is the key, as the Presidential/Vice-Presidential elections are won thru an Electoral College based on each States' Congressional Representation...

When State Legislatures force their State Electoral College Representatives to cast their votes for anyone other than their State's Presidential/Vice-Presidential winners, they are disenfranchising their own State's Citizens' choice... And disenfranchisement is tyranny...

woodguru

But how about 50/50 races where half the state votes for the other candidate, how do you feel about people's vote meaning nothing? How about the one person one vote concept that is the foundation of a democracy?

Since it is a state prerogative the states that choose to honor the votes of their populations are the ones that get it right. Especially since three red states with questionable election systems and policies and no willingness to recount even if they could called the election. Let the electoral reflect the people's vote.

bahmer

Amen and Amen

karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!

Absolutely

Colorado, And Maybe Another
Want To Pitch Their Votes To Whoever Wins The National Popular
With-Out Regard To Voters Choice Of Their Own State

Dems Are All About Fair Franchisement

JimMe

Can you hear yourself?!? You're stating State Legislatures actually have the "prerogative" to disenfranchise their own State's Citizens' choice when their Citizens didn't "go along" with a plurality of the USA Populous Vote... How asinine can you - and those State Legislatures - be?!?

karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!

That's What Democracy Is, Isn't It ??

BTW
Their Vote Meant Something
They Lost

Wonttakeitanymore

It does reflect the vote! The illegals shouldn’t b represented! How about an audited count! Mexico makes you present an I’d and be a citizen!!!!

rafterman Loc: South Florida

Here's the search result snippet from the web search "What are the flaws of the electoral college" https://tinyurl.com/electoral-college-flaws (This link is a good quick look at four flaws https://quizlet.com/106104246/flaws-in-the-electoral-college-flash-cards/)

Here's the search results snippet from the web search "What Are the Advantages of the Electoral College" https://tinyurl.com/electoral-college-strengths

Strengths
It requires a distribution of popular support. ...
It gives minority interests a say in the election. ...
It encourages political stability. ...
It maintains a system of national representation. ...
It creates the possibility of a minority president being elected.

More items...
5 Advantages and Disadvantages of Electoral College – Vittana.org
https://vittana.org/5-advantages-and-disadvantages-of-electoral-college
Pros and Cons of Electoral College

Pros.
It protects minority interests. ...
It facilitates a two-party system. ...
It directs more power to the states. ...
Cons.
The person a majority of Americans favor may not win. ...
It's complicated and dissuades people from voting. ...
Small states and swing states get more power.

Note: It would take a Constitutional Amendment to dissolve use of the Electoral College and go to direct voting. That means it would take 38 state legislatures approving an amendment passed by Congress

It seems that, since they couldn't win the last presidential election under the rules that have existed for almost 250 years, they want to change the rules. Below is an excellent explanation of why this is a very bad idea In their infinite wisdom, the United States’ Founders created the Electoral College to ensure the States were fairly represented. Why should one or two densely populated areas speak for the whole of the nation?

The following list of statistics has been making the rounds on the Internet. It should finally put an end to the argument as to why the Electoral College makes sense. It needs to be widely known and understood.

There are 3,141 counties in the United States.
Trump won 3,084 of them.
Clinton won 57.
There are 62 counties in New York State.
Trump won 46 of them.
Clinton won 16
Clinton won the popular vote by approximately 1.5 million votes.

In the 5 counties that encompass NYC, (Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan,Richmond & Queens) Clinton received well over 2 million more votes that Trump. (Clinton only won 4 of these counties; Trump won Richmond).
Therefore these 5 counties alone, more than accounted for Clinton winning the popular vote of the entire country.

These 5 counties comprise 319 square miles. The United States is comprised of 3,797,000 square miles. When you have a country that encompasses almost 4 million square miles of territory, it would be ludicrous to even suggest that the vote of those who inhabit a mere 319 square miles should dictate the outcome of
a national election.

Large, densely populated Democrat cities (NYC, Chicago, LA, etc.) DO NOT and SHOULD NOT speak for the rest of our country!

bahmer

Amen and Amen

rebob14

Dare I say it again? Sure..............the U.S. is Not a democracy............it’s a Constitutional Republic.

GmanTerry

I guess you have difficulties understanding English. The difference between One person, one vote is that large population States would elect the President to the total exclusion of the smaller population States. You seem to forget that this is the United States, not the United People. The States must all have equal authority to choose the President. The only way to do that is a system like the Electoral College. One person, one vote makes the States with large populations bullies, in that they can force their views on everyone else. It is not a difficult concept. Taxation with representation requires a system like the Electoral College.

Semper Fi

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

Those legislatures were elected and therefore do represent their constituents. Republican theory is that if the electorate doesn't like what they do, they can vote them out.

ImLogicallyRight

How about the one person one vote concept that is the foundation of a democracy?

We are a Republic.

DogLover99

The problem is, California and many other states registers people to vote when they either apply for or renew their drivers license. Illegals now are getting state ID's and drivers licenses. Now what?

GmanTerry

That's easy, the Democrats win and totally take over the Executive branch for several generations. That's the plan and it's right on schedule with Republican help.

Semper Fi