Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Some people's dishonesty is getting out of control now, not that it wasn't out of control before.
When Trump say's, "I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.", obviously he means "I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by the FBI." according to some. While Trump has suggested he was joking, he has back peddled and suggested he wanted Russia to turn them over to the FBI, neither are really the case as is obvious to many.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfzVKTv1XvI (Wall Street Journal)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b71f2eYdTc (BBC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EZFBB-MntE (EuroNews)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1bck95XXu4 (Fox News)
Yeah, Trump Definitely DIDN'T say "I will tell you this, Russia: If you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing, I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.", did he? Obviously I was able to find no proof of that statement, as its evidenced by the four links I provided above.
And it would seem some appear to think that Putin wanted Hillary to win or had no preference and was solely trying to "sow chaos", which is a very valid assertion even though is isn't the whole truth. Yes, Putin wants to destroy confidence in our elections, this is true. Yes, Putin wants us to distrust election results and our elections process. Both of those will sow the seeds of chaos, distrust and animosity of opposing parties, But that is far from the whole story. Putin wanted trump to win for more than one reason and he even admitted to his preference, not to his direct and indirect actions to sway our 2016 elections, but merely admitted to his preference. Putin has a distrust and dislike for Hillary Clinton as SoS and that carries over to presidential candidate as her "agenda" would not change just because her title would have. Putin also wanted Trump to win for several reasons tied to Trump alone, I would list them here but I already know the response Trump supporters would have and I am not looking to listen to all that crying and denials.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/16/putin-trump-win-election-2016-722486https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ooeuJlU6UY (ITV)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDLudPA-Rdo (EWTN, Eternal Word Television Network, Catholic news channel, slogan: "The Global Catholic Network Live Truth. Live Catholic.")
Yes, obviously with all this evidence of Putin's own admissions, we have to assume that Putin wanted hillary to win as some fools like to think, right?
Some people's dishonesty is getting out of control... (
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I was watching the rally where he said it. He said, "the FBI would love to get them!", or was it "have them!"
Putin may have wanted what the white paper our intelligence agencies put out BEFORE the uproar. It stated that Russia was attempting to so discord by sending false and negative information about both the democratic and republican candidates. But if they had to choose just one, it would be smart to pick the one already involved with questionable deals like Uranium One, which they could use over her if she decided to quit playing ball. She could have done like Obama and made a show of being tough and imposing sanctions which hurt American companies but did nothing against Russia.
But IF Putin wanted a back door secret deal with a US president, would he publicly praise the candidate and act buddy buddy? It would make things easy for us to get the upper hand with our enemies if they were that clueless. But nothing points to Putin being that dumb. In fact he is often called sly. Sly people use subterfuge and misdirection, which Putin has been known to do. But suddenly the left trusts Putin is honest and straightforward?
I made an error when I tried to post a quote without checking. It wasn't the FBI Trump said Putin should turn Hillary's missing emails to, but the press. His exact words were,
“By the way, if they hacked, they probably have her 33,000 emails. I will tell you this: Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press. Let’s see if that happens."
The MSM said he was asking Putin to hack Hillary. But since Hillary already deleted the emails, and Comey said they couldn't be recovered, how would hacking her at that time get those emails? Only if they had previously hacked her server. So the MSM claim makes no sense even if you don't believe Trump was using parody or satire. So is it OBVIOUS to MANY that you can't hack a server and get emails off it that not only were deleted and bleach bitted, but which were currently in the hands of the FBI?
Putin has a mistrust and dislike for Hillary so much that he invited her and Bill to his home for dinner and an evening she and he said was a social visit. Do you generally have social visits with people you distrust and dislike? His dislike only came out during the campaign. Before that they were friendly. Did I say Putin was sly?