JoyV

Take your own advice. I HAVE read it!!! It clearly indicates ZERO evidence was found of collusion. It isn't as strongly worded about whether there was obstruction. But the items listed are not obstruction. For instance;
*the 1st item listed is that during the campaign Trump denied there was collusion with Russia.
>In what world is denying you were involved in a crime in which you turned out to be correct, obstruction of justice?
*The 2nd item was Trump's conversation with Comey regarding Flynn where he said, "I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go. He is a good guy. I hope you can let this
go."
>How is saying "I hope" the equivalent of ordering the FBI drop it. This is NOT obstruction of justice!
*The 3rd is Trump not wanting Sessions to recuse himself and allow those who made it clear they had an anti-Trump agenda.
>This was a perfectly reasonable thing to be concerned about!!!!
*The 4th is Trump firing Comey.
>This has been examined ad nauseum. There were multiple valid reasons to fire him which did not involve the investigation, and Trump received multiple recommendations that Comey should be fired. Especially the letter Rosenstein wrote recommending Comey's firing. Following these recommendations id NOT obstruction of justice!
*The 5th is Trump voicing his anger that Sessions recused himself and suggesting he resign. The report includes in info that Sessions wrote a letter of resignation which Trump refused to accept.
>Even if he had accepted Sessions' resignation, it would NOT have been obstruction of justice. Session resigning would not end the investigation.
*The 6th was Trump asking that Sessions publicly state that Mueller's investigation was being unfairly done.
>Even if Sessions had made such a statement, it would not have closed the investigation so not obstruction of justice.
*The 7th was Trump wanting his aides to NOT give the emails about the Trump tower meeting to the press before they were investigated by Mueller.
>So how can giving the info to the investigators BEFORE the news media be considered obstruction of justice?
*The 8th was Trump saying he had warm regards for Flynn and praised Manafort.
>obstruction??????
*The 9th was Trump's change of comments regarding Cohen from supportive to castigation after Cohen lied.
>Even if Trump's opinion of Cohen had no good basis, how does his opinion obstruct justice?

Here is the Mueller Report volumn II which is the part which deals with potential obstruction.
https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Muelller-Report-Redacted-Vol-II-Released-04.18.2019-Word-Searchable.-Reduced-Size.pdf

woodguru

Last I heard over a thousand ex prosecutors are saying they could get successful prosecutions from it.

Mueller tried to list evidence without making conclusions about whether it rose to the level of prosecution, which he adhered to DOJ theory that it can't

woodguru

Like right wingers that still cling to a ridiculous belief that Obama destroyed our economy?

Five minutes of historical facts and numbers fix that for anyone using an open mind that can accept new facts over their embedded rhetorical beliefs.

Obama took over a destroyed economy, and had turned it to a solid stability when Trump took office.

Mikeyavelli

If Mueller had so much as found that Trump removed a mattress tag 50 years ago, he would have found a way to motivate the Deep State and remove Trump from office. There are just as many Republicans as Democrats who want Trump outta there. And if they, after almost 4 years of spying on Trump, couldn't find anything, they will have to come up with another way, and that's probably the Clinton Solution. Arkancide.

John King

woodguru.........stop . . . . just stop already!!! If you have a point to make and you can show something supportive of your original comment . . . then let's have it! Otherwise it's time to let this topic go! So . . . you have the floor and we all await to read your supportive information that justifies your original comment!!!

John King

My comment was to throw back this one-sidedness (...for lack of a better word...) that woodguru started this whole topic with.

You are correct also! I wonder though, do these cretins really want the VP to become President?!? Maybe they don't care . . . maybe they hate Trump sooooo much, they just don't care! That being said . . . bravo on your comment!!!

son of witless

Why don't you quote the relevant parts ?

moldyoldy

I think his point is, there was a town hall with Amash, a woman who only gets conservative news said had not heard that there was any question about trumps innocence. In other words the right wing bubble is completely sealed.

JoyV

I met a Democrat once who ranted at me on the street because after asking me what I fed my guide dog went on a conniption fit screaming at me because I wasn't feeding the dog a vegan diet. I didn't consider this behavior to be typical Democrat behavior, and didn't paint all Democrats with the same brush. I just thought this person had a screw loose. To conclude that this woman at the town hall was indicative of the right wing is close minded at best!

moldyoldy

OPP disproves that.

Mikeyavelli

Yes, they can manipulate Mike Pence. Pence is a RINO at heart, a good, very good Republican who listens to the intellectual superiority of the left and eventually caves in to their demands. McCain and Romney did it, and they are very, very good Republicans. And Pence would resign for the asking, and that would make Nancy Pelosi president, who would nominate Hillary Clinton as Vice president, and then....Pelosi would resign.

Smedley_buzkill

I heard several different numbers. You Liberals can't get your figures straight. Or maybe you just can't count past 20 without unzipping your fly.

Mikeyavelli

When a soy boy unzips his fly to count it becomes a negative.

moldyoldy

More are signing on all the time as they read the report

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

Absolutely!