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Apr 1, 2014 14:26:39   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Our wolf mix, a neutered male, was protective but never was out of control aggressive. I had two sons, both very young and that dog was the best compaign and I felt absolutely confident that he would have given his life for either of my kids, my husband or myself. However, when we had company I always took him to his enclosed run until he got used to the scent of the guest and showed me that he accepted them as a member of his pack. Yes, he was an alpha male, but just a real loving guy. He died from old age having never shown unprovoked territorial tendency or uncontrolled aggression. He was real aggressive with his toys but you could take food from his mouth without a second thought. That was my dog and has never been replaced in my heart.

bahmer wrote:
That is of course a loaded question and if one guesses wrong someone else usually pays the consequences of that decision. I saw a show awhile back and it featured a german sheperd-wolf combination. I believe it was a 50/50 combination like wolf male top german sheperd female. But the interesting feature was when this dog/wolf grew up the owner played with the dog and had a relation with the animal. When playing with this animal the animal would play like a dog and they would wrestle and goof around and then out of the blue the animal would for some unforeseen reason turn into full wolf in its actions. They never figured out what the trigger was but when the trigger happened you would fear for your life. This may be something that is similar in the pit bull. However which combination would finally be acceptable in all cases only time and experimentation would tell that story and even then are you willing to take the chance that your dog may not have a throwback to the original.
That is of course a loaded question and if one gue... (show quote)

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Apr 1, 2014 14:28:07   #
bahmer
 
ginnyt wrote:
Dr. Race Foster, D.V.M., who writes for the pet education website Doctors Foster and Smith, explains that androgenic hormones, of which testosterone is the most important, affect many behaviors in dogs, including sexual and aggressive actions. “Regardless of which category [of behavior] we are talking about,” he writes, “most of the unwanted characteristics or conditions are caused by the male hormone testosterone, which is produced within the testicle.” Removing the testicles effectively puts a stop to these unwanted behaviors. It is not 100 percent effective in every case, but it sure would go a long way in reducing the amount of attacks. But, Dr Foster says that the surgery should be done before the dog's 1st birthday. By that time, it is more than just hormone; it is by all accounts part training/treatment and hormone.
Dr. Race Foster, D.V.M., who writes for the pet ed... (show quote)


That is still very scary. I don't think that I would trust an animal like that around small children or elderly people. I don't think that i would trust them around other pets either.

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Apr 1, 2014 14:44:12   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
I think, like all animals, they are all different. Having said that, I would not welcome a pit bull into my home. You know that I do animal rescue work. I have been called about taking in pit bulls and I always say no. It is not easy, especially when the animal is starving or chained up without care; but I would not risk having one around Duckie or my other animals. That includes my horses. I do have a few dogs, a greyhound that I rescued a few years back, a bagle hound (who loves to talk), and a lab.
bahmer wrote:
That is still very scary. I don't think that I would trust an animal like that around small children or elderly people. I don't think that i would trust them around other pets either.

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Apr 1, 2014 14:50:40   #
bahmer
 
ginnyt wrote:
I think, like all animals, they are all different. Having said that, I would not welcome a pit bull into my home. You know that I do animal rescue work. I have been called about taking in pit bulls and I always say no. It is not easy, especially when the animal is starving or chained up without care; but I would not risk having one around Duckie or my other animals. That includes my horses. I do have a few dogs, a greyhound that I rescued a few years back, a bagle hound (who loves to talk), and a lab.
I think, like all animals, they are all different.... (show quote)


Did your bagle hound come with cream cheese. OMG I am getting silly I guess I have been on to long now.

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Apr 1, 2014 14:53:21   #
bahmer
 
ginnyt wrote:
I think, like all animals, they are all different. Having said that, I would not welcome a pit bull into my home. You know that I do animal rescue work. I have been called about taking in pit bulls and I always say no. It is not easy, especially when the animal is starving or chained up without care; but I would not risk having one around Duckie or my other animals. That includes my horses. I do have a few dogs, a greyhound that I rescued a few years back, a bagle hound (who loves to talk), and a lab.
I think, like all animals, they are all different.... (show quote)


I can appreciate the concern for duckie as any sign at all of some kind of weakness or injury would send these animals into a feeding frenzy that would truly be devastating. With animals it is always better to be safe than sorry.

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Apr 1, 2014 15:08:48   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
No, but he loves cheese of all kinds! Actually they are called Bagle Hounds. A cross between a basset and a beagle. Isn't he cute!!!

bahmer wrote:
Did your bagle hound come with cream cheese. OMG I am getting silly I guess I have been on to long now.



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Apr 1, 2014 15:10:48   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
With Duckie's back being not quite right and she is rather timid at times, a pit would see her as prey.

bahmer wrote:
I can appreciate the concern for duckie as any sign at all of some kind of weakness or injury would send these animals into a feeding frenzy that would truly be devastating. With animals it is always better to be safe than sorry.

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Apr 1, 2014 15:29:41   #
bahmer
 
ginnyt wrote:
No, but he loves cheese of all kinds! Actually they are called Bagle Hounds. A cross between a basset and a beagle. Isn't he cute!!!


He is cute. I have never heard of that. I have heard of the beagle and I have heard of the basset but never the two together. I just thought it was a typo and tried to be funny. Most dogs do love cheese. I used to have german shorthair pointers when younger as I always liked to go pheasant hunting. They are one smart dog and when trained they are so much fun to watch hunt. They were always gentle around our children and very much part of the family. We have had irish setters and they are beautiful but when you take them out hunting their fluffy fur picks up every burr and bramble in the area. They also tend to be a bit head strong.

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Apr 1, 2014 15:40:23   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
It was funny! Sorry that I did not acknowledge the humor. I find Irish Sitters so beautiful, but they are a nervous breed. Perhaps I just have run into the ones that are nervous because they were being rescued. Their hair reminds me of a child because of how silky it feels. Our greyhound has very thin hair and has to wear a coat if the temp is below 45, but the lab oh my good I never have known a more pleasant playful personality. And of course our bagel does not like the cold. But, he has a fine nose and can chase small game all day!

bahmer wrote:
He is cute. I have never heard of that. I have heard of the beagle and I have heard of the basset but never the two together. I just thought it was a typo and tried to be funny. Most dogs do love cheese. I used to have german shorthair pointers when younger as I always liked to go pheasant hunting. They are one smart dog and when trained they are so much fun to watch hunt. They were always gentle around our children and very much part of the family. We have had irish setters and they are beautiful but when you take them out hunting their fluffy fur picks up every burr and bramble in the area. They also tend to be a bit head strong.
He is cute. I have never heard of that. I have hea... (show quote)

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Apr 1, 2014 20:37:04   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
Are you a pit bull owner ?

Augustus Greatorex wrote:
I wouldn't. But I support freedom.

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Apr 1, 2014 21:00:49   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Augustus Greatorex wrote:
I wouldn't. But I support freedom.



Dogs that are bred to fight other dogs are not necessarily people aggressive. However, unsocialized dogs, untrained and locked in a room may very well become very aggressive. Of course dogs of this size have extremely powerful jaws and can easily kill someone who is old, or a baby. However, the American Staffordshire terrier, the close relative of the "pit bull" can have a delightful temperament if properly raised and trained. Most of the dogs labeled "pit bulls" are mixes of a number of breeds, often with some Am Staff and mastiff in them, and bred to be aggressive enough to protect the drugs, usually meth or coke, the owner has. Pound per pound most Yorkshire terriers are more aggressive, but they are small enough to pick up and lock in a cage if they get aggressive. Many people who have "pit bulls"
are using then for purposes that require the dogs be aggressive and dangerous. Those people should not have dogs,period. Never ban a breed just have better laws that mandate dogs that seriously harm a person be put down. For instance the "pit bull" that ripped off half a child's face last week, should be euthanized as soon as his rabies observation period is up. Instead a group of moron PETA people are whining and collecting money to save the dog. Donations should be made toward the child's surgery not the damn dogs life.
One of the problems with banning a breed of dog is that most animal control officers or policemen couldn't tell the difference between a French Bulldog and a "Pit bull".

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Apr 1, 2014 21:06:30   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
ginnyt wrote:
It was funny! Sorry that I did not acknowledge the humor. I find Irish Sitters so beautiful, but they are a nervous breed. Perhaps I just have run into the ones that are nervous because they were being rescued. Their hair reminds me of a child because of how silky it feels. Our greyhound has very thin hair and has to wear a coat if the temp is below 45, but the lab oh my good I never have known a more pleasant playful personality. And of course our bagel does not like the cold. But, he has a fine nose and can chase small game all day!
It was funny! Sorry that I did not acknowledge th... (show quote)



If I were to have a Setter it would be an Irish RED AND WHITE they are still sane capable hunting dogs with few genetic problems and not so much coat as to be a problem in the field.

Never heard of them? Look them up on the AKC site. and no, I don't have an Irish red and white, but do have a mastiff, great dog but requires space and a strong hand to train them.

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Apr 1, 2014 21:15:55   #
emarine
 
Blacksheep wrote:
"pit bulls in home, police say
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An 85-year-old woman was apparently attacked by pit bulls inside her Kaufman, Texas, home.

The body of an 85-year-old Texas woman was found in her home Monday after police say she was apparently attacked by two large and aggressive pit bulls in the home.

Dorothy Hamilton's body was discovered in the home Monday by her son, police said. The dogs belonged to her son and were normally locked in a bedroom. Police believe the dogs broke through the door to get at the woman, Kaufman police told MyFoxDFW.com."


The more helpless the victim, the more likely the attack. Pit bulls are constantly killing babies, toddlers and the old and infirm. Yet owners of this vile breed keep insisting on what loving and wonderful pets they are. Some may be, right up until they decide to attack, because what separates pit bulls from other breeds is their tendency to suddenly attack non-threatening targets without warning. The breed should be outlawed.
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All dogs deserve a fair shake... although pit bulls are not my breed of choice ....http://www.aspca.org/pet-care/virtual-pet-behaviorist/dog-behavior/truth-about-pit-bulls

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Apr 1, 2014 21:20:01   #
Blacksheep
 
emarine wrote:
All dogs deserve a fair shake... although pit bulls are not my breed of choice ....http://www.aspca.org/pet-care/virtual-pet-behaviorist/dog-behavior/truth-about-pit-bulls


Yes. Take your pit bull by the head, lift it off the ground, and shake it vigorously until dead.

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Apr 1, 2014 21:24:46   #
emarine
 
Blacksheep wrote:
Yes. Take your pit bull by the head, lift it off the ground, and shake it vigorously until dead.


Try reading the link...Now your a poet... don't quit your day job :lol:

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