Carol Kelly

Spot on! Way to go, Seth.

JediKnight

That wasn't my point. My point was to point out that we give aide too many countries, and even though we do, sometimes they don't return any favors. When we wanted to bomb certain places in the Middle East, it was necessary for our bombers to fly over Egypt. We have given them millions in aide since WWII and they wouldn't let us fly over. We have sometimes had to cancel and re-write battle plans and training missions because sometimes certain "allies" disagree with what we're doing - but still take our money. You may want to research Reagan's Iran-Contra scandal for an answer to your question. We often will actually put leaders in power in a foreign country -as long as they're doing what we want, only to have them later turn on us. Sometimes the relationship is broken, often times it is not. Did you know we were responsible for Sadaam Hussein coming into power? You know how that turned out.

JediKnight

Trump's grandfather was ran out of Germany for refusing to join the military -at least now we know why Trump's dad paid for Trump to get 5 deferments from our military. Melania came here on a student visa and went to work as a paid model -which is illegal. Trump brought Melania's parents here through "chain migration" a form of immigration that Trump is fighting hard to end. Trump and corrupt republicans want to end the DREAM act only because Obama started it. Those young people have no criminal records, come here and learn English, go to school and learn to be productive tax paying citizens. Why would Trump lump them in with those who try to get in illegally? Can you say "racist hypocrite?"

Cuda2020

Yes and she didn’t have any pull at all. Please tell us what were he extraordinary qualifications as a nude model ? Was it who she did?

Seth

Much of the aid we bestow upon third world countries has to do with factors like geopolitics vs the strategic locations of those countries as a way to avoid potential enemies such as Russia or China from doing what we are arguably doing, which is "getting in" before one of those others fills the vacuum first, more or less along those lines.

This was considered infinitely more pressing an issue during the Cold War -- when Reagan involved us in Central America, for example, he was resisting the establishment of a permanent Communist regime in our hemisphere, Cuba was enough.

Iran had declared itself our enemy in no uncertain terms, so we built up their immediate enemy, Iraq (the enemy of our enemy was our friend? 🐮 Go figure).

I won't excuse the results of much of our past foreign "largesse" or other overseas "adventures" other than to say that in most cases, they are initiated as a given administration's response to a situation or political reality existing at the time.

The realities often change somewhat later in ways that come back to bite us in the butt while they "made sense" at the time, and then the hindsight recriminations begin. Unfortunately, this is a fact of life that will never likely change.

Seth

That question demonstrates that you didn't actually read Pennylynn"s post, you simply skimmed over it with another senseless and biased "question" already locked & loaded.

Singularity

(trigger warning:
non serious ramblings....)



If,

"....everyone that applies for a visa is approved?"

And,

"In that year only five (5) people from her nation was approved?"

Why make this sound prestigious?

Does it not follow that only five people in the entire country applied for visas during that year?

And with that small a group they bother to separate some of them into a special important smart person only sounding category?

Couldn't they just call them the Melania visa, and call the other four by the corresponding applicants name?

Or just number them 1 thru 5. You can claim to be number 1! Or spin a 5 as the fifth level of excellence, with 2 and 4 being runner ups, not too bad. The 3 can virtue signal claiming to be "just regular folks, nothing special..."

Nickolai

She is nor anti semite she is anti Zionist and so am I

Nickolai

And I feel the same toward super white nationalist's blind lemming like followers of their demagogue who rules and his power by peddling fear and hatred

JediKnight

I actually found Seth's comments to be weak, immaterial, and irrelevant. He slams the democrats for "not doing their job" - not understanding that the dems have sent over 590 bills to the Senate since Trump took office, and Turtleneck McConnell refuses to allow a vote. Currently, our Congress is not doing what they should be....and its not because of the democrats.

JediKnight

So, in hindsight, are you now agreeing that we do often give aide to many foreign countries? Perhaps with this understanding you can now see why Obama approved giving back Iran their own money that we had earlier confiscated when they first tried to go nuclear (?) Contrary to what Trump is saying, the nuclear deal with Iran made by Obama and the returning of Iranian millions was in fact working -until Trump came along and backed us out of the deal at Putin's request. When the blinders are finally removed I believe a lot of the current loyal Trump fans will come back to their senses.....hopefully.

Singularity

Thank you. I have been trying for a succinct way to put that.

They hate when I post memes but complain when I compose a post of more than three simple sentences.....

CounterRevolutionary

President Trump insisted that the SOCIALIST congresswomen (two white, two brown) leave the USA and fix their parents' failing homelands first.

I guarantee you that the parents of these spoiled brat congresswomen are greatly dismayed with their children's socialist advocacy of the very tyranny the parents fled.

To: congresswomen, Alexandrea Orcasio Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, and Ayanna Pressley, "The Squad":
You are pathetically ignorant of YOUR American history.
Have you read:

The Declaration of Independence declaring all people equal in the eyes of our Lord

The Constitution ending indentured servant serfdom by creating a national bankruptcy court?

The 1787 Northwest Ordinance penned by Thomas Jefferson that abolished all Black's slavery in all new territory settlements west of the Ohio River, mandating adherence to all Indian treaties and land reservations, and granting "equal footing" ownership of new states to all lands within their borders, this NW Ordinance signed into law by President Washington in 1787 and attached to the Constitution?

Congress ending all slave trade in 1808 against the wishes of the southern plantations which were still allied to the British Crown's textile industry?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Act_Prohibiting_Importation_of_Slaves
The Act Prohibiting Importation of Slaves of 1807 (2 Stat. 426, enacted March 2, 1807) is a United States federal law that stated that no new slaves were permitted to be imported into the United States. It took effect in 1808, the earliest date permitted by the United States Constitution. This legislation was promoted by President Thomas Jefferson, who called for its enactment in his 1806 State of the Union Address. He had promoted the idea since the 1770s. It reflected the force of the general trend toward abolishing the international slave trade which Virginia, followed by all the other states, had prohibited or restricted since then. South Carolina, however, had reopened its trade. Congress first regulated against the trade in the Slave Trade Act of 1794. The 1807 Act ended the legality of trade with the U.S. from abroad.

The founding fathers, whom at death, freed all their slaves that were inherited?

Abe Lincoln's Emancipation Act freeing all slaves even prior the Northern Union's victory in the American Civil War?

Abe Lincoln's reparations to the freed slaves after the Civil War, granting each man 120 acres and a mule, (worth millions of dollars in land and a tractor today)?

Abe Lincoln's welfare-to-work Homestead Act, free land to all settlers who would work the land in the western territories?

Abe Lincoln's development of the western lands needed to create new growth and wealth in the economy, printing "greenback dollars" to pay off our national debt instead of socialist "redistribution of the wealth."

Has the "Squad" ever read ALL OF KARL MARX's racist writings?

Marx's Gotha Report consultations to the German National Socialist Workers Party platform, (NAZIs) the German communists asking how to pitch socialism to technically obsolete and non-productive people? Oh, just pitch them: "Each according to his ability, each according to his needs"? [[no ability, not needed, we euthanize you]]

Marx's newspaper: "The Rhenish Gazette's" tirades to annihilate Negroes, Gypsies, and Jews?

Marx's atrocious racist letters amongst his friends and colleagues?

Marx's atheist allegiance to the Confederacy and Charles Darwin's new book:
"On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life"?

Perhaps the Democrat's Leftwing congressional Goon Squad could waltz across the street to the Kirby Center School run by Hillsdale College for a free education in American history?

Never have we seen such willful and woeful ignorance of our congressmen in our country's history. The oppressed become the oppressors, the making of their own misery as they lay down the red carpet for the rise of the 4th Reich.

CounterRevolutionary

Any socialist "centralized planner" who pretends to love us all and will take care of us all under the Government Umbrella of Big Brother is a liar. Beware.

"Trust me, just hand over all your paycheck, all your property, all your weapons, and submit to my expertise, I will protect you with free socialized medicine, free education, free shelter and clothing, free food, guaranteed work, just follow my commands, I LOOOOOVE YOU."

At what point do you become suspicious?

Are we to believe that brown people, black people, yellow people, red people, sky-blue-pink people will be less arrogant, less power freaks, less greedy, and less sadistic than white people?

We need a reality check, please.

Did you know earth has already lost 1/3rd its magnetic field shielding us from mutating cosmic rays as the temperature steadily DROPS? Yes, little children, your International Panel on Climate Change is lying to you.

Just wait until God turns us all into One-eyed, one-horned, flying purple people eaters and all the sunscreen in the world ain't gonna help anybody.

Singularity

Sounds familiar.

"Each according to his ability, each according to his needs"

"And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need."

"Come unto me, all ye that labor, and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me, for I am meek and lowly in heart and you shall find rest unto your souls, for my yoke is easy and my burden is light."

"Present yourself as a living sacrifice , your just and reasonable service."

But, nowhere in the Bible does Jesus actually say he loves you.

isn't Jesus supposed to be a Big Brother of sorts under the tyranny of the Father God, aided by the Holy Spiritual Comforter propaganda/thought control agent?