Barr breifs Trump, the target of the investigation.
Apr 22, 2019 16:14:13 #
Morgan wrote:
My edits were added not confuse but to clarify, so they shouldn't have been a problem.
Perhaps not, but they were. In fact, had I not gone back and read them again, I wouldn’t have seen them at all, so....
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But it went to people using examples of someone who had already been arrested and in a criminal court. This came about when the topic of the attorney's of the president were privy to the report before Congress.
You should know that in our criminal justice system the accused is afforded the right to view any and all evidence against him/her up to and including witness testimony at any time during the process, even though this was a special prosecutor, it is my understanding this still holds true.
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This should not be the case with an impeachment process. The process included reading the full report in order to come to the conclusion of whether a charge is to be made, or not.
These are the differences, to my understanding.
These are the differences, to my understanding.
https://www.brookings.edu/testimonies/attorney-generals-special-counsel-regulations/
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Impeachment defined: Impeachment is the process by which a legislative body levels charges against a government official.
That reach the level of high crimes and misdemeanors, yes. And the Muellar investigation could not get over this hurdle.
As you admitted, you haven’t read the report, so I’m confused as to how you could come to the conclusion that crimes were committed by the president, but none of the professional investigators could do the same. It just appears that you’re upset that there is no there there. I wouldn’t fret so much about it, the democrats are moving on, perhaps you should consider doing the same.
Apr 22, 2019 17:02:00 #
Blade_Runner wrote:
Finding a lib prog capable of logic and reasoning is impossible, bro, such a creature does not exist.
Morgan is either incapable or unwilling to accept the facts surrounding this entire sordid affair. He/she is so far behind the eight ball it is laughable. Pitifully so.
Morgan is either incapable or unwilling to accept the facts surrounding this entire sordid affair. He/she is so far behind the eight ball it is laughable. Pitifully so.
You’ve been here a long time, Blade, have you ever changed a lib progs position on any topic, or seen anyone else do it? I haven’t been here long, but I used to post on another site and only seen it happen once.
Apr 22, 2019 17:15:10 #
The Critical Critic wrote:
Just my 2 cents. I've admitted a few times when I mistakenly posted or stated something that was incorrect, but the division these days between the 2 sides is epic. One side blames Trump because "Orange Man Bad", and the other side is convinced that if we don't mobilize and stay engaged, i.e. lose in 2020, our Nation is toast.You’ve been here a long time, Blade, have you ever changed a lib progs position on any topic, or seen anyone else do it? I haven’t been here long, but I used to post on another site and only seen it happen once.
Apr 22, 2019 17:40:31 #
Michael Rich
Loc: Lapine Oregon
Morgan wrote:
Instead of posting anything creditable of what you speak of, to back up what you say, rather, all you do these days is spew insults.
Theirselves ...really...themselves, did you have a brain fart?
"We run with childish reasons", talk about the pot calling the kettle black, LOL
Theirselves ...really...themselves, did you have a brain fart?
"We run with childish reasons", talk about the pot calling the kettle black, LOL
You call Mueller a good man and know nothing about him....seems fairly dumb.
Apr 22, 2019 19:42:51 #
Fit2BTied wrote:
Just my 2 cents. I've admitted a few times when I mistakenly posted or stated something that was incorrect, but the division these days between the 2 sides is epic. One side blames Trump because "Orange Man Bad", and the other side is convinced that if we don't mobilize and stay engaged, i.e. lose in 2020, our Nation is toast.
Your 2 cents is appreciated, thank you. I guess I was more looking to see if anyone has convinced anyone to change their mind about a given subject. And I totally agree that the divide is this country has reached epic proportions. I think as long as the Constitution remains intact, things will work out, just as they have in the past.
Apr 22, 2019 22:39:19 #
The Critical Critic wrote:
I've been reading your recent posts and I find your patience a good trait. Some posts here are done without a lot of thought. I'm guilty sometimes myself and I know it doesn't help the discourse.Your 2 cents is appreciated, thank you. I guess I was more looking to see if anyone has convinced anyone to change their mind about a given subject. And I totally agree that the divide is this country has reached epic proportions. I think as long as the Constitution remains intact, things will work out, just as they have in the past.
Apr 22, 2019 23:45:08 #
The Critical Critic wrote:
Your 2 cents is appreciated, thank you. I guess I was more looking to see if anyone has convinced anyone to change their mind about a given subject. And I totally agree that the divide is this country has reached epic proportions. I think as long as the Constitution remains intact, things will work out, just as they have in the past.
Even though this site is fixated with Left and Right I continue to believe and know that American Thought is a very broad spectrum. Yes, our country has moved steadily leftward for more than 50 years. My example to prove that is: If John F. Kennedy was alive today and forty years of age he would be considered to be a staunch Conservative. If our young people ever recover the ability to accomplish Critical Thinking, we could start down the road of Recovery. Be Well and Happy..
Apr 23, 2019 16:04:26 #
Apr 23, 2019 16:26:21 #
byronglimish wrote:
You call Mueller a good man and know nothing about him....seems fairly dumb.
I see and you know him personally, and what is in his closets? Mueller was fine with Trump until he hadn't cleared him and then typically he's put on the Trump slander hit list, and you follow right instep.
I know of his record, Mueller is a widely praised figure on Capitol Hill, having served as the FBI director under Presidents George W. Bush and Obama, with backing from both sides of the aisle. Somehow, now you think he deserves to be maligned. Loyalty to this person rather to your country is very misguided.
Apr 23, 2019 16:40:02 #
The Critical Critic wrote:
That reach the level of i high crimes and misdeme... (show quote)
First I never said that, I never came to a conclusion. What I addressed and only that, once again for the third time, was that the Mueller report should have been given to Congress at the same time it was handed to Barr. Or at the very least the same time the White House and Trump's attorney's received it.
Once again this was not a criminal court, no charges were administered. The president does not go through a criminal court. This was the whole purpose of Congress reviewing the report in its unredacted entirety, after the completion of reviewing the report, Congress would then decide if it warranted charges or not and whether or not to go forward with the impeachment process. I thought this was all very clear, there is no other way for me to say it I don't know where you confusion is. This is why I also defined what an impeachment is.
Apr 23, 2019 16:42:18 #
Morgan wrote:
I see and you know him personally, and what is in ... (show quote)
Robert Mueller's forgotten surveillance crime spree
Former FBI Director Robert Mueller’s History of Cover-Ups
HuffPo: No, Robert Mueller And James Comey Aren’t Heroes
HERE’S THE LIST: Shady, Corrupt and Possible Criminal Activities and Scandals Surrounding Special Counsel Robert Mueller
Robert Mueller’s Questionable Past
LATimes: As he investigates Trump's aides, Robert Mueller's record shows surprising flaws
Apr 23, 2019 16:48:22 #
Blade_Runner wrote:
Yeah he was so awful Trump's own AG selected him along with the two previous presidents, that's enough of a A+reference for me. Give it a rest, for each of your links I could put up ten in reverse, a waste of time.
Apr 23, 2019 16:52:17 #
Morgan wrote:
There, I fixed it. He held important offices, so he must be above reproach. Mueller is a widely praised swamp denizen
Apr 23, 2019 16:55:08 #
Morgan wrote:
Trump's "own" AG? Rosenstein? Put down the crack pipe!Yeah he was so awful Trump's own AG selected him along with the two previous presidents, that's enough of a A+reference for me. Give it a rest, for each of your links I could put up ten in reverse, a waste of time.
Apr 23, 2019 16:58:54 #
Morgan wrote:
OK, put 'em up or shut up.Yeah he was so awful Trump's own AG selected him along with the two previous presidents, that's enough of a A+reference for me. Give it a rest, for each of your links I could put up ten in reverse, a waste of time.
Facts are facts. Whatever links you put up won't change the fact that Mueller is not the paragon of principle, integrity, honor, virtue, and American justice you want him to be.
BTW: Rosenstein was appointed Deputy AG, Trump nominated him, but obviously he is not a Trump loyalist.
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