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Jun 22, 2019 20:58:29   #
Airforceone
 
Crayons wrote:
I love it when all y'all billy ayers wannabe's/home grown commies git spooled up


Answer the question what is it with you people define socialism and where it is used in our Government. Is that so hard you use the term socialism and know GD idea where we use it in our government. But you bring up the BS Bill Ayers garbage. I bet you don’t even know what Bill Ayers writings were answer that question if you know who Bill Ayers is.

Damm I wonder if any of you Trump supporters are capable of carrying any kind of debate. You use names and terms and have no GD idea who they are.

So come on hot shot who was Bill Ayers and what did he do to piss you off. Also Socialism and where it applies to our government

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Jun 22, 2019 21:29:29   #
JoyV
 
Airforceone wrote:
I stopped reading your post when you got to socialism. Meaning one thing you have no idea what the definition of pure socialism is and give me an example of where socialism is being applied in our government. I am getting pretty GD tired of the right wing ignorance to democratic socialism


He never said PURE Socialism or Democratic Socialism.

But I would love an example of pure socialism? Where has that been successfully implemented?

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Jun 22, 2019 22:35:57   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Oh yea, everyone wants to be a friend of a known domestic terrorist!




Airforceone wrote:
Answer the question what is it with you people define socialism and where it is used in our Government. Is that so hard you use the term socialism and know GD idea where we use it in our government. But you bring up the BS Bill Ayers garbage. I bet you don’t even know what Bill Ayers writings were answer that question if you know who Bill Ayers is.

Damm I wonder if any of you Trump supporters are capable of carrying any kind of debate. You use names and terms and have no GD idea who they are.

So come on hot shot who was Bill Ayers and what did he do to piss you off. Also Socialism and where it applies to our government
Answer the question what is it with you people def... (show quote)

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Jun 22, 2019 22:59:02   #
Carol Kelly
 
Airforceone wrote:
I stopped reading your post when you got to socialism. Meaning one thing you have no idea what the definition of pure socialism is and give me an example of where socialism is being applied in our government. I am getting pretty GD tired of the right wing ignorance to democratic socialism


Oh I believe we do know. History has taught those of us intelligent enough to understand that Socialism won’t work. Ask the people of Poland. They’ll tell you.
Russia, Hungary, East Berlin, etc., etc. Even you know better.

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Jun 22, 2019 22:59:32   #
Carol Kelly
 
JoyV wrote:
He never said PURE Socialism or Democratic Socialism.

But I would love an example of pure socialism? Where has that been successfully implemented?


NO where. Ever!

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Jun 22, 2019 23:29:26   #
Carol Kelly
 
MR Mister wrote:
Good job, but it stills comes down to the IQ of the voters. In 1969 California had an item on its ballot. It took the pay to county supervisors away from the legislator and gave it to the county supervisors! Yes, it gave them the right to set there own pay!! I thought "you got to be kidding"
It passed with 98% yes. The next day every county supervisor gave themselves a 98% pay raise, lol.
Well, the voters were all up in arms! Recalls where filed, lawsuits where filed.
So, I have little faith in votes doing right. Most do not pay attention to what is going on all around them.
Good job, but it stills comes down to the IQ of th... (show quote)


Amen and amen.

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Jun 22, 2019 23:34:11   #
Airforceone
 
JoyV wrote:
He never said PURE Socialism or Democratic Socialism.

But I would love an example of pure socialism? Where has that been successfully implemented?


They either don’t know the definition or just don’t want to answer.

They sure as hell don’t know the definition of pure capitalism and socialism and how they interact to create our democracy. They just don’t understand that in order to have a successful economy, along with education, healthcare and a path out of poverty we need a combination of democratic socialism and capitalism.

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Jun 23, 2019 00:05:19   #
JoyV
 
Airforceone wrote:
They either don’t know the definition or just don’t want to answer.

They sure as hell don’t know the definition of pure capitalism and socialism and how they interact to create our democracy. They just don’t understand that in order to have a successful economy, along with education, healthcare and a path out of poverty we need a combination of democratic socialism and capitalism.


They don't know? I addressed my question to you. Do you know? If so, please convey your superior knowledge.

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Jun 23, 2019 00:08:48   #
debeda
 
JoyV wrote:
They don't know? I addressed my question to you. Do you know? If so, please convey your superior knowledge.



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Jun 23, 2019 00:12:46   #
Airforceone
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
NO where. Ever!


Yup no where ever has pure socialism worked correct and that’s not what democrats are advocating. but answer the GD question what is the definition of socialism and where in our government is it being used. Then look up pure capitalism and show me where that is being used.

Why is it that you Trump supporters use these words and have no idea What your talking about.

Have you ever studied the economy of Norway and how they tie democratic socialism into Capitalism. My guess is no because you have no idea what it means.

There are 8 different forms of socialism and yes the Scandinavian countries have a form of socialism. Why not do some research instead of making a stupid statement. It’s very difficult to explain on this site 8 different types of socialism because when you deal with ignorance to the meaning of these forms of government.

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Jun 23, 2019 00:21:38   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
Airforceone wrote:

So come on hot shot who was Bill Ayers and what did he do to piss you off. Also Socialism and where it applies to our government

I know exactly who yer little weather underground terrorist friends 'billy ayers n' bernadine dohrn' are,
Do you?

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Jun 23, 2019 00:25:18   #
debeda
 
Airforceone wrote:
Yup no where ever has pure socialism worked correct and that’s not what democrats are advocating. but answer the GD question what is the definition of socialism and where in our government is it being used. Then look up pure capitalism and show me where that is being used.

Why is it that you Trump supporters use these words and have no idea What your talking about.

Have you ever studied the economy of Norway and how they tie democratic socialism into Capitalism. My guess is no because you have no idea what it means.

There are 8 different forms of socialism and yes the Scandinavian countries have a form of socialism. Why not do some research instead of making a stupid statement. It’s very difficult to explain on this site 8 different types of socialism because when you deal with ignorance to the meaning of these forms of government.
Yup no where ever has pure socialism worked correc... (show quote)


Sweden actually started cutting back on socialist programs about 10 years ago. And I will give you an example of socialism NOT working. Medicare is a program seniors are required to enroll in, and premiums are deducted from their social security checks. There is a new program now where your premiums are still deducted from your check, but a private health insurance company manages your care. Straight government Medicare coverage has gotten worse and worse every year. Until it covered almost nothing. The new coverage, in my case Humana, is EXCELLENT, for the same price, with many perks. Pretty much anything that requires fiscal responsibility should NEVER be given to our current form of government to be run. So what I have given you is an example of a failed US socialist program. Imagine, for a minute, if there were no longer any private health insurance companies to step in and save the day? Pretty much if you were a senior, and had no money, you'd get pathetic medical care.

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Jun 23, 2019 05:55:54   #
badbob85037
 
bmac32 wrote:
The only way to take back your country (any country) begins and ends with reclaiming your own hometown by running your own candidates for mayors, councillors and school board trustees in the very next election.

It’s an idea for a Counter Revolution, whose time came a long time ago but has been virtually ignored until now.

It is not at the federal level of government where the shift to socialism can be stopped in its tracks, but at the largely ignored civic or municipal level.
.

Progressives are in the process of turning America into a socialist state in Election 2020. Towns and cities—long ago hijacked by the United Nations Agenda 21/2030—have already completed the process and are now owned lock, stock and barrel by the UN without their citizens even being aware of it.

Although it’s now a worldwide trend, the list of ICLEI-controlled cities in the U.S. and Canada is stupendous. here

“You can’t fight City Hall and Win"has been drilled into the public conscience for decades, making it seem that everything proclaimed by fat-cat Mayor Butter-pants is inevitable. But you CAN fight City Hall and Win by voting them out of office and replacing them in the very next local election.

While the mayor is out cutting ribbons,or catching catnaps during council meetings, you can be out there papering the ‘hood. getting the message out to friends and neighbors.

It’s easier than you think because not only voters but the mainstream and social media tend to ignore most civic elections.

Municipal governments include thousands of wayward school boards, which are responsible for setting policies that indoctrinate rather than educate children in taxpayer-subsidized public schools, where now male perverts have full access to girls’ washrooms.

Election statistics prove that apathy gets most mayors, councillors and school board trustees elected, many of them already well schooled in Saul Aliinsky-style Social Engineering.

Mayors of the present day only end up in headlines when they are outrageous (New York’s City’s Communist-crazed Mayor Bill de Blasio) or the creators of gargantuan publicity stunts (London Mayor Sadiq Khan’s ‘Baby Trump’ Balloon).

Most other mayors, seen as ribbon-cutters at new bank and restaurant openings, are either totally ignored or ridiculed as vexatious but harmless clowns and goofs.

Long lost from public view is that the mayors often make the stink bombs—later thrown at the masses by members of senior level of governments.

Remember, It is mayors elected by public apathy who get away with declaring cities “sanctuary cities"and not the feds.

Here’s the latest sign of city mayors at work:

‘Mayors of major US cities say they will not cooperate with planned ICE raids of illegal aliens’
—(The Blaze, June 22, 2019)

“Several leaders of major U.S. cities have reacted to reports of planned Immigration and Customs Enforcement raids, and they say they will not cooperate with the federal action.

“Mark Morgan, the acting director of ICE, told reporters that the raids would target families that have received a deportation order.

“If you’re here illegally, then you should be removed,” he said. “And in this case, that includes families.”

“Some mayors are responding to the report with anger and intransigence.

Chicago

“Chicago’s Mayor Lori Lightfoot said that she had cancelled access to ICE of their police databases, and sounded off to the department about her opposition to the raids.

“I have also personally spoken with ICE leadership in Chicago and voiced my strong objection to any such raids,” Lightfoot said.

“Further, I reiterated that CPD will not cooperate with or facilitate any ICE enforcement actions,” she added.



Los Angeles

“Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti made no distinction between legal and illegal immigrants in his statement that rejected the planned raids.

“Los Angeles will always stand with our immigrant brothers and sisters, and our law enforcement officers will never participate in these actions,” Garcetti said. “No Angeleno should ever have to fear being snatched from their home or separated from their loved ones—and we are doing everything we can to provide immigrant families with the information and support they need.”

Houston

“Houston Mayor Sylvester Turner released a statement citing the “rich cultural contributions” of immigrants to his city.

“The city does not try to do ICE’s job, nor does it try to impede ICE,” he added.

“Turner, however, noted that ICE had not notified Houston of increased ICE activity in the same way they had other cities.

“It doesn’t what your ethnicity is, your religion, whether your (sic) documented or undocumented,” Turner added. “If you’re in the city of Houston, I’m your mayor.”



“ICE is expected to target 2,000 families in ten cities including Miami, Houston, Los Angeles and Chicago.

“The president tweeted on Monday about the raids.

“Next week ICE will begin the process of removing the millions of illegal aliens who have illicitly found their way into the United States,” he said.

Here’s a report about the impending ICE raids:

ICE set to begin immigration raids in 10 cities www.youtube.com

Only honest townsfolk and city dwellers can turn back the socialist tide.

But they can’t wait “to get the UN out of America and America out of the UN”, which has turned out to be all talk and no action.

The UN wants all cities and towns populated with “global citizens"when their populations see themselves as ordinary patriotic citizens.

Townsfolk and the citizens of cities can turn the table on encroaching socialism and take their country back.

Look up the dates of your next municipal election and get out and run against your mayor, council members and school board trustees.

If you don’t win this time, get out and take them on a second time, and keep running against them until you take over their seats.

Start the Counter Revolution that will take your country back and start it today.
The only way to take back your country (any countr... (show quote)


Bill Clinton was a big supporter of the UN's Desertification Act. It put 70% of American land under UN control. The people said no way and it was not passed. Then one night when the people though this bill was dead a Republican Congress tossed the bill in with a few other bills and with a show of hands the bill was passed.

Right away signs went up at all Federal Parks 'Under UN Control'. The American people were furious and the signs came down but that is as far as it went and changed nothing. It is past the point of believing one party good one party evil mentality as both will sell this country out to obtain ill gotten gain.

Now I know there are a lot of idiots in America but what allowed obama to commit so many Constitutional violations and abuses of power? The Republicans who turned a blind eye daily to his lawlessness. It's said if you don't know your rights you have none which is why we got to this point. When an unconstitutional is passed the other party says elect me and I will have this lawless law repealed. But unless you are 100 years old you have never seen it happen. It wasn't my fault we are trillions in debt and my taxes goes to pay interest to the Feds who counterfeit trillions in worthless paper .

First we declare the national debt null and void, round up these banksters and charge with crimes against humanity. After all they have started every war since the French Revolution profiting from both sides. This includes all government that has made their profit possible. Only then should we jail and string up the little fish.

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Jun 23, 2019 06:21:25   #
badbob85037
 
Airforceone wrote:
Yup no where ever has pure socialism worked correct and that’s not what democrats are advocating. but answer the GD question what is the definition of socialism and where in our government is it being used. Then look up pure capitalism and show me where that is being used.

Why is it that you Trump supporters use these words and have no idea What your talking about.

Have you ever studied the economy of Norway and how they tie democratic socialism into Capitalism. My guess is no because you have no idea what it means.

There are 8 different forms of socialism and yes the Scandinavian countries have a form of socialism. Why not do some research instead of making a stupid statement. It’s very difficult to explain on this site 8 different types of socialism because when you deal with ignorance to the meaning of these forms of government.
Yup no where ever has pure socialism worked correc... (show quote)


Socialism is a necessary step to Communism. It's the force of taking from one and giving to another while skimming a piece of the pie for yourself as the population think you are doing them a favor. There is only one type of Socialism and it has failed every time. You should be looking for other words that puts any type of lasting benefits on a Socialist system.

If you are lazy or worthless then Socialism is for you. But along the way as others see you get as much as the next guy if you produce or not the system fails. I hope I explained it in a way you can understand true Socialism.

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Jun 23, 2019 06:39:34   #
rebob14
 
bmac32 wrote:
The only way to take back your country (any country) begins and ends with reclaiming your own hometown by running your own candidates for mayors, councillors and school board trustees in the very next election.

It’s an idea for a Counter Revolution, whose time came a long time ago but has been virtually ignored until now.

It is not at the federal level of government where the shift to socialism can be stopped in its tracks, but at the largely ignored civic or municipal level.
.

Progressives are in the process of turning America into a socialist state in Election 2020. Towns and cities—long ago hijacked by the United Nations Agenda 21/2030—have already completed the process and are now owned lock, stock and barrel by the UN without their citizens even being aware of it.

Although it’s now a worldwide trend, the list of ICLEI-controlled cities in the U.S. and Canada is stupendous. here

“You can’t fight City Hall and Win"has been drilled into the public conscience for decades, making it seem that everything proclaimed by fat-cat Mayor Butter-pants is inevitable. But you CAN fight City Hall and Win by voting them out of office and replacing them in the very next local election.

While the mayor is out cutting ribbons,or catching catnaps during council meetings, you can be out there papering the ‘hood. getting the message out to friends and neighbors.

It’s easier than you think because not only voters but the mainstream and social media tend to ignore most civic elections.

Municipal governments include thousands of wayward school boards, which are responsible for setting policies that indoctrinate rather than educate children in taxpayer-subsidized public schools, where now male perverts have full access to girls’ washrooms.

Election statistics prove that apathy gets most mayors, councillors and school board trustees elected, many of them already well schooled in Saul Aliinsky-style Social Engineering.

Mayors of the present day only end up in headlines when they are outrageous (New York’s City’s Communist-crazed Mayor Bill de Blasio) or the creators of gargantuan publicity stunts (London Mayor Sadiq Khan’s ‘Baby Trump’ Balloon).

Most other mayors, seen as ribbon-cutters at new bank and restaurant openings, are either totally ignored or ridiculed as vexatious but harmless clowns and goofs.

Long lost from public view is that the mayors often make the stink bombs—later thrown at the masses by members of senior level of governments.

Remember, It is mayors elected by public apathy who get away with declaring cities “sanctuary cities"and not the feds.

Here’s the latest sign of city mayors at work:

‘Mayors of major US cities say they will not cooperate with planned ICE raids of illegal aliens’
—(The Blaze, June 22, 2019)

“Several leaders of major U.S. cities have reacted to reports of planned Immigration and Customs Enforcement raids, and they say they will not cooperate with the federal action.

“Mark Morgan, the acting director of ICE, told reporters that the raids would target families that have received a deportation order.

“If you’re here illegally, then you should be removed,” he said. “And in this case, that includes families.”

“Some mayors are responding to the report with anger and intransigence.

Chicago

“Chicago’s Mayor Lori Lightfoot said that she had cancelled access to ICE of their police databases, and sounded off to the department about her opposition to the raids.

“I have also personally spoken with ICE leadership in Chicago and voiced my strong objection to any such raids,” Lightfoot said.

“Further, I reiterated that CPD will not cooperate with or facilitate any ICE enforcement actions,” she added.



Los Angeles

“Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti made no distinction between legal and illegal immigrants in his statement that rejected the planned raids.

“Los Angeles will always stand with our immigrant brothers and sisters, and our law enforcement officers will never participate in these actions,” Garcetti said. “No Angeleno should ever have to fear being snatched from their home or separated from their loved ones—and we are doing everything we can to provide immigrant families with the information and support they need.”

Houston

“Houston Mayor Sylvester Turner released a statement citing the “rich cultural contributions” of immigrants to his city.

“The city does not try to do ICE’s job, nor does it try to impede ICE,” he added.

“Turner, however, noted that ICE had not notified Houston of increased ICE activity in the same way they had other cities.

“It doesn’t what your ethnicity is, your religion, whether your (sic) documented or undocumented,” Turner added. “If you’re in the city of Houston, I’m your mayor.”



“ICE is expected to target 2,000 families in ten cities including Miami, Houston, Los Angeles and Chicago.

“The president tweeted on Monday about the raids.

“Next week ICE will begin the process of removing the millions of illegal aliens who have illicitly found their way into the United States,” he said.

Here’s a report about the impending ICE raids:

ICE set to begin immigration raids in 10 cities www.youtube.com

Only honest townsfolk and city dwellers can turn back the socialist tide.

But they can’t wait “to get the UN out of America and America out of the UN”, which has turned out to be all talk and no action.

The UN wants all cities and towns populated with “global citizens"when their populations see themselves as ordinary patriotic citizens.

Townsfolk and the citizens of cities can turn the table on encroaching socialism and take their country back.

Look up the dates of your next municipal election and get out and run against your mayor, council members and school board trustees.

If you don’t win this time, get out and take them on a second time, and keep running against them until you take over their seats.

Start the Counter Revolution that will take your country back and start it today.
The only way to take back your country (any countr... (show quote)


It IS possible! We got our city to reject the renewal of the federal grant that paid the salaries of the “consensus builders”. They lost their influence and we were no longer a STAR community. Two election cycles later, the middle class chose to go back to sleep and civic responsibility was diminished in city government. The human drive to “manage” fellow citizens is sociopathic and unrelenting but can be kept in check through diligence and truthful information.

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