I don't think you do, I stated it can be changed..and somehow because you told how to change that is tantamount to saying it can't be. Thus proving you're running on one brain cell. My choice of words were hyperbole, which you also, don't seem to understand, so I'll simplify it for you:

1. Just because I agree that the constitution needs to be changed, doesn't mean it will be.
2. Just because I know how to change it, doesn't mean I ALONE can change it.
3. The electoral college needs to go away, it is unnecessary in our day and age. It's not a communist plot to change it or even a left or right issue.
4. Elimination of electoral college doesn't eliminate the number of representatives per
state, it selects the president.
5. The Electoral College was created for two reasons. ... The first reason that the founders created the Electoral College is hard to understand today. The founding fathers were afraid of direct election to the Presidency. They feared a tyrant could manipulate public opinion and come to power.

I explained that the popular vote should be recognized, then my vote counts and so does yours.

I got news for you if you really want to make a difference why don't you join the convention of states try to get a few more States involve so we can actually start creating term limits and start writing Constitutional Amendments again or abolishing and whichever one you choose but that's what the convention of states is Ford's to get the Federal government out of our lives forever Article 5 of The Constitution gives us those rights to hold what they call a constitutional convention where are all the states get together and thereby ratify an amendment to the Constitution and it sent to Congress and Senate and sent back out to the states to be passed by 75% of the population and then there you have it!

I don't think you do, I stated it can be changed..and somehow because you told how to change that is tantamount to saying it can't be. Thus proving you're running on one brain cell. My choice of words were hyperbole, which you also, don't seem to understand, so I'll simplify it for you:

1. Just because I agree that the constitution needs to be changed, doesn't mean it will be.
2. Just because I know how to change it, doesn't mean I ALONE can change it.
3. The electoral college needs to go away, it is unnecessary in our day and age. It's not a communist plot to change it or even a left or right issue.
4. Elimination of electoral college doesn't eliminate the number of representatives per
state, it selects the president.
5. The Electoral College was created for two reasons. ... The first reason that the founders created the Electoral College is hard to understand today. The founding fathers were afraid of direct election to the Presidency. They feared a tyrant could manipulate public opinion and come to power.

I explained that the popular vote should be recognized, then my vote counts and so does yours.

For a start...

1) We have 50 separate independent state elections. Not one national election in part due to the electoral college. Very hard to rig 50 state elections. I fear consolidation of power to the few in Washington.

2) It would be much easier to rig one national election. If a city, county or state becomes corrupt and overbearing you can easily move to the next city, county or state. Not so if the corruption is national. I fear corruption and fraud on a national level.

3) We are not a democracy. We are a constitutional republic. We are governed by the constitution not by the tyranny of the majority. Any minority should fear rule of the majority.

OK, democrats.

We'll scrap the electoral college in exchange for allowing a sitting president to be exempt from term limits as long as he maintains the popular vote.

The popular vote is what you want, right ?

I find that to be rather peculiar when you consider that you democrat folks just ain't very popular right now.

I've asked several of you here on OPP just exactly who you support in 2020.

So far, none of you have stepped up and proclaimed your champion.

So if you think you're gonna retake the Whitehouse with the popular vote, just exactly who in the heck do you have that's more 'popular' than Trump ?

Simple question, and someone has already brought this up, the electoral college is utilized to select a president, and disposes votes that are less than 50%, why is that ok when a Republican is elected, but not the other way around?

Since the president has checks and balances in place (even though, it seems like every Republican has done everything to remove that), the electoral college is unnecessary. I personally think that Trump would have won the popular vote, I think it assured Trump voters in atypical Democratic districts that their vote wouldn't count, hence why I keep saying 49%.

They don't even want everyone to show up on voting day, everyone acts like they do, but look at where early voting is allowed...it's a bigger mess every year. So yea, I WANT TO SCRAP THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE, IT'S WASTE OF MONEY AND DILUTES OR ELIMINATES VOTES. WHY DO YOU WANT THAT? IT MAKES NOT SENSE.

"Whatever be the Constitution, great care must be taken to provide a mode of amendment when experience or change of circumstances shall have manifested that any part of it is unadapted to the good of the nation. In some of our States it requires a new authority from the whole people, acting by their representatives, chosen for this express purpose, and assembled in convention. This is found too difficult for remedying the imperfections which experience develops from time to time in an organization of the first impression. A greater facility of ammendment is certainly requisite to maintain it in a course of action accommodated to the times and changes through which we are ever passing." --Thomas Jefferson to A. Coray, 1823. ME 15:488
"Time and changes in the condition and constitution of society may require occasional and corresponding modifications." --Thomas Jefferson to Edward Livingston, 1825. ME 16:113

"Nothing is more likely than that [the] enumeration of powers is defective. This is the ordinary case of all human works. Let us then go on perfecting it by adding by way of amendment to the Constitution those powers which time and trial show are still wanting." --Thomas Jefferson to Wilson Nicholas, 1803. ME 10:419

"Though we may say with confidence, that the worst of the American constitutions is better than the best which ever existed before in any other country, and that they are wonderfully perfect for a first essay, yet every human essay must have defects. It will remain, therefore, to those now coming on the stage of public affairs, to perfect what has been so well begun by those going off it." --Thomas Jefferson to T. M. Randolph, Jr., 1787. ME 6:165

"We must be contented to travel on towards perfection, step by step. We must be contented with the ground which [the new] Constitution will gain for us, and hope that a favorable moment will come for correcting what is amiss in it." --Thomas Jefferson to the Count de Moustier, 1788. ME 7:13

"To secure the ground we gain, and gain what more we can, is, I think, the wisest course." --Thomas Jefferson to George Mason, 1790. ME 8:35

"Our government wanted bracing. Still, we must take care not to run from one extreme to another; not to brace too high." --Thomas Jefferson to Edward Rutledge, 1788. ME 7:81

"This peaceable and legitimate resource [i.e., amendment], to which we are in the habit of implicit obedience, superseding all appeal to force and being always within our reach, shows a precious principle of self-preservation in our composition, till a change of circumstances shall take place, which is not within prospect at any definite period." --Thomas Jefferson to Joseph Priestley, 1801. ME 10:230

16.1 The Right to Change a Constitution
"We have always a right to correct ancient errors and to establish what is more conformable to reason and convenience." -- Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1801. FE 8:82

"We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors." --Thomas Jefferson to Samuel Kercheval, 1816. ME 15:41

"[The European] monarchs instead of wisely yielding to the gradual change of circumstances, of favoring progressive accommodation to progressive improvement, have clung to old abuses, entrenched themselves behind steady habits and obliged their subjects to seek through blood and violence rash and ruinous innovations which, had they been referred to the peaceful deliberations and collected wisdom of the nation, would have been put into acceptable and salutary forms. Let us follow no such examples nor weakly believe that one generation is not as capable as another of taking care of itself and of ordering its own affairs. Let us... avail ourselves of our reason and experience to correct the crude essays of our first and unexperienced although wise, virtuous, and well-meaning councils." --Thomas Jefferson to Samuel Kercheval, 1816. ME 15:41

"[Algernon Sidney wrote in Discourses Concerning Government, Sect. II, Par 13,] 'All human constitutions are subject to corruption and must perish unless they are timely renewed and reduced to their first principles.'" --Thomas Jefferson: copied into his Commonplace Book.

"I have found here [in America] a philosophic revolution, philosophically effected." --Thomas Jefferson to Comtesse d'Houdetot, 1790. ME 8:15

"Happy for us that when we find our constitutions defective and insufficient to secure the happiness of our people, we can assemble with all the coolness of philosophers and set it to rights, while every other nation on earth must have recourse to arms to amend or to restore their constitutions." --Thomas Jefferson to C. W. F. Dumas, 1787. ME 6:295, Papers 12:113

"The European governments have resisted reformation until the people, seeing no other resource, undertake it themselves by force, their only weapon, and work it out through blood, desolation and long-continued anarchy. Here it will be by large fragments breaking off, and refusing re-union but on condition of amendment, or perhaps permanently." --Thomas Jefferson to Robert J. Garnett, 1824. ME 16:15

"A schism in our Union... would be an incurable evil, because near friends falling out, never re-unite cordially; whereas, all of us going together, we shall be sure to cure the evils of our new Constitution, before they do great harm." --Thomas Jefferson to Alexander Donald, 1788. ME 6:426

"Happy for us that abuses have not yet become patrimonies, and that every description of interest is in favor of rational and moderate government. That we are yet able to send our wise and good men together to talk over our form of government, discuss its weaknesses and establish its remedies with the same sang-froid as they would a subject of agriculture." --Thomas Jefferson to Ralph Izard, 1788. ME 7:72, Papers 13:373

"The example of changing a constitution by assembling the wise men of the State instead of assembling armies will be worth as much to the world as the former examples we had given them." --Thomas Jefferson to David Humphreys, 1789. ME 7:322

"I willingly acquiesce in the institutions of my country, perfect or imperfect, and think it a duty to leave their modifications to those who are to live under them and are to participate of the good or evil they may produce. The present generation has the same right of self-government which the past one has exercised for itself." --Thomas Jefferson to John Hampden Pleasants, 1824. ME 16:29

"My wish is to offend nobody; to leave to those who are to live under it, the settlement of their own constitution." --Thomas Jefferson to Samuel Kercheval, 1816. ME 15:70

"We have not yet so far perfected our constitutions as to venture to make them unchangeable. But still, in their present state, we consider them not otherwise changeable than by the authority of the people on a special election of representatives for that purpose expressly. They are until then the lex legum." --Thomas Jefferson to John Cartwright, 1824. ME 16:47

"Our children will be as wise as we are and will establish in the fulness of time those things not yet ripe for establishment." --Thomas Jefferson to John Tyler, 1810. ME 12:394

"The generation which is going off the stage has deserved well of mankind for the struggles it has made and for having arrested that course of despotism which had overwhelmed the world for thousands and thousands of years. If there seems to be danger that the ground they have gained will be lost again, that danger comes from the [upcoming] generation. But that the enthusiasm which characterizes youth should lift its parricide hands against freedom and science would be such a monstrous phenomenon as I cannot place among possible things in this age and this country." --Thomas Jefferson to William Green Munford, 1799.