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“Keep Moving, folks. No White Nationalism here” says Trump and the GOP after NZ and now four Black churches were burned
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Apr 10, 2019 16:52:26   #
rumitoid
 
cSc61 wrote:
These are all white supremacists. Only lefties are confused about the difference.


Seriously, did you bother to look at those sites?

The first feature story is centered on White Nationalism at https://dailystormer.name

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/ says by way of introduction: “We are White Nationalists who support true diversity and a homeland for all peoples, including ours. We are the voice of the new, embattled White minority!

Both outright call themselves White Nationalists. You are appear to be confused or don't want facts to cloud your judgment.

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Apr 10, 2019 17:03:02   #
cSc61 Loc: Austin
 
rumitoid wrote:
Seriously, did you bother to look at those sites?

The first feature story is centered on White Nationalism at https://dailystormer.name

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/ says by way of introduction: “We are White Nationalists who support true diversity and a homeland for all peoples, including ours. We are the voice of the new, embattled White minority!

Both outright call themselves White Nationalists. You are appear to be confused or don't want facts to cloud your judgment.
Seriously, did you bother to look at those sites? ... (show quote)


Dude, here's the headline of the article you reference: "Congressional Kikes Call in a Gang of Bloodsucking Coloreds to Demand Extermination of Whites" How can you possibly take that seriously or not consider that "white supremacist" language? I'm sorry, I think you entire argument is unsound.

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Apr 10, 2019 17:34:55   #
rumitoid
 
cSc61 wrote:
Dude, here's the headline of the article you reference: "Congressional Kikes Call in a Gang of Bloodsucking Coloreds to Demand Extermination of Whites" How can you possibly take that seriously or not consider that "white supremacist" language? I'm sorry, I think you entire argument is unsound.


My argument IS unsound--when you fail to recognize or comment on https://www.stormfront.org/forum/ says by way of introduction: “We are White Nationalists who support true diversity and a homeland for all peoples, including ours. We are the voice of the new, embattled White minority!"
How do you explain away what they claim about themselves?

Dude, you also forgot to mention part of that headline: it was at the White Nationalist Hearings.

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Apr 10, 2019 17:42:43   #
cSc61 Loc: Austin
 
rumitoid wrote:
My argument IS unsound--when you fail to recognize or comment on https://www.stormfront.org/forum/ says by way of introduction: “We are White Nationalists who support true diversity and a homeland for all peoples, including ours. We are the voice of the new, embattled White minority!"


You conveniently leave off the preamble: "We are a community of racial realists and idealists." Which is just flowery language that screams "We are racists!"

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Apr 10, 2019 17:54:48   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
cSc61 wrote:
Dude, here's the headline of the article you reference: "Congressional Kikes Call in a Gang of Bloodsucking Coloreds to Demand Extermination of Whites" How can you possibly take that seriously or not consider that "white supremacist" language? I'm sorry, I think you entire argument is unsound.


Wow, you just refuse to face facts don't you? Okay why don't we explore the meanings of "white nationalist" and "white nationalism"?

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/white%20nationalist

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_nationalism

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/white-nationalism

http://dictionary.sensagent.com/White%20nationalism/en-en/

https://www.definitions.net/definition/white+nationalism

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/ideology/white-nationalist

https://www.cjr.org/language_corner/nationalist-supremacist.php

How about some links from a "white nationalist 'Wikipedia'"?

https://en.metapedia.org/wiki/White_nationalism

https://en.metapedia.org/wiki/White_nationalist_novels

Now there IS a variant that you claim matches the definition of "white nationalist" and "white nationalism".

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nationalism

You know what makes the difference between "nationalism" and "white nationalism"? Yes, the "white" part, that is what makes it racist.

Next time get a clue BEFORE you start arguing stupidly.

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Apr 10, 2019 18:17:59   #
cSc61 Loc: Austin
 
White nationalism is racist. Pride in one's country is not. I should have worded my argument better: a sector of society is trying to paint all patriots (especially white European patriots) as fascist, white supremacists. First Obama said all we want to do is cling to our Bibles and guns. Then, Pelosi calls border security immoral. Now, revisionists are trying to get the country to believe all white patriots are closet racists. It's just not true. White nationalism = white supremacy and has nothing to do with patriotism, honoring the flag, or loyalty to the Constitution and rule of law.

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Apr 10, 2019 18:27:34   #
cSc61 Loc: Austin
 
rumitoid wrote:
“We are White Nationalists who support true diversity and a homeland for all peoples, including ours. We are the voice of the new, embattled White minority!"


Classic white supremacy rhetoric. And I think you know that. If white nationalism exists, and it appears it does, it's just a re-branding of white supremacy. And this is the brush being used to paint all patriots. Question I've asked myself is, why? When did pride for one's country become a bad thing? The same time Dems started calling border security (aka wall building) immoral. And pretty much the same time Dems started calling for the lowering of the voting age to 16. Huh ... now what could that possibly be all about.

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Apr 10, 2019 18:37:44   #
Rose42
 
cSc61 wrote:
Classic white supremacy rhetoric. And I think you know that. If white nationalism exists, and it appears it does, it's just a re-branding of white supremacy. And this is the brush being used to paint all patriots. Question I've asked myself is, why? When did pride for one's country become a bad thing? The same time Dems started calling border security (aka wall building) immoral. And pretty much the same time Dems started calling for the lowering of the voting age to 16. Huh ... now what could that possibly be all about.
Classic white supremacy rhetoric. And I think you... (show quote)


Its the same idea as calling pro-abortion pro-choice to make it more palatable. People who use propaganda know exactly what they're doing. Look how successful they've been using white nationalist. How many have you seen parrot that term without thinking about where it came from? A list of wikipedia links and the increasingly useless SPLC isn't a substitute for people using their brains.

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Apr 10, 2019 18:54:16   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
cSc61 wrote:
White nationalism is racist. Pride in one's country is not. I should have worded my argument better: a sector of society is trying to paint all patriots (especially white European patriots) as fascist, white supremacists. First Obama said all we want to do is cling to our Bibles and guns. Then, Pelosi calls border security immoral. Now, revisionists are trying to get the country to believe all white patriots are closet racists. It's just not true. White nationalism = white supremacy and has nothing to do with patriotism, honoring the flag, or loyalty to the Constitution and rule of law.
White nationalism is racist. Pride in one's count... (show quote)


Yes, nationalism and patriotism is a great thing, "white nationalism" is essentially nothing more than "white supremacy" and shouldn't be condoned.

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