AuntiE wrote:
If my memory serves, which sometimes it does not, the Southern Poverty Law Center has classified the Tea Party and Christians as "hate groups"; however, did not name Westboro Baptist Church. Such generalizations create divisiveness. Neither side is totally right or totally wrong. As a brief off topic rant, where was the criticism of the Occupy Wall Street movement's complete lack of civilized behavior? One may disagree with Tea Partiers and Christians, but please point out to me the last time either group purposefully destroyed public property, ie. police cars, defecated in public, and committed other felonious acts?
As to your comment on conservative web sites, I have been on more liberal websites and been called a redneck, gun clinger, Bible thumper, home schooled creationist, racist (when I was not addressing issues with the President). I think the door, so to speak, swings both ways. Disagreement can be productive; however, attempting to insult my education (not home schooled), faith (thumping on a Bible shows disrespect for the book) and other such denigration brings reasoned debate to an end.
Obviously I, also, am doing essays.
As to medications, did you notice once you start one medication (I am on none but have seen others who are.) it leads to a new condition created by the first medication. This then leads to a second medication which leads to a third condition, leading to a third medication and on it goes. If you want to really complain about corporate greed, let us start with the pharmaceutical corporations!!!!!
We may find in the future we disagree on some issues; however, I commit you will not receive any insults. If they occur, call me on them. I have apologized public here before for misinterpreting individuals and have no problem doing it again.
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Please call me on it too. Obviously I offended more than one person on here so I didn't make my point clear at all. And I have been guilty at times of being too "enthusiastic". Unfortunately the rancor that happens with both religion and politics is often due to the fact that each side resorts to insults which further hardens the other side and then leads to even more insults. And yes we also stereotype each other. I honestly don't think that most people within a particular party agree with each other on everything. I actually until recently was Independent and did not have a strong loyalty to any party. I still don't have a strong loyalty to the democrat party but I have strong feelings about the way the Republican party has changed in ways I don't like.
Miscommunications happen too and it is often difficult to understand people without body language and verbal cues.
I am sure that you are mistaken about the Southern Poverty Law Center. I have read that they have declared Westboro a hate group. I have not heard that they have declared Christians as a hate group. That would be very offensive. Also my impression is that they deal with organizations, not blanket groups of people. They are trying to make a legal definition of it, presumably in order to be able to take legal action later. By themselves they don't have the authority the government has to make laws about hate groups, but I think what they are trying to do is start the process. So they can't say Christians are a hate group, because that isn't an organization. They can call the KKK a hate group because it is.
As far as the Tea Party I have not heard that so I will check that out. You are right about the Occupiers. However the concerns about the Tea Party (and I may get myself in trouble with this) is that there are many of them that are calling for armed revolution. Now maybe some of this is just bluffing, but I find it alarming. Now this is not officially the position, but on political forums individuals are saying this. What is disturbing is that the ones who aren't calling for violence are not calling them out on it. Yes there are things going badly wrong right now in the government, but I think they are fixable. There has been a lot of misinformation about a lot of things. Some allegations are true, some are not. Recently the story changed with Benghazi. Now Republicans are admitting that there was no stand down order. This kind of deception on their part is one of the reasons I don't trust the party anymore.
Does this qualify them as a hate group? I have trouble with that definition. First of all hate groups are defined as those who discriminate or advocate violence against particular groups of people, not the government. What I have heard is concerns about terrorism, but since that has not happened you can't use that either. Unless there is some proof that they intend to do something then they don't qualify for that definition either. And this is not something that is part of the official position. However we don't know what goes on in their private meetings. My opinion is that we need to keep an eye on these people, or at least any factions that might seem dangerous.
I will answer to the objection that may be coming which is that the democrats haven't been honest about a lot of things either. Frankly I hate politics. It is a dirty business and it seems like more often than not it is a matter of choosing the lesser of two evils. For most of my life I have been pretty apathetic about politics for that reason. It often seems pointless to even vote. I might have better luck using the "eeny, meeny, miny, mo" method. But I have decided that there are some positions that I do need to take a firm stand on because they either affect me personally or affect others that I know. Quite frankly I see extreme positions in BOTH parties which makes it very frustrating. They are WAY too polarized.
Well I am spending waaay too much time on the internet lately talking to people. I need to get some other things done. But yeah one of my problems with one of my medications is that it causes restless leg syndrome which means that I have to take another pill to counteract that. And then I found out by accident that this side-effect pill interacts very badly with anti-histamines which means that I can't take them for my allergies! Unfortunately it is very hard to keep track of possible interactions but this was a bit scary. It wasn't life threatening, but it caused me severe confusion, I kept falling down and I even blacked out once for a minute or two. So I am actually trying to get off of some of these medications because it isn't good to take too many.
Ok got to go now. I'll be back later. ;)
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