Viral wrote:
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No we teaparty people are at war with the liberals and totalitarians and Boehner, Mccain, Cantor, Romney, Christy are worse than Reid, Pelosi, Fienstein because they're traitors to their constituents. We know what the leftist are they admit it. Well if ya listen and watch you'll see the Globalist and we are Nationalists.
son of witless wrote:
Viral, and Ginger,
You two make two points which are wrong. First you say that Republicans control the purse strings and can unfund any spending they want so therefore they are to blame for the out of control spending. Then you say they shut down the government.
If the two of you cannot see how those two statements contradict one another then I put you into the category of the rest of the irrational leftists who haunt this board.
You say they control the purse strings and can stop any spending they want. They wanted to stop spending on Obamacare. they funded all other programs. Obama ORDERED, he ORDERED everything to be shut down until the Obamacare funding was restored. So I guess they really do not control spending.
They funded every other program and Obama ordered those programs to be shut down until obamacare money was restored. That means the money was there for everything except obamacare yet everything shut down.
So the next time you two want to challenge what I say try bringing facts to the table.
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Maybe you should check it out yourself. Obama did not shut down the government. And it wasn't a case of defunding. Obamacare was a law. They wanted him to veto the law. Since it was a law already, it was funded already. The only way to defund was to get it vetoed. That is why they blamed him. He would not veto his own law. Would you? I know all of you are pissy about Obamacare right now, but I bet in a couple years you are all going to be as happy with it as most are with medicare.
ginger wrote:
Maybe you should check it out yourself. Obama did not shut down the government. And it wasn't a case of defunding. Obamacare was a law. They wanted him to veto the law. Since it was a law already, it was funded already. The only way to defund was to get it vetoed. That is why they blamed him. He would not veto his own law. Would you? I know all of you are pissy about Obamacare right now, but I bet in a couple years you are all going to be as happy with it as most are with medicare.
Your making yourself seem dumb. A law can't be vetoed. Not all laws are funded nor enforced. This post is a jumbled mess. Others have clearly explained how bills become laws. The rolls of the legislative process and you still only seem capable of saying "republicans shut down the government that guy on Leno said so and he's a republican". You better pay more attention or at least stop voting because you don't know which way is up.
If this is true then there should be record of said ORDER.
I have testimony from a Republican, you have hearsay (unless there's some EO floating out there that proves your assertion).
It is possible to blame the Democrats for not accepting a bill that defunded their signature legislation. But did you really expect Senate Democrats and the President to just bail on it because Republicans refused to just fund everything? That is simply not reasonable to expect. It'd be like jabbing a fork into an electrical socket and expecting not to get zapped, what did you think was going to happen?
Regardless, the responsibility battle was already fought and lost by Republicans. Time to pick up, dust off, and move on already.
As far as being at war with your fellows... That's just a shame and is clearly the opposite direction this country needs to move. A house divided against itself cannot stand.
son of witless wrote:
Viral, and Ginger,
You two make two points which are wrong. First you say that Republicans control the purse strings and can unfund any spending they want so therefore they are to blame for the out of control spending. Then you say they shut down the government.
If the two of you cannot see how those two statements contradict one another then I put you into the category of the rest of the irrational leftists who haunt this board.
You say they control the purse strings and can stop any spending they want. They wanted to stop spending on Obamacare. they funded all other programs. Obama ORDERED, he ORDERED everything to be shut down until the Obamacare funding was restored. So I guess they really do not control spending.
They funded every other program and Obama ordered those programs to be shut down until obamacare money was restored. That means the money was there for everything except obamacare yet everything shut down.
So the next time you two want to challenge what I say try bringing facts to the table.
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scottyb wrote:
The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. But how could you know?
Why in the heck would anyone other than a complete idiot fear a fictional character?
Wisdom comes through knowledge and experience not from believing in fictional characters scotty.
ginger wrote:
Maybe you should check it out yourself. Obama did not shut down the government. And it wasn't a case of defunding. Obamacare was a law. They wanted him to veto the law. Since it was a law already, it was funded already. The only way to defund was to get it vetoed. That is why they blamed him. He would not veto his own law. Would you? I know all of you are pissy about Obamacare right now, but I bet in a couple years you are all going to be as happy with it as most are with medicare.
Ginger,
I can put the facts in front of you, but I cannot give an understanding of them to you when you deny them. You are saying that Obama could not keep the rest of the government open because Obamacare was not funded. Why? ? ? The rest of the government was funded, so it could have been opened, BUT YOUR GUY Barak ordered the Government closed. He did not have to veto Obamacare. It just would not have been carried out.
Before you say that is illegal, I point out that your guy Barak picks laws he does not enforce all of the time. No Barak shut down the government.
ginger wrote:
Why God fearing? I was taught that God loves us, so why do you fear Him? What did you do that you have to fear God?
An interesting question...
Steve700 wrote:
This is the only thing you can find to dispute in my statement & I'll ans that 4 U. His love for us is not eternally unconditional. He gave us laws 4 R own good. (proof He loves us) It's because I fear Him & the consequences that I keep the Commandment. Neither He nor I want to have to live with the degenerates, who lie, cheat, steal etc. in the afterlife that will be his gift to the rightious. We are ALL indeed F---ed up & in need of salvation. Time to realize that before it's to late.
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So, is your own father as petty and cruel as your Heavenly Father? Would your own father throw you into fire, and watch as you suffer, because you didn't obey him?
ginger wrote:
Your problem with out of control spending. The President can not spend one cent. All spending goes through the republican majority House. Don't believe me, evidently I'm ignorant. Check it out for yourself.
24 billion to shut down the government, 3 million to defend doma, about 2 million per committee meeting about Benghazi, IRS, Fast & Furious and anything else.
True...and a lot of the $$$ Obama has spent was for cleaning up 8 years of George W. Bush's excesses, but The Rightwingbots hardly ever remember that.
ginger wrote:
Ted Cruz is the one who pushed to shut down the government. He wanted to extort the president, saying if you don't drop obamacare we shut down the government. Then they blamed the president like they do for everything. I watched Ted Cruz on the Senate floor pretty much calling the republicans and telling them if they didn't go along with him he would work with his buddies the Koch brothers to get them out of office.
Ted Cruz is a Democrat? :shock:
"son of witless" is aptly named... :lol:
Terry Allan Hall wrote:
True...and a lot of the $$$ Obama has spent was for cleaning up 8 years of George W. Bush's excesses, but The Rightwingbots hardly ever remember that.
$ 7 Trillion to clean up after George W. Bush. Wow, who knew? You Obamabots are just a treasure trove of information.
son of witless wrote:
$ 7 Trillion to clean up after George W. Bush. Wow, who knew? You Obamabots are just a treasure trove of information.
Again, the name name you hide behind is an excellent choice. :thumbup:
Terry Allan Hall wrote:
Again, the name name you hide behind is an excellent choice. :thumbup:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :thumbup:
Terry Allan Hall wrote:
Again, the name name you hide behind is an excellent choice. :thumbup:
Your reading comprehension is about on par with your brethren. You brought up the name. I made a follow up comment. I hide in plain sight. You obviously are filled with hatred towards right thinking people. Wrong thinking people are more your speed.
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