lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

A badge does not automatically make one a nice person. When recruitment is low/slow, you don't ask a lot of questions, streamline ( or eliminate ) background checks and rush new officers into duty. This very phenomena is what allowed the military to enlist people who were not citizens of the United States.

There are 10's of 1000's of LEO's working everyday in a professional and moral manner, but it is the few aholes, who never should have been hired in the first place, who grab the headlines - leading ignorant people to believe that they're all like that.

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

I agree with you...But regarding low/slow recruitment...Why do you think that is??/Could it be that CBP and ICE Agents are vilified every day of the week???Who wants to be called child murderers and evil people???.....Who wants to be looked at as real Hitleresque thugs??Can you blame low/slow recruitment???

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

Almost. Decent people won't apply because the agencies are being asked to do things they don't think are proper, it matters little about the who, what, where or when of the policies ( Obam's policies were horrible as well ). When decent people don't apply, psychopaths and sociopaths apply and are accepted. It's not just CBP or ICE either, it's every law enforcement agency in the country.

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

Last Admin pretty much did the same thing...Kids in cages for example started under obama,yet this President get blamed for every little thing that goes wrong...But did you blame last Admin or Admin before last one???

Larai Loc: Fallon, NV

Because of the current political climate... I think they would actually do MORE damage control where socialist liberals are bangin at the door and that any "bad apples" would be dealt with promptly.. I can see where it would be in the Best interests of the BP to make this so.. so they are above reproach. I don't necessarily think the BP agent should be fired unless what he did was very bad...action wise.. what they say and do needs to be monitored but w/out infringing on their 1rst ammendment rights!.. take them off duty or put them somewhere else.. transfer.. unless what they did or said was heinous. then by all means get rid of them. This is and has always been a "hot botton topic".. But these illegals are criminals in that they broke the law by trying to cross illegally into our country.. the BP agents are trying to do their jobs meanwhile trying to stay humane.. but I feel they are over taxed and need the national guard's assistance in this, because it is a humanitarian crisis.. that has been tossed in OUR Laps to deal with, Any country that these people are from need to be advised of reprecussions by continuing to let their people come across illegally.. and then we come to the Actual refugees.. ligitamate people needing asylum.. I'd say that is a job for More than just the border patrol. maybe Homeland security should be in on this too with vetting some of these folks.. Just a thought

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

I blamed them all and still do. That's why I'm a centrist and non partisan. These games politicians play, and get us to play in, hurt real people in real time. Bill Clinton damned near incarcerated 1/8 of of the population for stupid shit. George W. Bush got 1000's of our best young men and women killed searching for non existent WMD's and cost taxpayers trillions of dollars. Obama walked us into more combat in more places than any other President, getting 100's more kids killed and costing trillions more. Trump is spending more on golf and rallies every year, than every other President spent in their entire time in office.

The list of stupid, self serving and amoral stuff past and present administrations were/are involved in, is so long, I'd die of old age before I finished writing it.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Points well taken, and I agree with you 100 percent! As we have seen, now that Democrats are finally seeing this as a crisis, there will be more "claims" of this nature. Not saying that they will all be false claims, but many will be. Just like a few years ago when we heard nothing but bad things about Law Enforcement.... many of the negative stories were tainted against police.

rumitoid

Too funny. Your reasoning to fire those BP agents, if guilty, is not over their racist and sexist comments but to clean house so as not to give the Left fodder. Under Trump, you guys have lost your moral compass. Your hate for Democrats overwhelms decency and is the excuse to act as you do.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

First that is not what she wrote, she said the punishment should fit the crime. But, there is no proof against any BP agent yet, the investigation is in progress. I believe that US Citizens have not lost their moral compass nor have they become indecent.

I believe that those who have crossed the border are criminals..... meaning that they broke the law by entering the US without proper paperwork or permission from our government. As criminals, there should be no question about their disposition..... as criminals, they should be deported immediately after photographing and DNA taken. This would eliminate the need for additional holding areas, reduce cost for their maintenance while in custody, and free up the court system for legitimate asylum seekers who apply according to procedures, reducing their stress and wait times.

Larai Loc: Fallon, NV

Thank you Pennylynn for the back up.. as far as the word fodder that was the poster you backed me up to..that was not my word.. I just feel that there are as you say.. investigations underway.. to prove or disprove the allegations.. in the mean time the BP need to get folks in order..and also as you say...punishment fit the crime. I'm not saying that these BP agents under fire currently should be thrown under the bus.. just make sure everyone is following protocol..I guess I don't get why it's so difficult for some folks to understand they're NOT "Undocumented" They ARE "Illegal" Period. end of discussion.. Not brain surgery..

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Penny, you are a pistol. Love ya for your cool headed reasoning. What a contrast to the emotionally charged leftist reactionaries and their unhinged prejudices.

Ricktloml

[quote=Pennylynn]Slow down and consider this under a clear mind. The article you posted was written by a group in New York City.... far from the border, and far from the people they accuse. They are using a facebook account, that could have been opened by anyone.... not necessarily border patrol. And consider this, there has been no investigation into whether the bad actor(s) is/are border agents or even if any border agents participate in that facebook account. People on social media are rarely who or what they say they are. Here, for example, OPP says it has over 20,000 member (or did before the format changed), there are a few on OPP has made horrible remarks..... and a few in older days threatened other people to include encouraging assassination of the President and one person actually posted home addresses, inviting others to "take care" of the person. Do all of us engage in horrible joke telling, posting nude photos, or even engaging in threats? No. I think you would agree that the vast majority of the people on OPP are not aggressive or intentionally mean spirited. What if someone said you and Whole2Th, Rowland, or Kyven think the same?

Border agents are constantly monitored.... to include their social media accounts. And when they seem to be crossing the line, these men and woman are taken "off line" in the jobs, thoroughly investigated, disciplined if they are found doing the wrong thing. Sure there are some who are not right, some that grow battle fatigued, and some who say things they should not...... But, is that not true of all groups of employees or even social media groups?

I am for giving real investigators an opportunity to get to the bottom of this instead of looking negatively at all agents.[/quote


Thank you PennyLynn. I was trying to think of a way to express the idea that further investigation should occur before widespread condemnation of an entire group of people blows up. You did a great job of pointing out accusation isn't necessarily fact. Too many times we have seen a false narrative pushed to advance an agenda. I will wait for all the facts to surface.

Ricktloml

Maybe decent people don't apply because they know they will be maligned, whether they deserve it or no by agenda driven leftists.

Larai Loc: Fallon, NV

Not sure how many folks remember this nick name for Obama.. "The deporter in chief" he deported 2.5 Million people, more than any sitting president in my lifetime!.. I find it sad & tragic the double standard going on with the house and the senate dems.. now they are at each others throats because of a bill that got voted in just in this past couple days apparently.. it's fixin to be a pirana fest on the Dems side..with Lives in the balance.. find the legitimate refugees, the rest go home.

Yuval Rosenberg,The Fiscal Times 4 hours ago

"The $4.6 billion border bill passed by Congress last week exposed tensions between liberal and centrist factions within the Democratic Party and reportedly created a “bitter rift” between House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer.Before leaving for their July 4 recess, the House approved the bipartisan Senate version of legislation to provide funds for the care of migrants arriving at the southern border. While 129 House Democrats voted for the bill, 95 voted against it"

Interesting!

Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas

All you marxists do is camp out on websites and try to bait hard workin honest American taxpayin citizens
into yer own misconceived civil war

I doubt you could ever work in 100 degree weather fer more than 1o minutes without passin out
I doubt you could rebuild an emp proof cummins engine
I doubt you could build an analog radio from scratch
I doubt you could run a trout line or hunt wild boar
I doubt you would even know what weeds, cactus or grasses to eat if the SHTF
I doubt you and yer antifa terrorists would even know what to do if you accidentally hit yer own
with an acid attack gone bad.......But some of us do.

All you do is project yer own lethargic weaknesses on us.

Never underestimate those here who appear meek are the very ones who have 1000 times the character and wherewithall that you and all yer antifa marxist bomb throwers put together will ever have.

If you home grown commies want civil war, you'll have to bring it to us...if ya can't than STFU