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Jul 1, 2019 17:12:48   #
kemmer
 
Rose42 wrote:
Wants do not translate into truth.

You should take a lesson from that.

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Jul 1, 2019 17:58:31   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
If I were to ever post garbage, kemmer. I would most definitely do so.

Much of what I write originates with me, and I do not at present have such a link because it would be self-promotion to link to an existing website of my own, thank you for asking.

Whenever necessary or possible, I link to one, two or more sites.

Without cutting and pasting, few postings over the length of more than a sentence or two would ever materialize on any forum.


kemmer wrote:
Why don’t you just post a link to this garbage instead of cutting and pasting?

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Jul 1, 2019 18:04:55   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
That is a spectacular oxymoron, kemmer.

Do you factually know of people who are simultaneously gay and unhappy?


kemmer wrote:
One can be induced to perform as a straight, but one remains gay—and unhappy.

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Jul 1, 2019 19:34:38   #
kemmer
 
Zemirah wrote:
That is a spectacular oxymoron, kemmer.

Do you factually know of people who are simultaneously gay and unhappy?

My high school best friend married after H.S., had 2 kids, owned his own business and taught Sunday school. He couldn’t live the lie anymore at age 43 and told his pastor. He was thrown out of his church (Pentecostal), and the divorce judge left him with his car and clothes. Period. He committed suicide. I spread his ashes in the surf below my beach house with my own hands.

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Jul 1, 2019 20:55:10   #
Ricktloml
 
Zemirah wrote:
Counteracting the godless pro-homosexuality propaganda now being shamelessly peddled upon children as young as kindergarten age is not "practicing medicine," Kevyn.

It is allowing them to grow to adulthood as the person they were born to be.

The Nazi tactics used by militant homosexuals against the American Psychiatric Association is well known, and has been often explained throughout the years, as below:

https://www.charismanews.com/opinion/in-the-line-of-fire/40860-the-gay-bullies-strike-again

"Bullying and intimidation have been standard operating procedures for many gay activists for more than 60 years. Why should they change their approach now?

In the early 1970s, gay activists became famous for their “zaps,” which were strategically timed, carefully staged hit-and-run protests meant to humiliate and intimidate their opponents. According to gay historian David Eisenbach, zaps were used successfully by gay activists to push TV executives to portray homosexuality sympathetically and positively: “TV executives discovered they could avoid zaps and bad publicity by having gay activists review scripts that dealt with homosexuality before they were aired."

In other words, "Write the scripts the way we like it, or incur our wrath."

Zaps were also used to disrupt meetings of the American Psychiatric Association (APA) in protest of the its classification of homosexuality as a mental disorder. The Rainbow History Project, which celebrates gay pressure tactics, posted a report entitled “Zapping the Shrinks” (originally published May 3, 1971), boasting about the “disruption by gay activists at the [APA’s] 1970 convention in San Francisco.”

At this convention, activists carried out a special “zap” during a high point of the conference. The activists burst into the conference hall and pushed their way past a number of elderly psychiatrists who tried to stop them. And there was no mistaking who the intruders were. The report says, “Half of the men were in really fabulous drag with wildly painted faces, that accentuated the spontaneous, liberating attitude of brothers in drag.”

This is some of the background leading up to the APA’s momentous decision to depathologize homosexuality in 1973, which means this was hardly a matter of dispassionate scientific debate—as even the gay activist scientist Simon LeVay noted in his book Queer Science: “Gay activism was clearly the force that propelled the APA to declassify homosexuality.”

Terrorist tactics, in other words, Kevyn, both then and now, for without the truth on their side, that's all they have had and that is all they will ever have!
Counteracting the godless pro-homosexuality propag... (show quote)



You are exactly right. In 1973 when psychiatrists removed homosexuality from their diagnostic manual they admitted there was NO scientific or medical reason to remove it. It was done because of intense political pressure and because militant homosexuals were picketing the psychiatrist's homes and threatening their families. Since those successes the homosexual agenda has now moved to openly groom children into the deviate lifestyle, and harass anyone who tries to stand in their way.

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Jul 1, 2019 21:15:54   #
kemmer
 
Ricktloml wrote:
You are exactly right. In 1973 when psychiatrists removed homosexuality from their diagnostic manual they admitted there was NO scientific or medical reason to remove it. It was done because of intense political pressure and because militant homosexuals were picketing the psychiatrist's homes and threatening their families. Since those successes the homosexual agenda has now moved to openly groom children into the deviate lifestyle, and harass anyone who tries to stand in their way.

...said the sick, bigoted one who wants millions of American citizens to disappear or die.

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Jul 1, 2019 21:25:37   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
Thank you, Rick,

The twenty, thirty, even forty year olds, can't remember this period, and few seem to research it. Perhaps, because they've been taught an altered, revisionism brand of "homosexual history in America" in their public schools.

I was back in school, after marriage, children, PTA and Cub Scouts, during the mid 70's, completing a double major in Accounting and Business Management, and I remember when, in the space of one year, the teaching on homosexuality in Psychology class went from an "Abnormality," to just an alternate lifestyle... "nothing to see here."

There is no way a company like Target would have allowed grown perverted men to enter bathrooms with women and children, as advertised policy, without being run out of business, and probably out of town at that time.

Men understood it was their responsibility to protect their families, and from what they should protect them.


Ricktloml wrote:
You are exactly right. In 1973 when psychiatrists removed homosexuality from their diagnostic manual they admitted there was NO scientific or medical reason to remove it. It was done because of intense political pressure and because militant homosexuals were picketing the psychiatrist's homes and threatening their families. Since those successes the homosexual agenda has now moved to openly groom children into the deviate lifestyle, and harass anyone who tries to stand in their way.

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Jul 3, 2019 10:30:39   #
Ricktloml
 
Zemirah wrote:
Thank you, Rick,

The twenty, thirty, even forty year olds, can't remember this period, and few seem to research it. Perhaps, because they've been taught an altered, revisionism brand of "homosexual history in America" in their public schools.

I was back in school, after marriage, children, PTA and Cub Scouts, during the mid 70's, completing a double major in Accounting and Business Management, and I remember when, in the space of one year, the teaching on homosexuality in Psychology class went from an "Abnormality," to just an alternate lifestyle... "nothing to see here."

There is no way a company like Target would have allowed grown perverted men to enter bathrooms with women and children, as advertised policy, without being run out of business, and probably out of town at that time.

Men understood it was their responsibility to protect their families, and from what they should protect them.
Thank you, Rick, br br The twenty, thirty, even f... (show quote)



Exactly. Adult men who had sex with 13-16 year old boys were called child molesters, now the homosexual agenda calls them "mentors". Children have always been the ultimate target

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Jul 6, 2019 01:21:50   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
Kevyn wrote:
Medical professionals including shrinks are regulated in the interest of public health. Uneducated people can not practice medicine nor can a doctor apply quackery without risking loosing their license and even prosecution. So called conversion therapy has been determined to be very damaging and homosexuality is no longer considered a psychological disorder. 70 years ago a doctor might have encouraged smoking as a treatment for asthmatics now that it is understood to be a health risk this is not allowed. Conversion therapy is no more protected free speech than a doctor prescribing an underweight toddler a beer diet to put on a few pounds.
Medical professionals including shrinks are regula... (show quote)


I went to school with a girl who was under weight and her doctor "prescribed" a beer per day. She gained weight.
If conversion therapy is not protected speech, then why would pro LGBT speech be protected.
This is just another liberal rant against anything decent.
Let me clear this up for you...I'll leave God out of it for once...a man and a woman...THAT'S what it takes to make a baby...to procreate...and THAT is what life is ALL about. Sex is for making babies, but we have turned it into a hobby. Our desire for sex is to ensure that we survive as a species, because we make babies and raise them and about the time they are grown, we get old and die.
I did some research and the actual count of our population that is LGBT may be...notice I said may be...less than 1%. No one really knows for sure what the number really is. An LGBT person would say the number is much higher. Whatever the number, the vast majority of people find the acts of the LGBT's disgusting. That's just the way it is. It may not bother us too much, but do we want to try it? Yuck no way.
If a person has desires for same sex sex, but doesn't like it, then they should be able to get counceling for that reason.

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Jul 6, 2019 01:25:21   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
kemmer wrote:
...said the sick, bigoted one who wants millions of American citizens to disappear or die.


kemmer, you need to read the thread about children being forced into the sex industry that's in this digest. It's easy to find.

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Jul 6, 2019 08:07:31   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
The homosexual percentage in the U.S., is at most, 2-1/2% to 3%, although they have always claimed it is many more, beginning with sexual pervert, Alfred Kinsey in the 1950s,who falsely claimed it was 10%.

Alfred Charles Kinsey was an American biologist, professor of entomology and zoology, and sexologist who in 1947 founded the Institute for Sex Research at Indiana University (previously known as the Kinsey Institute for Research in Sex, Gender, and Reproduction). He is best known for writing "Sexual Behavior in the Human Male" and "Sexual Behavior in the Human Female," also known as the Kinsey Reports, as well as the Kinsey scale. Kinsey's research on human sexuality has been proven false, and deliberately so, although for decades it was considered foundational to the field of sex.

Dr. Judith Reisman's courageous research since 1989, when her explosive book, Kinsey, Sex, and Fraud, came out, exploded diehard myths about the sadomasochist pervert who spawned the Playboy Philosophy and Fake Sex Science.

Throughout history, the major civilizations and religions condemned homosexuality.1 In the American colonies, homosexual acts were a capital offense. Until 1961 homosexual acts were illegal throughout America.

Gays claim that the “prevailing attitude toward homosexuals in the U.S. and many other countries is revulsion and hostility (which would be a normal reaction to perversion) for acts and desires not harmful to anyone.” The American Psychological Association and the American Public Health Association assured the U.S. Supreme Court in 1986 that “no significant data show that engaging in… oral and anal sex, results in mental or physical dysfunction.”

Homosexuals Die Young

Smokers and drug addicts don’t live as long as non-smokers or non-addicts, so we consider smoking and narcotics abuse harmful. The typical lifespan of homosexuals suggests that their activities are more destructive than smoking and about as dangerous as drugs.

In a pioneering study5, 6,737 obituaries from 18 U.S. homosexual journals during and after the height of the AIDS epidemic (13 years total) were compared to a large sample of obituaries from regular newspapers. The obituaries from the regular newspapers were similar to U.S. averages for longevity: the median age of death of married, never-divorced men was 75 and 80% of them died old (age 65 or older). For unmarried or divorced men, the median age of death was 57 and 32% of them died old. Married, never-divorced women averaged 79 at death; 85% died old. Unmarried and divorced women averaged age 71 and 60% of them died old.

The median age of death for homosexuals, however, was virtually the same nationwide — and, overall, about 2% survived to old age. If AIDS was the listed cause of death, the median age was 39. For the 829 gays who were listed as dying of something other than AIDS, the median age of death was 42 and 9% died old. The 163 lesbians had a median age of death of 44 and 20% died old.

Even when AIDS was apparently not involved, homosexuals frequently met an early demise. Three percent of gays died violently. They were 116 times more apt to be murdered (compared to national murder rates), much more apt to commit suicide, and had high traffic-accident death-rates. Heart attacks, cancer, and liver failure were exceptionally common. 18% of lesbians died of murder, suicide, or accidents — a rate 456 times higher than that of white females aged 25-44. Age distributions of samples of homosexuals in the scientific literature from 1858 to 1997 suggest a similarly shortened lifespan.

Follow-up studies of homosexual longevity have confirmed these general results. Comparison of gay obituaries who died of AIDS to official U.S. HIV/AIDS Surveillance data demonstrated very close agreement between the estimated median ages of death, as well as the 25th and 75th percentiles of the age-at-death distribution.6 Another study looked at multiple lines of evidence — including more recent U.S. obituaries and patterns of homosexual partnerships in Scandinavia — again finding that homosexual behavior was associated with a shortening of life of probably two decades.7

As Harvard Medical Professor, Dr. William Haseltine, noted in 1993, the “changes in sexual behavior that have been reported to have occurred in some groups have proved, for the most part, to be transient. For example, bath houses and sex clubs in many cities have either reopened or were never closed.”

http://www.familyresearchinst.org/2009/02/medical-consequences-of-what-homosexuals-do/
Kinsey: Crimes and Consequences the Red Queen and the Grand Scheme, by Judith A. Reisman


maximus wrote:
I went to school with a girl who was under weight and her doctor "prescribed" a beer per day. She gained weight.
If conversion therapy is not protected speech, then why would pro LGBT speech be protected.
This is just another liberal rant against anything decent.
Let me clear this up for you...I'll leave God out of it for once...a man and a woman...THAT'S what it takes to make a baby...to procreate...and THAT is what life is ALL about. Sex is for making babies, but we have turned it into a hobby. Our desire for sex is to ensure that we survive as a species, because we make babies and raise them and about the time they are grown, we get old and die.
I did some research and the actual count of our population that is LGBT may be...notice I said may be...less than 1%. No one really knows for sure what the number really is. An LGBT person would say the number is much higher. Whatever the number, the vast majority of people find the acts of the LGBT's disgusting. That's just the way it is. It may not bother us too much, but do we want to try it? Yuck no way.
If a person has desires for same sex sex, but doesn't like it, then they should be able to get counceling for that reason.
I went to school with a girl who was under weight ... (show quote)

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