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Mar 30, 2019 10:17:52   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
No one called Jews nasty or stupid...

Your logic is unclear...

Illegal immigrants are a danger because they lack vaccinations, even though they should have been vaccinated....But Orthodox Jews are not dangerous... Even though they too lack vaccinations and are currently suffering an epidemic.... From Israel according to your second source....


If you can follow this....... you must be exposed to the disease, in this case measles, to become infected. The virus lives in the mucus of the nose and throat of an infected child or adult. Unvaccinated individuals exposed to a measles patient has a higher than a 90% chance of being infected. The Jews in question, live in close knit communities and rarely get exposed to measles.... no exposure, no risk. Yes, the outbreak in NY was from a family of Jews and they did bring it back from Israel who up until recently had zero cases of measles. However, that family does not account for the outbreaks in Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Georgia, Illinois, Kentucky, Michigan, Missouri, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Oregon, Texas, and Washington, unless this family decided on doing a road trip 4 days before they became symptomatic to 4 days after the rash appeared. Yet, the news is only reporting the outbreak of measles in NY......

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Mar 30, 2019 10:27:03   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Pennylynn wrote:
If you can follow this....... you must be exposed to the disease, in this case measles, to become infected. The virus lives in the mucus of the nose and throat of an infected child or adult. Unvaccinated individuals exposed to a measles patient has a higher than a 90% chance of being infected. The Jews in question, live in close knit communities and rarely get exposed to measles.... no exposure, no risk. Yes, the outbreak in NY was from a family of Jews and they did bring it back from Israel who up until recently had zero cases of measles. However, that family does not account for the outbreaks in Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Georgia, Illinois, Kentucky, Michigan, Missouri, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Oregon, Texas, and Washington, unless this family decided on doing a road trip 4 days before they became symptomatic to 4 days after the rash appeared. Yet, the news is only reporting the outbreak of measles in NY......
If you can follow this....... you must be exposed ... (show quote)


The New York Times is Reporting the news in New York

I for one am shocked...

Seems to me these tight nit communities interact as part of the larger community... Or do they bar non-Jews from their areas?

I agree that the other areas deserve coverage as well...

Still don't see this as anyone placing blame on the Jews... Should it go unreported?

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Mar 30, 2019 10:37:47   #
Curmudgeon
 
If you had learned to read you would now know that I referred to those opposing vaccines as religious OR stupid. I nowhere referred to "stupid Jews." After you made that error you went on to prove my point. Yes, there are lots of organizations vaccinating those in Central and South America. If they were able to vaccinate all, you would have made my point. But they aren't able to reach everyone or even a majority of those who need them. Many do arrive here unvaccinated. So when ICE catches them, the first thing they should do, even before they tear their kids from their arms, is vaccinate them. But the Trump administration doesn't want them healthy or safe because they would take away one of his idiotic talking points at his meaningless rallies.

As far as the Jewish participation in this problem goes, yes, I believe they are wrong in their refusal to provide safe healthcare to their people, thereby endangering those they come in contact with. But this is a small sect and not all Jews. Just like child predators are a small segment of Catholic believers,(mostly priests), just like terrorists are a small segment of Muslim society. One will find groups of fanatics in every religion.

But to get back to the point, the people who refuse vaccination, no matter what religion or other affiliation are stupid and dangerous. This is a fact because they affect not only their own but all they come in contact with, thereby creating a danger to all society. In doing that they are actually engaging in what amounts to a criminal act. Let society take it from there.

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Mar 30, 2019 19:44:54   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Pennylynn wrote:
You are incorrect... UNICEF has been providing free medical care to include vaccinations to Central America from the 1950s. I know this as a fact, my cousin is a doctor and has gone to Latin America/Caribbean to deliver and administer vaccinations from the time he was an intern, and continues to make yearly trips.

So, you contend that illegals present no health concerns because "once they get here they get vaccinated." So, everyone who enters the US, other than those nasty stupid Jews, are vaccinated..... then explain how we can have uncounted/unprocessed illegals in the US.... I guess ICE does nothing but play cards all day because they are not stopping hundreds of individuals who prefer not to go through border control every day. So, we may want to tell homeland security that there are not an issue at the border. Nice to know that the whole issue are those "stupid Jews." Although measles was almost eradicated (even among stupid Jews) until around 2001....
You are incorrect... UNICEF has been providing fre... (show quote)




Sad to say, we never did get rid of Measles, but we were so close..

This is long for a post so only part of it but follow the link if desired.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00001999.htm

Current Trends Measles --- United States, 1990

Estimated incidence rates were higher in 1990 than in 1989 for all age groups, except 15- to 19-year-olds. The largest increases in incidence rates were among children less than 1 year of age (137.6%) and adults greater than or equal to 25 years of age (130.0%). The highest incidence rates were among children aged less than 1 year (119.3 per 100,000) and 1--4 years (58.3 per 100,000).

Information on race/ethnicity was available for 11,083 (40.1%) cases reported from 34 states and the District of Columbia (no race/ethnicity information was available for cases reported from the other 15 states, including California). Of these, 6192 (55.9%) occurred among non-Hispanic whites; 2472 (22.3%), non-Hispanic blacks; 2082 (18.8%), Hispanics; and 337 (3.0%), other racial or ethnic groups. Incidence rates were highest for Hispanics (29.5 cases per 100,000 population) and blacks (12.3 per 100,000) and lowest for non-Hispanic whites (5.2 per 100,000).

Importations from other countries accounted for 377 (1.4%) cases; an additional 188 (0.7%) cases were epidemiologically linked within two generations of transmission to imported cases. Of the 377 cases, 249 (66.0%) were acquired in Mexico, and 95 (25.2%) in other Central American, South American, or Caribbean countries. Outbreaks

A total of 240 outbreaks, involving from five to 7514 persons, accounted for 87.0% of the cases. Outbreaks affecting predominantly preschool-aged children involved 19,827 (71.7%) cases; school-aged persons, 2842 (10.3%) cases; and postschool-aged persons, 1376 (5.0%) cases. The largest outbreaks involved predominantly preschool-aged children and occurred in Los Angeles (7514 cases); Dallas (2331); New York City (1108); San Diego (1049); and Bakersfield/Kern County, California (1011). These outbreaks accounted for 47.0% of all cases reported for 1990. Vaccination Status

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Mar 30, 2019 19:53:36   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Pennylynn wrote:
If you can follow this....... you must be exposed to the disease, in this case measles, to become infected. The virus lives in the mucus of the nose and throat of an infected child or adult. Unvaccinated individuals exposed to a measles patient has a higher than a 90% chance of being infected. The Jews in question, live in close knit communities and rarely get exposed to measles.... no exposure, no risk. Yes, the outbreak in NY was from a family of Jews and they did bring it back from Israel who up until recently had zero cases of measles. However, that family does not account for the outbreaks in Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Georgia, Illinois, Kentucky, Michigan, Missouri, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Oregon, Texas, and Washington, unless this family decided on doing a road trip 4 days before they became symptomatic to 4 days after the rash appeared. Yet, the news is only reporting the outbreak of measles in NY......
If you can follow this....... you must be exposed ... (show quote)



NY got the coverage because they banned unvaccinated people from any public place..

A bit extreme, do you like that solution?



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Apr 1, 2019 22:06:34   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
jimpack123 wrote:
everyone should be able to express there opinions. It is when weasles like Trump try to distort peoples opinions and spread hate filled messages that the good old USA will cease to exist


How do you to get Trump with a conversation on measles and Jewish people??? Only weak minded people need to worry about being miss lead the rest of us make up our own mind thank you

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Apr 1, 2019 22:07:23   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
permafrost wrote:
NY got the coverage because they banned unvaccinated people from any public place..

A bit extreme, do you like that solution?


How can they tell who is and who isnt?

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Apr 2, 2019 08:36:11   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
bggamers wrote:
How can they tell who is and who isnt?



I would say that is one of the things that make extreme and also near useless..

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Apr 2, 2019 08:46:28   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
permafrost wrote:
I would say that is one of the things that make extreme and also near useless..


no kidding where do they come up with these crazy ideas

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Apr 2, 2019 09:14:15   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
bggamers wrote:
no kidding where do they come up with these crazy ideas



In this case, I think the most local government.. Township or city...




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Apr 3, 2019 16:37:11   #
GmanTerry
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
A touch of reality my friend. Immigrant families come here unvaccinated because they can't get vaccines where they are coming from. Like most of our grandparents, once they get here they get vaccinated. There are however, certain groups living in this country that for religious reasons or just plain stupidity refuse to be vaccinated.I say stupidity because almost all of the scientific objections have long ago been dismissed. So those groups that refuse vaccination, not those who haven't, because it was not available, been vaccinated, are the ones who are responsible for spreading disease and death. Unfortunately, historically, certain Jewish sects have been among the loudest protestors in this field and they must take the responsibility, not some poor immigrant who never got a chance to get the vaccine.
A touch of reality my friend. Immigrant families c... (show quote)


You missed the point. If the alien invaders came here the proper way, they would either have been vaccinated or rejected. It is just being pointed out that this is yet another danger to Americans because the Demunists welcome the invaders as future Demunist voters .

Semper Fi

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