Blacksheep

If that's true then please explain all the cases in which pit bulls have been raised in normal homes and like any other well-treated pet, and then killed one of the children, just snapped, out of the blue.

The temperament is built into the brains of these mutts and anyone who would keep pit bulls when they have small children is just plain stupid and uncaring of their family. ***WHY*** have a dog breed with a strong, well established history of killing small children??? There are so many other breeds that make wonderful pets, what the hell would anyone want a pit bull for? That's just plain bullheadedness and nothing less.

The only good part of that I can see is that at least those stupid pit bull owners are keeping their DNA from being passed on, by feeding their kids to their dogs, because that's exactly how it works out.

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

looks like a Weimaraner wth an undocked tail. Even has the same yellow eyes.. Where did the breed originate? What are they used for, except as pets, looks like it is probably a sporting breed. There are several "blue labradors" I have seen in the obedience ring that I always thought were undocked Wyms, but could also be Lacy dogs, same type. They are always listed with a PAL number (purebred, alternate registry) so pedigrees would be hard to track. Mix breeds and PAL dogs are now shown in obedience and rally as long as they are spayed or neutered. I am really curious about the Lacy now, looks like a handsome dog.

bahmer

You can look it up on the internet as it appears there are a number of different breeds that are bread into this dog including wolf so they say. Here are some of the jobs that they are good at.
Jobs for Lacy Dogs

Lacys were created to be a working dog in the Texas Hill Country. Originally bred to work feral hogs and range cattle, they are gritty and tough with endless energy. The Lacy's compact, lithe build makes it agile and fast, allowing them to work in dense brush and ellude dangerous quarry. These are real dogs for real jobs, not pets.

Some of the jobs Lacy Dogs excel at today include:

Hog Hunting - Strike and bay dogs with short to medium range and plenty of grit
Herding - Heading dogs that are tough enough for ornery cattle
Blood Trailing - Popular among Texas trophy hunters for recovering wounded game
Running Trap Lines - Efficient at tracking and baying varmints in drag traps
And More - Treeing squirrels, retrieving birds, flyball, agility and any job that is challenging both mentally and physically

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

[quote=bahmer]You can look it up on the internet as it appears there are a number of different breeds that are bread into this dog including wolf so they say. Here are some of the jobs that they are good at.
Jobs for Lacy Dogs

Lacys were created to be a working dog in the Texas Hill Country. Originally bred to work feral hogs and range cattle, they are gritty and tough with endless energy. The Lacy's compact, lithe build makes it agile and fast, allowing them to work in dense brush and ellude dangerous quarry. These are real dogs for real jobs, not pets.

The uses of the breed are similar to the uses of the Airedale, which is also used in England for police work, and during WWII as dogs of war, for search and rescue work. I have to assume that Lacys due to the work they were bred to do, require strong ownership. and plenty of exercise and are not for the feint of heart. Airedales are also used for hunting wild boar.

bahmer

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Here is some history.
The Lacy dog was named after the Lacy brothers (Frank, George, Ewin, and Harry Lacy) who moved from Kentucky to Texas in 1858, settling in Burnet County, Texas.[2] The dog, according to the Lacy family, was a mixture of English Shepherd (or perhaps coyote), greyhound, and wolf.[10] Texas House Concurrent Resolution No. 108 also mentions scenthound.[2] The brothers originally developed the dogs' natural herding instincts to work the family's free-roaming hogs.[11]
On March 15, 2005, in the 79th Legislature of the State of Texas, Representative Joaquin Castro and members of the Texas Lacy Game Dog Association filed House Concurrent Resolution No. 108, proposing the blue Lacy as state dog of Texas. This legislation was proposed to recognize the original breeders and their contribution to the State of Texas as well as to honor the Lacy as a Texas original. House Concurrent Resolution No. 108 was adopted by the Texas House of Representatives on May 15, 2005, and by the Senate ten days later on May 25, 2005. Governor Rick Perry signed the legislation adopting the Lacy as "the official State Dog Breed of Texas" on June 18, 2005.[2]

cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob

It's not a great miss... I gave to the show early on in the rescue when they were in California. Now I see the family sporting new tattoos and crazy hairstyles. Even some heroin use and so I personally won't be giving any more of my resources to them . ASPCA is a better fit for me. Don't worry about catching a view. Kind of like looking for Bigfoot.
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JONDO

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

The ASPCA is certainly a better choice than HSUS and its sister organization PETA which is considered a terrorist organization in many countries. I personally donate to the National Animal Interest Alliance which is a group whose purpose is to create just laws for the care and maintenance of animals with out the concept of PETA "a rat's life is as valuable as a humans beings" there for do no research on any animal, use humans instead. They are fine with abortion though. The National Animal Interest Alliance has been helpful in combating laws that would make everything from poultry production to private breeding dog kennels illegal .

ginger

I use to work with a friend training dogs. Took about two hours to train the dog, about two weeks for the owner.

Blacksheep

Yeah, blame the owners, save the pit bulls, so they can savage more babies and old people. Good thinking, hope you don't live near me.

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

Some owners take months to train, some never get trained at all. they let the dog boss them around.

I have a friend with a dog she is working in Rally where the handler and dog follow signs and do what the sign tells them to do. The dog is better at reading the signs than the owner is and glares at the owner when she turns the wrong way. Still gotta train that owner too!

buddy42 Loc: Bonita Springs, Fl

So I guess your comment to take all Pit Bulls and shake them by their neck until dead is the normal thing to say to all Pit owners and it's not vitriol. I have had a Pit Bull as a pet since 2005 and she is the best pet I have ever had.
Are you a Pit owner and what qualifies you to say kill them all? Had you stated to kill all the unresponsible owners, there would not have been a reply from me.
Brian's comment to quarantine all Pit Bulls to Greenland is the same thing. So take your opinion of me and about $2.00 and you can buy a cup of coffee somewhere.
(In my opinion, most young blacks are prone to quick violence. I think their record on people is quite a bit worse than Pit Bulls. Would your recommendation be the same for them?)

cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob

Thanks for the update.... my roommate gave to PETA . What a sham.... won't do that again.... terrorists in my book.

cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob

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Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

The link I provided shows the variations in the breed, along with the history and current working habits. Were you unable to get to the page, or do you simply want me to copy the data onto this site?