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Apr 2, 2014 17:02:41   #
buddy42 Loc: Bonita Springs, Fl
 
Blacksheep wrote:
Yes. Take your pit bull by the head, lift it off the ground, and shake it vigorously until dead.




It could be said that you deserve the same!

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Apr 2, 2014 17:08:47   #
Brian Devon
 
buddy42 wrote:
It could be said that you deserve the same!





Why not just set aside some land which can be inhabited by pit bulls and their owners. They can run them off leash and let them have "their fun".

Greenland comes to mind. They can just re-name it "Michael-Vick-land".

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Apr 2, 2014 17:24:38   #
buddy42 Loc: Bonita Springs, Fl
 
Brian Devon wrote:
Why not just set aside some land which can be inhabited by pit bulls and their owners. They can run them off leash and let them have "their fun".

Greenland comes to mind. They can just re-name it "Michael-Vick-land".



I could live with that if they would do the same for all brain washed, holier than thou liberals, including you! I would suggest Africa where you would be with all your protégés.

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Apr 2, 2014 19:50:50   #
Artemis
 
ginnyt wrote:
This often happens when humans start breeding for characteristics. Designer dogs! Take the Lacy, this dog will be able to survive in any situation. They have been bred to take down large animals, as big as bulls. They can survive eating scrub grass and go for days without water. Now they are great dogs, but in 20 years they too may become a hazard to humans and in particular small children. I like mutts. Most of them are a combination of many breeds. I do love animals, and my heart breaks when I turn away a pit bull. But, my family has to come above my rescue efforts.

Thank you for the insight and thought you put into your comment.
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Thank you for the comment, have you ever been to a quarter horse show? Talk about designer breeds, they have bred some of them to have the biggest butts :lol: they look more like big pigs :cry:

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Apr 2, 2014 19:55:29   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Yes I have. I also have been to a farm that has "walkers and trotters." Skinny legs; they look so fragile. Farm horses are remarkable. Huge beasts. Duckie likes to go with me when called out to those farms. As yet, we have made no rescues from those places. Most of those breeders really love their animals.

maelstrom wrote:
Thank you for the comment, have you ever been to a quarter horse show? Talk about designer breeds, they have bred some of them to have the biggest butts :lol: they look more like big pigs :cry:


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Apr 2, 2014 20:12:42   #
Artemis
 
ginnyt wrote:
Yes I have. I also have been to a farm that has "walkers and trotters." Skinny legs; they look so fragile. Farm horses are remarkable. Huge beasts. Duckie likes to go with me when called out to those farms. As yet, we have made no rescues from those places. Most of those breeders really love their animals.



:thumbup: :thumbup:


Yes they look great from the side view, but frontal, they are extremely narrow. I have Azteca's the best of both worlds of quarter horse and Spanish, love em, they can do anything.

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Apr 2, 2014 21:55:28   #
cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob
 
MrEd wrote:
They are outlawed in some places, but most of the time they are treated like any other dog. Now I love dogs and I would never normally go against any breed, but this one I do draw the line on. I have been around them and have never felt comfortable in the same room with them. I was around a half wolf and half German Shepard and felt better around him then I did a Pit Bull.

I'm sorry to say this, but I would not be unhappy to see this breed go. This is the only breed that I have ever seen that can draw blood just being playful, and yes I had that done to me. I have been around several other breeds that are considered dangerous and I have never felt threatened, but I did the first time I met a Pit Bull.

I can see people saying that other breeds draw blood too and I agree, but it is by accident with them. I have had my Yourkie draw blood, but not by biting me several times like that Pit Bull did. I just can't justify keeping that breed around for anything other then war dogs and I am not sure they would be very good for that either.
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Have any of you ever watched pit bulls and parolees? These Dogs can be mean'so'are feral cats. This argument that they need to be done away with is ludicrous. And black sheep. I am very surprised that you of all people would write such b.s.

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Apr 2, 2014 22:14:14   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Difference between a feral cat and a pit bull, the cat will run and try to escape. A pit bull attacks and when they get the taste of blood, then they go into a biting frenzy. I am not saying that they should be all rounded up and put down, but I am saying that none should be adopted that is in tact and should not be allowed to breed. If they have bitten then they should have the extraction of the canine teeth so they can not bit again and cause serious damage. In 15 years or so, the breed will naturally die out. They are handsome animals and I am sure that some of them are lovely pets.

cant beleve wrote:
Have any of you ever watched pit bulls and parolees? These Dogs can be mean'so'are feral cats. This argument that they need to be done away with is ludicrous. And black sheep. I am very surprised that you of all people would write such b.s.

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Apr 2, 2014 22:35:13   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Terry Allan Hall wrote:
So...what you're saying is that there's no DNA evidence to prove either your point or mine...right?

And while I've never tried to do so, I'm guessing that it would be difficult to verify lineages from "back-yard breeders", as they'd most likely NOT want to admit that they sold an inferior animal, whether to a pet store or directly to the buyer. Likely would cut into the profits, ya know?

Maybe Animal Control should start taking DNA from dogs being destroyed for viciousness, which might prove to be instructive...
So...what you're saying is that there's no DNA evi... (show quote)


On the surface, your idea of checking the DNA sounds good. however, there are so many genes involved in temperament, not a single gene for any behavior in either man of dog. You would have to find all the genes for fear aggression, which are different from those which modify reactive to noise, territorial, food protective, toy hording aggression. The genes may be located in different areas for different breeds, so the crosses might have new locations, not like either parent. Studies to find the gene for primary lense luxation in terriers took years and thousands of dollars and it is only a single gene, no modifiers. Way too much of a task. then you have to add envirorment, epilepsy, brain tumors, diabetes as causes for aggression and you can see what an impossible task it really is. Suggestion for anyone buying a dog. go to a reliable breeder, handle their adult dogs, watch the dogs at dog shows and performance events, check the pedigrees, then train and socialize the dog well, feed it well and make sure that if you bought it as a house dog, not a working dog for livestock or hunting, it lives in the house with you. Make sure the breeder will help you any way they can, and get references from people who have purchased dogs from that person. A bargain dog seldom really is a bargain.

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Apr 2, 2014 23:01:32   #
ginger
 
Blacksheep wrote:
"pit bulls in home, police say
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An 85-year-old woman was apparently attacked by pit bulls inside her Kaufman, Texas, home.

The body of an 85-year-old Texas woman was found in her home Monday after police say she was apparently attacked by two large and aggressive pit bulls in the home.

Dorothy Hamilton's body was discovered in the home Monday by her son, police said. The dogs belonged to her son and were normally locked in a bedroom. Police believe the dogs broke through the door to get at the woman, Kaufman police told MyFoxDFW.com."


The more helpless the victim, the more likely the attack. Pit bulls are constantly killing babies, toddlers and the old and infirm. Yet owners of this vile breed keep insisting on what loving and wonderful pets they are. Some may be, right up until they decide to attack, because what separates pit bulls from other breeds is their tendency to suddenly attack non-threatening targets without warning. The breed should be outlawed.
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Lets see, now it's pit bulls. I can remember when it was rotties, before that dobies, and before that german shepherds. ANY dog will attack if trained to do so. Some will just because their minds are a little twisted, just like humans. I had a mean border collie that would attack without warning. Otherwise he was a big wussy. He was beaten up by a human when he was a puppy so he was afraid of people except those he knew. It is not the breed. It is how they are raised, except the blue pits. They are all dark gray. They are born aggressive and the only thing you can do is put them down or keep them locked up.

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Apr 2, 2014 23:03:14   #
ginger
 
She Wolf wrote:
I agree. These animals are not pets. They were bred to fight.


No they were not bred to fight. Just some a**holes train them to.

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Apr 2, 2014 23:08:35   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Nicely written. But, DNA can tell the parentage of the animal. Which could lead to the study of the effects of inbreeding on the species. There are zoos that go to great lengths to prevent in breeding. Take for example the destruction of the healthy giraffe and its dissection in front of a group of kids and then they destroyed a pride of healthy lions to prevent inbreeding. I do admire your thinking out of the box, and the exploration of genes and their placements in the helix; and even if we mapped the entire sequence, there is not way, at present, to replace specific genes and produce a dog that will not revert to instinctual nature of the wolf. If DNA is tracked then breeders can ensure that they are not interbreeding and therefor produce healthier specimens.

no propaganda please wrote:
On the surface, your idea of checking the DNA sounds good. however, there are so many genes involved in temperament, not a single gene for any behavior in either man of dog. You would have to find all the genes for fear aggression, which are different from those which modify reactive to noise, territorial, food protective, toy hording aggression. The genes may be located in different areas for different breeds, so the crosses might have new locations, not like either parent. Studies to find the gene for primary lense luxation in terriers took years and thousands of dollars and it is only a single gene, no modifiers. Way too much of a task. then you have to add envirorment, epilepsy, brain tumors, diabetes as causes for aggression and you can see what an impossible task it really is. Suggestion for anyone buying a dog. go to a reliable breeder, handle their adult dogs, watch the dogs at dog shows and performance events, check the pedigrees, then train and socialize the dog well, feed it well and make sure that if you bought it as a house dog, not a working dog for livestock or hunting, it lives in the house with you. Make sure the breeder will help you any way they can, and get references from people who have purchased dogs from that person. A bargain dog seldom really is a bargain.
On the surface, your idea of checking the DNA soun... (show quote)

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Apr 2, 2014 23:15:03   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
No, these dogs go very far back in history. The origins of the breed can be traced back to antiquity and the Molossian family of dogs. The Molossian family of dogs bears the name of the people with whom they were most often associated - the Molossi tribe, a group of people who lived in ancient Greece and favored the use of robust, muscular dogs in warfare. Officially termed canus molossi (dogs of the Molossi), these animals were renowned for their fierceness, and for their innate ability to intimidate the enemies of the tribe. In modern times the breed has been mated to enhance their fierceness. This is the problem with designer dogs.

ginger wrote:
No they were not bred to fight. Just some a**holes train them to.

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Apr 2, 2014 23:17:55   #
ginger
 
OldSchool wrote:
Sorry, I disagree. The Pit Bull has a bad reputation only because they're the favorites of illegal dog fighting and for protecting drug stashes. My son has a Pit Bull (one of many he has had) and she is a sweetheart. This may be one of the most misunderstood breeds. It is the owners who are the bad culprits, not the breed. If you have ever watched Caesar Milan on the "Dog Whisperer" TV program, he loves Pit Bulls and states the same fact that it is the owners, not the breed. The media has amplified the bad press on this breed.

There is far more to the story you just quoted.
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Watch pit bulls and parolees on animal planet. They are great dogs if treated right.
To counter the starting article: It was on the news the other day about a pit bull that saved his family from a fire. He wouldn't leave until all of the family was out of the house. He was badly burned.
A girl walking down the road with her pit. Man pulls up and tries to kidnap her. She and the pit are fine. The cops are looking for someone with several holes in his leg. I have heard many of these stories.

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Apr 2, 2014 23:26:50   #
ginger
 
ginnyt wrote:
No, but he loves cheese of all kinds! Actually they are called Bagle Hounds. A cross between a basset and a beagle. Isn't he cute!!!


That's a cutie!!

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