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Jul 24, 2019 19:12:48   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
He needs destroying, he needs to be stomped out like the Cock-roach that he is. YOU alt-right radical fascist cons are useful tools for the people pulling your puppet strings. YOU support a treasonous traitor, Trump the pussy-grabber who objectifies women, he shows no respect for them, he only patronizes the pretty ones so gimme a break here. Sleazy and crooked lawyers are more people in bed with Trump aside from the usually paid escorts, ha.

Damn straight on the Emoluments Clause, the Teflon man escaped that too. And yes to the 1st and 25th amendments.

Trump is the one who has caused this expense, with all his corrupt dealings and obstruction, you can go thank him. You people are he Kings of investigations, should we track you since Bill? Quite the tab on all of them since then and lets's not forget present-day Obama and Hillary again and again and again.

Tht legal opinion is far better than anything you got.
He needs destroying, he needs to be stomped out li... (show quote)
"Alt-right radical fascist cons"???? Holy shit! Psycho-therapy and anger management ain't gonna help you.

Three years and one month, where's the indictment? Mueller's appearance today put the hammer to any impeachment proceedings, so who ya gonna call now? Friggin whackos.

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Jul 24, 2019 19:14:45   #
Cuda2020
 
EmilyD wrote:
Interesting that this same professor called today's hearing a disaster for the Democrats...

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-critic-laurence-tribe-slams-mueller-testimony-the-hearing-was-a-disaster


I would have liked to have read the article put that was about the most obnoxious ADD pop up crazed site I've ever had the total displeasure of being on, so F that.

Mueller is not a spotlight performer like Trump, he also tells the truth, it's what he says that has weight. Clearly Mueller a republican is in his own private tightrope and conundrum, trying to balance everything involved. He was still all about what NOT to say.

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Jul 24, 2019 19:18:46   #
Cuda2020
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
"Alt-right radical fascist cons"???? Holy shit! Psycho-therapy and anger management ain't gonna help you.

Three years and one month, where's the indictment? Mueller's appearance today put the hammer to any impeachment proceedings, so who ya gonna call now? Friggin whackos.


Hey Joe I'm responding right back what you're flinging.

Where's the indictment, are you kidding me, read my post, read what happened today! Geez ASK Barr!!! Krykies mate...

snipit:Former OLC head Walter Dellinger has authoritatively canvassed the complex history of the Justice Department’s wavering views on the indictment of a sitting president and analyzed the arguments underlying the relevant OLC memos and executive-branch submissions to the Supreme Court. He concludes that “putting a president on trial would be inconsistent with the Article II responsibilities of the modern presidency,” although indicting the president and postponing the trial might not be. I will shortly discuss the postponement option, but what is essential now is to focus on one conspicuous fact about the OLC memos and Justice Department briefs: They simply don’t address the situation that appears to be unfolding in the United States at the moment.

There is mounting reason to ask whether the president and his associates sought to secure his election by conspiring with foreign adversaries and domestic accomplices to defraud the American people. Yet the memos in question would shield him from being held accountable precisely because he won that office. There is a maddeningly circular, bootstrap quality to arguing that even a crime committed to put somebody into a privileged position can’t be pursued because, well, it helped put him into that position of privilege.

It is the OLC that has declared the President "cannot be indicted", they work under Barr, who works under the president...are you getting it yet good man? Now even the Supreme Court goes by majority rule of the GOP. You guys are really working it, for that one party oligarch government.

You wackos are so dense, you'll wake up one morning to a new army from your own party marching over your heads, your mouth gaped open saying WTF???

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Jul 24, 2019 19:38:27   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Hey Joe I'm responding right back what you're flinging.

Where's the indictment, are you kidding me, read my post, read what happened today! Geez ASK Barr!!! Krykies mate...

snipit:Former OLC head Walter Dellinger has authoritatively canvassed the complex history of the Justice Department’s wavering views on the indictment of a sitting president and analyzed the arguments underlying the relevant OLC memos and executive-branch submissions to the Supreme Court. He concludes that “putting a president on trial would be inconsistent with the Article II responsibilities of the modern presidency,” although indicting the president and postponing the trial might not be. I will shortly discuss the postponement option, but what is essential now is to focus on one conspicuous fact about the OLC memos and Justice Department briefs: They simply don’t address the situation that appears to be unfolding in the United States at the moment.

There is mounting reason to ask whether the president and his associates sought to secure his election by conspiring with foreign adversaries and domestic accomplices to defraud the American people. Yet the memos in question would shield him from being held accountable precisely because he won that office. There is a maddeningly circular, bootstrap quality to arguing that even a crime committed to put somebody into a privileged position can’t be pursued because, well, it helped put him into that position of privilege.

It is the OLC that has declared the President "cannot be indicted", they work under Barr, who works under the president...are you getting it yet good man? Now even the Supreme Court goes by majority rule of the GOP. You guys are really working it, for that one party oligarch government.

You wackos are so dense, you'll wake up one morning to a new army from your own party marching over your heads, saying WTF???
Hey Joe I'm responding right back what you're flin... (show quote)
On three different occasions, Robert Mueller told AG Barr that the OLC rulings regarding indicting a sitting president had no bearing on his investigation. The OLC ruling was never mentioned once in the Mueller Report. Mueller was not the lead investigator, he was just a figurehead, he was not the author of the report with his name on it. Mueller's appearance today pretty much puts an end to any possibility that we will ever see an indictment, and it definitely put the hammer to impeachment.

And, it wasn't Trump who colluded with foreign actors to influence the election. Either WTFU or STFU.

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Jul 24, 2019 20:27:03   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
You guys always have your hat out. You want a tip, vote Democratic for truth, justice, and the American way!


I'm the guy putting money INTO the hat, lady!!

The American way?

Letting MEN in the bathroom with my daughter/grandaughter ain't American, it's sick!

Letting ANYONE who wants to come here, come here isn't American, it's stupid!

Cancelling my insurance, and raising my taxes to pay for border crossers, and do nothings isn't American, it's theft!

Sorry Ma'am, but I refuse to become your slave!

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Jul 24, 2019 23:16:30   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Hey Joe I'm responding right back what you're flinging.

Where's the indictment, are you kidding me, read my post, read what happened today! Geez ASK Barr!!! Krykies mate...

snipit:Former OLC head Walter Dellinger has authoritatively canvassed the complex history of the Justice Department’s wavering views on the indictment of a sitting president and analyzed the arguments underlying the relevant OLC memos and executive-branch submissions to the Supreme Court. He concludes that “putting a president on trial would be inconsistent with the Article II responsibilities of the modern presidency,” although indicting the president and postponing the trial might not be. I will shortly discuss the postponement option, but what is essential now is to focus on one conspicuous fact about the OLC memos and Justice Department briefs: They simply don’t address the situation that appears to be unfolding in the United States at the moment.

There is mounting reason to ask whether the president and his associates sought to secure his election by conspiring with foreign adversaries and domestic accomplices to defraud the American people. Yet the memos in question would shield him from being held accountable precisely because he won that office. There is a maddeningly circular, bootstrap quality to arguing that even a crime committed to put somebody into a privileged position can’t be pursued because, well, it helped put him into that position of privilege.

It is the OLC that has declared the President "cannot be indicted", they work under Barr, who works under the president...are you getting it yet good man? Now even the Supreme Court goes by majority rule of the GOP. You guys are really working it, for that one party oligarch government.

You wackos are so dense, you'll wake up one morning to a new army from your own party marching over your heads, your mouth gaped open saying WTF???
Hey Joe I'm responding right back what you're flin... (show quote)


Which show were you watching? Did you get Judge Judy and think it was Mueller?

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Jul 25, 2019 07:23:53   #
fullspinzoo
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
For three years and one month, YOU (the progressive socialist democrats) have been trying to destroy president Trump, his family, his friends, his associates, and his administration. YOU have tried to indict him, impeach him, criminalize him, imprison him. YOU have launched a covert espionage campaign to bury the man, YOU have weaponized government LE and Intel agencies to use against him. YOU have manufactured evidence and lied to the FISA Court to nail him. YOU have marched out a parade of porn stars and victimized women with sleazy lawyers to slander him. YOU have invoked the Logan Act, the Emoluments clause, the 25th Amendment, the 1st Amendment, and YOU have spent $35 million conducting an investigation led by rabid anti-Trump Hillary supporters in your attempt to destroy him and disenfranchise 63 million American voters.

And, we're supposed to accept this "legal" opinion as the straw that breaks the camel's back? GFY.
For three years and one month, YOU (the progressiv... (show quote)


Spot on, Blade. Love the last part and I second that. New guy has no clue.

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Jul 25, 2019 08:59:57   #
son of witless
 
Lonewolf wrote:
so in your eyes, a memo trumps the constitution sounds right for the right nationalist party


During Obama's reign of horror Leftists did everything to destroy the US Constitution. Only now do Leftists cite the Constitution. It is like Atheists quoting the Bible.

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Jul 25, 2019 11:29:48   #
MR Mister Loc: Washington DC
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Try and have some relevance to my topic. I think we should begin thanking you cons on the right for selling out our country


Obviously, you have been indoctrinated into thinking wrong. Now, I advise you to get a copy of the Constitution and read it a few times and then go look in a mirror and ask yourself how can I be so stupid.

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Jul 25, 2019 11:31:34   #
fullspinzoo
 
MR Mister wrote:
Obviously, you have been indoctrinated into thinking wrong. Now, I advise you to get a copy of the Constitution and read it a few times and then go look in a mirror and ask yourself how can I be so stupid.


Good idea. I hope it works.

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Jul 25, 2019 12:22:39   #
F.D.R.
 
Sounds like Obama should be worried.

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Jul 25, 2019 15:50:52   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
MR Mister wrote:
Obviously, you have been indoctrinated into thinking wrong. Now, I advise you to get a copy of the Constitution and read it a few times and then go look in a mirror and ask yourself how can I be so stupid.


He will get to the Constitution just as soon as he figures out what mystery virus that the evil white man inflicted upon the noble American Indian causing over 90% of them to die. That has been a tough one.

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Jul 25, 2019 18:02:44   #
EmilyD
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
I would have liked to have read the article put that was about the most obnoxious ADD pop up crazed site I've ever had the total displeasure of being on, so F that.

Mueller is not a spotlight performer like Trump, he also tells the truth, it's what he says that has weight. Clearly Mueller a republican is in his own private tightrope and conundrum, trying to balance everything involved. He was still all about what NOT to say.


Do you really believe he knows nothing about the Fusion GPS debacle? Really? Because he said he "wasn't familiar" with it under oath. Last time I checked, lying under oath was perjury.

Here is a copy of Laurence Tribe's Tweet:
Laurence Tribe

@tribelaw

Much as I hate to say it, this morning’s hearing was a disaster. Far from breathing life into his damning report, the tired Robert Mueller sucked the life out of it. The effort to save democracy and the rule of law from this lawless president has been set back, not advanced.
9,391
12:30 PM - Jul 24, 2019

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Jul 25, 2019 20:06:56   #
Hadenough
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
By Laurence H. Tribe is the Carl M. Loeb University Professor and Professor of Constitutional Law at Harvard University. He is an accomplished Supreme Court advocate, holder of eleven honorary degrees, and the author, most recently, of “To End a Presidency: The Power of Impeachment” (co-authored with Joshua Matz).

~Snipit, read full article:http://www.lawfareblog.com/yes-constitution-allows-indictment-president

Former OLC head Walter Dellinger has authoritatively canvassed the complex history of the Justice Department’s wavering views on the indictment of a sitting president and analyzed the arguments underlying the relevant OLC memos and executive-branch submissions to the Supreme Court. He concludes that “putting a president on trial would be inconsistent with the Article II responsibilities of the modern presidency,” although indicting the president and postponing the trial might not be.

I will shortly discuss the postponement option, but what is essential now is to focus on one conspicuous fact about the OLC memos and Justice Department briefs: They simply don’t address the situation that appears to be unfolding in the United States at the moment. There is mounting reason to ask whether the president and his associates sought to secure his election by conspiring with foreign adversaries and domestic accomplices to defraud the American people. Yet the memos in question would shield him from being held accountable precisely because he won that office. There is a maddeningly circular, bootstrap quality to arguing that even a crime committed to put somebody into a privileged position can’t be pursued because, well, it helped put him into that position of privilege.

In closing: Thus, even if trial and sentencing are to be delayed, there is a compelling case for indicting such a president in plain view and offering him a choice. If he wishes, he could be publicly tried and invoke Section 3 of the 25th Amendment if he is ready to certify that the burdens of criminal trial prevent him from “discharg[ing] the powers and duties of his office” so that those powers and duties devolve on the vice president for the duration of the trial.

Or his trial could be deferred if he expressly agrees, as a binding condition of such postponement, that he will not invoke the statute of limitations or accept a pardon to avoid trial and possible conviction once he is no longer in office. This seems to me the very least that the American legal system should ensure whenever the crime with which the president is charged goes to the very legitimacy of his role as leader of the government and head of state.

Should the president been indicted long ago?
By Laurence H. Tribe is the Carl M. Loeb Universit... (show quote)


I guess you could say this also applies to past Presidents. Lets wait and see what happens after all the investigations are complete and the rest of obummers and Clinton moles are removed from the FBI, DOJ and any other agency. There are plenty of canaries waiting to sing their songs. Right now they are fearful of death by natural causes, like suicide with two bullets to the back of the head or fatal accidents.

MAGA
God Bless the USA and President Trump

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Jul 25, 2019 20:59:16   #
Carol Kelly
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Since when did you care about the constitution as written and intended by our founding fathers. You you only care what some liberal says it means.


Just ignore him. He’s not worth it.

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