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Mar 30, 2014 23:21:01   #
bahmer
 
The Dutchman wrote:
Jeeze oh pete bahmer, where the heck are you at? Antarctica! I'm at 7,200' elevation and it's been in the upper 60's to mid 70's. Still getting a couple good frosts at night though......


Northern Illinois it is finally up to about 45 today and promises of warmer tomorrow. There have been years when we would have been golfing by now and then there have been years where it has remained cold all the way through Easter. This is one of the cold years and therefore global warming is a myth. I had a $190.00 heating bill for last month as we were down in the single digits for highs and negative 20's on some days.

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Mar 30, 2014 23:55:23   #
The Dutchman
 
bahmer wrote:
Northern Illinois it is finally up to about 45 today and promises of warmer tomorrow. There have been years when we would have been golfing by now and then there have been years where it has remained cold all the way through Easter. This is one of the cold years and therefore global warming is a myth. I had a $190.00 heating bill for last month as we were down in the single digits for highs and negative 20's on some days.


I spent some time in the N/W corner of the big windy living in the Grays Lake area while assigned to NAS Glenview and never recall Spring being this late there but Winters were a bitch....

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Mar 31, 2014 00:07:14   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Actually we are Hasidic Jew, very Orthodox. Even the ladies still wear wigs in public.

Duckie will be flattered that you remember her. I would love to take the credit for Duckie being as strong as she is, but it is all her. I can say that I am indeed a very blessed old woman!

When you find a synagogue near you, just keep in mind that service is on Saturday; you will be welcomed with warmth and hospitality. Do not worry about anything, the men will guide you. And do not expect anyone to try to preach to you or convert you. Just enjoy yourself. Most of the Orthodox services are very simple. The temple is not ornate, simple and warm. I wish I were closer to you or you closer to us, we would gladly take you with us! And be proud to introduce you to everyone!

bahmer wrote:
OK so you are Orthodox then.Tell Duckie I am sorry for believing that she was a he and that he/she was your son. Anyway thank her for keeping us informed as to your health and progress through your surgery etc. We are all glad that you are up and about. I will then change the compliment to you have a fine and wonderful daughter and you should be very proud of her. Unfortunately the liberals or progressives you know the ones that are soooo understanding are the ones that scream the loudest if you disagree with them in any way shape or form. I will try to find an Orthodox Synagogue here in my area as soon as the weather warms to above 30 degrees. Again wishing you well and say high to your children your are truly a blessing and a tribute to you.
OK so you are Orthodox then.Tell Duckie I am sorry... (show quote)

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Mar 31, 2014 00:19:23   #
rumitoid
 
J Anthony wrote:
In a recent scroll ,"A Lesson In Economics", i lost my temper with an ignorant,insulting poster and got vulgar. To the ignorant,this suggested that i lost the argument. Not so. The ignoramus i lost my patience with was not giving me an argument or any substantial debate. Just insults and propaganda. Any of you who have read any of my previous posts know i am eager for rational discussions about relevant issues and i try, in vain, to reach out to people with different views. I am sorry that i got obscene on what is supposed to be, i think, a civilized forum. But i'm not sorry for the vitriol i spewed at him, the guy deserved it. IGNORANCE IS A HUGE OBSTACLE TOWARD PROGRESS. If you are on this site just to insult people, and not try to communicate on relevant issues, get lost. Some of us are interested in solutions. You want to argue facts, truth, root-causes? Anytime. But that's not what i get from the few ignoramuses on this forum. So i lost my temper. I'm human. But i guess i give the ignorant what they want when i sink to their level. I welcome any suggestions on how to deal with fellow Americans whose minds are closed and hatred strong. Their sheer ignorance is a huge impediment to making things right in this country.
In a recent scroll ,"A Lesson In Economics&q... (show quote)


"The guy deserved it" is, for me, a cue to something in you that needs more work.
Ignorant is simply "not knowing." Someone not agreeing with you does not make them ignoramuses--even if you have a ton of evidence. Belief have made them resistant, not ignorance or even stupidity, though those elements are usually present where belief overrides an open look at the facts.

Not a soul on earth is not ignorant. Build a case against ignorance and you both indict and convict yourself.

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Mar 31, 2014 06:24:37   #
J Anthony Loc: Connecticut
 
rumitoid wrote:
"The guy deserved it" is, for me, a cue to something in you that needs more work.
Ignorant is simply "not knowing." Someone not agreeing with you does not make them ignoramuses--even if you have a ton of evidence. Belief have made them resistant, not ignorance or even stupidity, though those elements are usually present where belief overrides an open look at the facts.

Not a soul on earth is not ignorant. Build a case against ignorance and you both indict and convict yourself.
"The guy deserved it" is, for me, a cue ... (show quote)


We all need more work. At least I can acknowledge as much

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Mar 31, 2014 06:27:04   #
J Anthony Loc: Connecticut
 
ginnyt wrote:
Hello J,

It is easy to get angry on this site. Many people find your particular buttons and then just do not know when to stop poking you with a stick. I did not read that thread, but I can tell you that it really is not worth your dignity to become paralyzed with anger. It detracts from your point. But, you know that and thus the reason for your post. I have been away for a while and this is my first time back, this place has become very hostile. Few people are willing to converse. Most of the new folks seem very hostile to opposing points of view.

I commend you for recognizing this breach, I further admire you for posting your regrets. I hope that this one time unpleasant incident does not drive you away. It is easy to say, when they start with inane remarks to ignore them, but that at times is impossible. So, in responding, just make sure you do not address them at the same level they addressed you. Acknowledge them and then go back to the point you were trying to make. Repeat your original thought if necessary. This normally drives the misinformed and illiterate people onto other threads where they can be successful in picking a fight.

I wish you well, and I hope to read your posts in the future.
Hello J, br br It is easy to get angry on this si... (show quote)


Thanks Ginny. I appreciate that alot.

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Mar 31, 2014 06:28:43   #
J Anthony Loc: Connecticut
 
Thank you Ginny. I appreciate that alot.

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Mar 31, 2014 06:43:39   #
hprinze Loc: Central Florida
 
The Dutchman wrote:
J the liberal parasites in here do nothing but attack and attack attempting to turn the topic of any post around. The best thing I have found is to just ignore their crap and press on smartly. I think this annoys them a lot more than entering into a battle of words with the mindless wonders.
For any liberal parasite to enter into a battle of words with a Conservative would be like a soldier going to war without a weapon ....
Their only all to obvious recourse is mindless name calling rants....
Hang in there J and just ignore everything they post!!
J the liberal parasites in here do nothing but att... (show quote)



I agree wholeheartedly that the best way around the parasites and Obama idolizers is to completely ignore them. Don't try to argue with ignorant people, just ignore them, don't reply to their trash, and don't even read their trash. Maybe they will go away if they don't get the attention they crave.

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Mar 31, 2014 09:20:51   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
You are most welcome, and now that I see that you are new; allow me to welcome you. I will look for your posts and hope that we can find areas to discuss. Even when we will disagree, I will keep my own advice in mind and I will always strive to be civil and respect your ideas.

J Anthony wrote:
Thanks Ginny. I appreciate that alot.

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Mar 31, 2014 10:59:57   #
bahmer
 
ginnyt wrote:
Actually we are Hasidic Jew, very Orthodox. Even the ladies still wear wigs in public.

Duckie will be flattered that you remember her. I would love to take the credit for Duckie being as strong as she is, but it is all her. I can say that I am indeed a very blessed old woman!

When you find a synagogue near you, just keep in mind that service is on Saturday; you will be welcomed with warmth and hospitality. Do not worry about anything, the men will guide you. And do not expect anyone to try to preach to you or convert you. Just enjoy yourself. Most of the Orthodox services are very simple. The temple is not ornate, simple and warm. I wish I were closer to you or you closer to us, we would gladly take you with us! And be proud to introduce you to everyone!
Actually we are Hasidic Jew, very Orthodox. Even ... (show quote)


As soon as I go I will let you know how my experience was and I am sure that it will be interesting and fun.

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Mar 31, 2014 11:07:40   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Thank you, I will be interested in your thoughts. Be prepared for someone inviting you to dinner. And be prepared. If you go Orthadox and you take your spouse, warn her NOT to touch any of the men. Not because they do not like touching, you will need to read about it; too long to go into here.

bahmer wrote:
As soon as I go I will let you know how my experience was and I am sure that it will be interesting and fun.

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Mar 31, 2014 11:07:40   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
DUP

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Mar 31, 2014 11:12:16   #
bahmer
 
hprinze wrote:
I agree wholeheartedly that the best way around the parasites and Obama idolizers is to completely ignore them. Don't try to argue with ignorant people, just ignore them, don't reply to their trash, and don't even read their trash. Maybe they will go away if they don't get the attention they crave.


Just picture in your mind a two year old sitting in the middle of the room having a hissy fit over something of little or no consequence. Now with this image in mind you have your typical Obama worshiper. When our children were little and had a tantrum we just let them go until they realized that no one was paying attention to their rantings. After awhile they learned to act civilized and behaved. Maybe these Obama worshipers will learn over time if treated this way although I highly doubt it.

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Mar 31, 2014 11:19:32   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
This would work if they were still capable of learning. Most of these folks do not want to learn, they have completely closed their minds and eyes. Therefore, as long as they have breath they will wail and complain and defend Obama. Sad, but true.

bahmer wrote:
Just picture in your mind a two year old sitting in the middle of the room having a hissy fit over something of little or no consequence. Now with this image in mind you have your typical Obama worshiper. When our children were little and had a tantrum we just let them go until they realized that no one was paying attention to their rantings. After awhile they learned to act civilized and behaved. Maybe these Obama worshipers will learn over time if treated this way although I highly doubt it.

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Mar 31, 2014 12:05:35   #
Blacksheep
 
J Anthony wrote:
In a recent scroll ,"A Lesson In Economics", i lost my temper with an ignorant,insulting poster and got vulgar. To the ignorant,this suggested that i lost the argument. Not so. The ignoramus i lost my patience with was not giving me an argument or any substantial debate. Just insults and propaganda. Any of you who have read any of my previous posts know i am eager for rational discussions about relevant issues and i try, in vain, to reach out to people with different views. I am sorry that i got obscene on what is supposed to be, i think, a civilized forum. But i'm not sorry for the vitriol i spewed at him, the guy deserved it. IGNORANCE IS A HUGE OBSTACLE TOWARD PROGRESS. If you are on this site just to insult people, and not try to communicate on relevant issues, get lost. Some of us are interested in solutions. You want to argue facts, truth, root-causes? Anytime. But that's not what i get from the few ignoramuses on this forum. So i lost my temper. I'm human. But i guess i give the ignorant what they want when i sink to their level. I welcome any suggestions on how to deal with fellow Americans whose minds are closed and hatred strong. Their sheer ignorance is a huge impediment to making things right in this country.
In a recent scroll ,"A Lesson In Economics&q... (show quote)


For my first few weeks here I tried to get reasonable discourse going with some of the antagonists here, but no more. As others have said, some of the people here only want to get into fights and they poke and prod, seeking people's "hot buttons".

Ignoring them is the only tactic. After 2 or 3 failed attempts at goading you into an angry response, they'll give up. It's very telling that they watch the "Introduce Yourself" page and immediately attack any newcomer, aggressively seeking new victims when the regulars have gotten wise to them and no longer reply to them.

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