To avoid being a pawn of Russian political smearing, look at the bigger picture. Obviously, she does not endorse those things. She's been targeted with so many smears since her participation in the Orange revolution that no one believes these anti-Yulia propagandas. She's running in May and is Russia's biggest obstacle because she endorses NATO membership that is a big threat to Russia.
Take a harder look at what she stands for and why it is good for Ukraine and bad for Russia. Then you'll understand the motivation for this conveniently "leaked" tape that coincides with her announcement for the May election.
When Yanukovich fled last month, Kiev parliament released her (he had her jailed on false charges).
One of her campaign pledges is to return Crimea to Ukraine. Now you understand the edited audio tape?
I took the part of the transcript where she said to nuke the 8 million Russians and copied and pasted it onto Babylon translator.com. Since I do not speak Russian I checked this out before posting it. The video is accurate.
UncleJesse wrote:
To avoid being a pawn of Russian political smearing, look at the bigger picture. Obviously, she does not endorse those things. She's been targeted with so many smears since her participation in the Orange revolution that no one believes these anti-Yulia propagandas. She's running in May and is Russia's biggest obstacle because she endorses NATO membership that is a big threat to Russia.
Take a harder look at what she stands for and why it is good for Ukraine and bad for Russia. Then you'll understand the motivation for this conveniently "leaked" tape that coincides with her announcement for the May election.
When Yanukovich fled last month, Kiev parliament released her (he had her jailed on false charges).
One of her campaign pledges is to return Crimea to Ukraine. Now you understand the edited audio tape?
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Don't believe everything you hear about using nuclear weapons in a phone conversation. It is too easily edited.
Take a breath before endorsing something that is anti-Yulia and be skeptical. She is Russia's strategic target because she has the popular support to lead Ukraine and is pro-west.
Patty wrote:
I took the part of the transcript where she said to nuke the 8 million Russians and copied and pasted it onto Babylon translator.com. Since I do not speak Russian I checked this out before posting it. The video is accurate.
Did you miss the whole Nuland leaked conversation also?
This phone calls aren't being denied and have actually come out and tried to make excuses for them. They have been authenticated.
UncleJesse wrote:
Don't believe everything you hear about using nuclear weapons in a phone conversation. It is too easily edited.
Take a breath before endorsing something that is anti-Yulia and be skeptical. She is Russia's strategic target because she has the popular support to lead Ukraine and is pro-west.
Think about who would have the technology to bug the conversation and then whether or not they'd be able to edit it.
Also think about why Yulia is a threat to them.
You may be propagating the attack of a strong woman leader who has the potential to lead Ukraine towards western reforms and stop the Russian beneficiaries who control Ukraine interests. You don't want communists thanking you for being a Snowden-like useful idi*% (you know what).
Patty wrote:
Did you miss the whole Nuland leaked conversation also?
This phone calls aren't being denied and have actually come out and tried to make excuses for them. They have been authenticated.
Jesse she authenticated it through trying to justify it. Of course it was Russia who bugged her phone conversation. Wouldn't you? These dups need to learn that their phones aren't safe any longer and bring back the fine art of smoke signals I think. I got to run my friend. You have a great night.
UncleJesse wrote:
Think about who would have the technology to bug the conversation and then whether or not they'd be able to edit it.
Also think about why Yulia is a threat to them.
You may be propagating the attack of a strong woman leader who has the potential to lead Ukraine towards western reforms and stop the Russian beneficiaries who control Ukraine interests. You don't want communists thanking you for being a Snowden-like useful idi*% (you know what).
Of course not, unless you're the USA, we have executive exemption from all international law. " do as we say, not as we do" are the mission statement of the State department.
Think about who would have the technology to bug the conversation and then whether or not they'd be able to edit it.
Also think about why Yulia is a threat to them.
You may be propagating the attack of a strong woman leader who has the potential to lead Ukraine towards western reforms and stop the Russian beneficiaries who control Ukraine interests. You don't want communists thanking you for being a Snowden-like useful idi*% (you know what).
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It is indeed a relief to find someone that thinks and analysis situations. You are right on the money! You just restored my faith in America's ability to think rather than just believing everything found on YouTube or most of our media, whether television or newspapers.
Of course not, unless you're the USA, we have executive exemption from all international law. " do as we say, not as we do" are the mission statement of the State department.
It was never a question of who bugged her phone. Of course it was Russia. It was the smart thing to do and if you think bugging other peoples phones is some how immoral then with the neo cons bugging everyones phone in the world that really doesn't justify our position very well. Yesterday Turkey when caught planning to bomb their own people as a false flag approach to being Washintons tool to start a war with Syria made the ridiculous statement that it was immoral that their phones were bugged but didn't see the irony in that they didn't see it as immoral to bomb their own people. To me if we are going to be bugged then good I want them bugged also and maybe through further exposure we can stop some of these conspiracies that governments plan to kill their own people.
Thanks and I'm sure there are more folks wise to what's going on.
Happy J wrote:
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It is indeed a relief to find someone that thinks and analysis situations. You are right on the money! You just restored my faith in America's ability to think rather than just believing everything found on YouTube or most of our media, whether television or newspapers.