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Putin, an autocratic and brutal leader, shares the same views as many on the Right here: does that make you question your opinion?
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Jul 1, 2019 08:54:52   #
The Critical Critic Loc: Turtle Island
 
rumitoid wrote:
Thank you, CD. I hate all labels. It ends honest and open dialogue.

I agree. Which is why I never affixed a label to you.

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Jul 1, 2019 09:11:05   #
Rose42
 
The Critical Critic wrote:
Not killing voices, that’s a little dramatic of you. Killing an ideology, such as liberalism... no problem at all, it’s a disease.


I have to disagree with that. Classic liberalism is a good thing and we could use more of it. Modern liberalism which is made up of "progressives" is the disease.

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Jul 1, 2019 09:34:23   #
The Critical Critic Loc: Turtle Island
 
Rose42 wrote:
I have to disagree with that. Classic liberalism is a good thing and we could use more of it. Modern liberalism which is made up of "progressives" is the disease.

I agree. And the separation of the two was mentioned in my post to Rumi, in the 1955 speech to the Wausau, Wisconsin, Chamber of Commerce.

Classical liberalism was about limiting government. Today’s liberalism is all about big government, readily identifiable in the recent democratic debates.

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Jul 1, 2019 09:44:50   #
Rose42
 
The Critical Critic wrote:
I agree. And the separation of the two was mentioned in my post to Rumi, in the 1955 speech to the Wausau, Wisconsin, Chamber of Commerce.

Classical liberalism was about limiting government. Today’s liberalism is all about big government, readily identifiable in the recent democratic debates.


I'll have to go back and read that post. I glossed over it.

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Jul 1, 2019 10:52:59   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
The Critical Critic wrote:
Thank you.


Apologies... I thought when you said you didn't know how one could be left you were referring to Rumi... My bad..

I see how I should have read it...

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Jul 1, 2019 11:36:11   #
The Critical Critic Loc: Turtle Island
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Apologies... I thought when you said you didn't know how one could be left you were referring to Rumi... My bad..

I see how I should have read it...

Ohhh I see it now... I meant how he could have been “left curious” by my post. Perhaps my placement of the comma was in error?

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Jul 1, 2019 12:13:46   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Go Putin!

We really do need more national leaders who recognize liberalism for what it really is. Basically, liberal progressivism is a plague on the human race, a Trojan Horse with an inexplicable selection of gender identities and a confusing array of bizarre genitalia. Liberalism is a viral infection of the human spirit. Should be eradicated forthwith.


So you are fine with being lead by & for a conservative who is interested by only their personal gains!
A situation where only the few keep gaining wealth & more & more are left behind sucking on an empty tit.

I am liberal in my political beliefs. While living a very conservative life style.
I have played the game & have come out ahead.

I have been around & am smart enough to know a con man when I see one.
Trump is just a con man looking out for him self.
As long as there are those that show a blind eye & ear to him they will end up being losers.

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Jul 2, 2019 03:19:04   #
rumitoid
 
The Critical Critic wrote:
I agree. Which is why I never affixed a label to you.


I deeply appreciate that fact.

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Jul 2, 2019 03:20:43   #
rumitoid
 
The Critical Critic wrote:
I agree. And the separation of the two was mentioned in my post to Rumi, in the 1955 speech to the Wausau, Wisconsin, Chamber of Commerce.

Classical liberalism was about limiting government. Today’s liberalism is all about big government, readily identifiable in the recent democratic debates.


Great point! Terrible to admit, but I did not see that point.

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Jul 2, 2019 03:49:02   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
So you are fine with being lead by & for a conservative who is interested by only their personal gains!
A situation where only the few keep gaining wealth & more & more are left behind sucking on an empty tit.

I am liberal in my political beliefs. While living a very conservative life style.
I have played the game & have come out ahead.

I have been around & am smart enough to know a con man when I see one.
Trump is just a con man looking out for him self.
As long as there are those that show a blind eye & ear to him they will end up being losers.
So you are fine with being lead by & for a con... (show quote)
Trump sure as hell conned you.

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Jul 2, 2019 09:47:57   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Trump sure as hell conned you.


You don't know what you are talking about!
Just blindly hanging on to the Ponzi Scheme of economic life.
The plot to put the wealth into fewer & fewer hands.
You are a part of the plot or a victim of it.

If you are white you have gotten a bit better return on your time & effort.
In any event the plot is what is causing the systems problems.

Following Trump will just leave most with the crumbs.
While those with the most just keep getting the best parts of the pie.

You are living in a world where many have had to settle for crumbs.
Who now feel that if they can't have some pie no one will get any pie.

The smart thing to do would be to see there is more pie for every one not just for some.
The sadness is that having more pie is about having more of every thing.

The feeling that if you can have it all why not have it all.
So what if there is much less for others.

It has been an issue of those with having more always being able to get more.
In a life that puts the few ahead of most leaves a very unstable world.

That is the situation we live in today.

In life needs are few & wants are unlimited.
To many have too many wants. (Wants become needs for some.)

Too many have to much & only want what other don't have.

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