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Mar 11, 2019 17:28:16   #
woodguru
 
archie bunker wrote:
My wife is 1/2 German, 1/2 Irish, and I love me some spuds! Fry up some cabbage in bacon grease with some onions, and I'm a happy camper! I just can't do the (ulp) sour kind.
We get along pretty well!


We just had potato pancakes last week with applesauce and sour cream on them. We eat all kinds of weird things we enjoy.

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Mar 11, 2019 17:37:08   #
bdamage Loc: My Bunker
 
byronglimish wrote:
I hope that bracket has a choice of weapon round.

Maybe drop down to a "sore losers consultation bracket,.... round robin"..


I think I'm going to go with number one seed Hillary and my long shot number 8 seed Bernie for the Gallo round.

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Mar 11, 2019 17:38:14   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
So, "Make America Great AGAIN" does NOT imply that it isn't great now? Would love an explanation as to what you make of that. You can't make something great again if it is already great, greater maybe, just not great. Was the campaign slogan "Make America GREATER Again"? Pretty sure all the posters said "great" not "greater.


Make America Great Again became an election cry. Since then, it has become a symbol of patriots who are part of America's traditionalism, and is hated by liberals, i.e. adults attack minors for wearing the red MAGA hat, hats have been jerked off of heads, MAGA shirts have been PhotoShop'd out of school pictures, seniors have been physically attacked for the wearing of the hat, and lawsuits have been filed in order to protect the first amendment.
But, I agree, for 2020, the new red hat should say MATGA...Make America The Greatest Again

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Mar 11, 2019 17:47:07   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
PJT wrote:
Common Sense...every GOP I know does NOT think SS is socialism.
Because you say Reps. Regard Soc. Sec. as socialism doesn't make it true.


Funny how Republicans are always threatening to cut it back if they KNOW that is is an earned benefit, not an entitlement. Are you saying that Republican politicians are deliberately trying to rob the elderly?

https://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-hiltzik-mcconnell-social-security-20181019-story.html

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Mar 11, 2019 17:56:10   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
byronglimish wrote:
When you people present facts, truth and unbiased reason!!!


Nope, I have many times presented facts and it ALWAYS gets ignored, facts straight from government sources, oh wait, I forgot, "deep state". Only goes to show, there IS no "legitimate sources" for those on the right unless it comes in the form of right wing propaganda and conspiracy theories..

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Mar 11, 2019 18:01:03   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
byronglimish wrote:
Factual information is not hatred!

There is this regressive soy boy philosophy now ingrained on the Prog leftists.

If a white man shows even a hint of testosterone in his delivery of speech, he is castigated as a bigot or racist...this also goes for the people of color who stand on the Right.

The blacks are proclaimed as "Uncle Tom's" and worse.

Anything or Anybody who is fighting to save this Constitutional Republic is boldly spewed by the left as a hater.

National pride is condemned as just a white thing, it is not!

Most ultra leftist males, have most unfortunately bowed to socialists and progressive seditionist's.

The fundamental change instituted by a man from Kenya is the core of the left.

He hated the United States more than his bigoted preacher...the rev. Wright, who said.."goddamn America!"
Factual information is not hatred! br br There i... (show quote)


Wow, so much rage and ignorance, may I recommend anger management and perhaps staying away from right wing propaganda and conspiracy theories?

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Mar 11, 2019 18:01:56   #
woodguru
 
maximus wrote:
I understand how you feel...I feel the same way. Lately, I have gotten tired of being called names for trying to debate on OPP. I'm on the side that you are accusing. I have never posted an anti leftist thread to stir up trouble. The left does this all the time. It's funny to me that when I present facts, the other person gets triggered and smarts off or just ignores me. This has happened when I defended Christianity to someone who knew nothing about it, when I challenged a climate change anti-Trumper on facts that weren't facts at all, and when I tried to debate antagonistic threads by Roman Catholics ( usually titled something like...For All You Catholic Haters), and like you, I'm a little tired of it.
However, I don't usually see conservatives throwing out insults on a first is worst basis, but in response to insults thrown AT them, such as has happened to me.
After being insulted over Catholic priests molesting kids ( called me a moronic idiot)and a liberal woman telling someone to mind their own business and stay out of a private conversation on an OPEN forum, I lost it and used foul language and received a 3 day suspension. I won't go into the examinations I did on myself. I intend to NOT insult anybody ever again on OPP.
I also get ignored. As a matter of fact, you and I had a private conversation going and I asked you to answer just one question and you never responded again. (Not meant as an insult)
MY point is, yes, I'm tired of the insults and cartoons and name calling, but it's 80/40 generated on your side of things.
The majority of insults thrown at liberals is due to long experience with people, such as Kevyn, who will start a thread with the most bizarre statements, unprovable and easily debunked. It is tiresome.
I wish both side would return to a debate status, but I won't ask conservatives to stop the insults after they have BEEN insulted.
I understand how you feel...I feel the same way. L... (show quote)


I try not to respond to insults and attacks, sometimes that tones down the level, not always, but if you aren't reacting and responding to them it sort of leaves the other guy looking foolish.

The resorting to personal attacks ends any possibility of a decent and good debate, many people who are involved in a discussion check out when that starts. It got ludicrous on Predator Masters prior to the election, moderators cracked down and started issuing edicts on it stopping now. a dozen people or so got booted because they couldn't stop, the worst offenders that followed the people they didn't like around and interfered in discussions without having a single thing to add to them. After half a dozen got booted, and another half dozen quit posting in protest, a funny thing happened. Way more conservatives and liberals started contributing. Those people who stay quiet tend to have mixed attitudes about different things, and they are the ones that have something to say that needs to be heard. The site started having way more participation out of people who had been around a long time but hadn't joined in much. I try to get people involved in a discussion and it can't or doesn't happen when the personal attacks start, that is a dialog ender.

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Mar 11, 2019 18:03:58   #
woodguru
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Nope, I have many times presented facts and it ALWAYS gets ignored, facts straight from government sources, oh wait, I forgot, "deep state". Only goes to show, there IS no "legitimate sources" for those on the right unless it comes in the form of right wing propaganda and conspiracy theories..


You mean a dialog about facts where the rebuttal depends on rhetoric without substantiated facts?

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Mar 11, 2019 18:08:42   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
maximus wrote:
I understand how you feel...I feel the same way. Lately, I have gotten tired of being called names for trying to debate on OPP. I'm on the side that you are accusing. I have never posted an anti leftist thread to stir up trouble. The left does this all the time. It's funny to me that when I present facts, the other person gets triggered and smarts off or just ignores me. This has happened when I defended Christianity to someone who knew nothing about it, when I challenged a climate change anti-Trumper on facts that weren't facts at all, and when I tried to debate antagonistic threads by Roman Catholics ( usually titled something like...For All You Catholic Haters), and like you, I'm a little tired of it.
However, I don't usually see conservatives throwing out insults on a first is worst basis, but in response to insults thrown AT them, such as has happened to me.
After being insulted over Catholic priests molesting kids ( called me a moronic idiot)and a liberal woman telling someone to mind their own business and stay out of a private conversation on an OPEN forum, I lost it and used foul language and received a 3 day suspension. I won't go into the examinations I did on myself. I intend to NOT insult anybody ever again on OPP.
I also get ignored. As a matter of fact, you and I had a private conversation going and I asked you to answer just one question and you never responded again. (Not meant as an insult)
MY point is, yes, I'm tired of the insults and cartoons and name calling, but it's 80/40 generated on your side of things.
The majority of insults thrown at liberals is due to long experience with people, such as Kevyn, who will start a thread with the most bizarre statements, unprovable and easily debunked. It is tiresome.
I wish both side would return to a debate status, but I won't ask conservatives to stop the insults after they have BEEN insulted.
I understand how you feel...I feel the same way. L... (show quote)


Really, so you never see Wolf counselor launch first strikes? NEVER? And the right does not ignore that which they don't wish to acknowledge, Wolf counselor is but one example, there are several others. How many derogatory variations of Republican do you see? now compare that to how many derogatory variations you see of Democrat. Yes, when you agree with the poster you don't pay attention to the hate they spew.

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Mar 11, 2019 18:10:46   #
woodguru
 
bdamage wrote:
I think I'm going to go with number one seed Hillary and my long shot number 8 seed Bernie for the Gallo round.


I just got a shotgun that has invector chokes on the bird barrel, and a straight bore slug barrel with iron sights, I've been playing with 000/00/0 and #2 and #4 Buckshot for mountain lions and coyotes. The 00 and 000 buck is wicked on silhouette targets to ranges quite a bit beyond where I figure you could count on it. The high velocity slugs are accurate out to an easy 125 yards...

to heck with bird shot

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Mar 11, 2019 18:13:57   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
woodguru wrote:
You mean a dialog about facts where the rebuttal depends on rhetoric without substantiated facts?


Exactly, there are a few on the right that respond with facts (some somewhat questionable considering the source but better than many responses their party spew), most reply with rhetoric, propaganda, conspiracy theories, opinions and all too often, lies, insults, but Obama, but Hillary, but "insert Democrat name here"...

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Mar 11, 2019 18:18:27   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
woodguru wrote:
I just got a shotgun that has invector chokes on the bird barrel, and a straight bore slug barrel with iron sights, I've been playing with 000/00/0 and #2 and #4 Buckshot for mountain lions and coyotes. The 00 and 000 buck is wicked on silhouette targets to ranges quite a bit beyond where I figure you could count on it. The high velocity slugs are accurate out to an easy 125 yards...

to heck with bird shot


He's talking about an inappropriate and hateful image one of the "righties" posted where the gallows in the final round, all names in the contest appear to be Democrats Robert Mueller and I think I saw some they may consider rinos on the list of contenders. Nothing but hate yet they like to claim "lefties" are the haters.

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Mar 11, 2019 18:48:20   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
bdamage wrote:
I think I'm going to go with number one seed Hillary and my long shot number 8 seed Bernie for the Gallo round.


I'm kind of leaning towards Joe "Hands on inappropriate places" Bullbiden.

Maybe kamillion Harris as his token black...v.p.

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Mar 11, 2019 18:53:20   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Really, so you never see Wolf counselor launch first strikes? NEVER? And the right does not ignore that which they don't wish to acknowledge, Wolf counselor is but one example, there are several others. How many derogatory variations of Republican do you see? now compare that to how many derogatory variations you see of Democrat. Yes, when you agree with the poster you don't pay attention to the hate they spew.




You should really quit the victim role, it's getting to be, boring, base and benign.

Good luck!

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Mar 11, 2019 18:54:35   #
maryjane
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
What you fail to take into consideration is that Trump steps into it all, he has shown that he is dishonest, he favors the most despicable world leaders over his own intelligence community, he fosters contempt for our legislators, he fosters contempt for our journalists ESPECIALLY when they report the truth, he is immature, thin skinned (takes offense to anything not pro-Trump even if it is satire or skits on SNL), he doesn't have a clue how to BE president, he shows us nearly daily that he is a moron and He has even shown contempt for many of our own servicemen and servicewomen. He is the LEAST presidential president we have EVER had. If he wasn't going to take the job seriously, he never should have run. He hasn't even tried to act presidential since he has taken office, he doesn't put in the work necessary to even be taken seriously. A president should, if he doesn't know something, ask others, do some research or at least be willing to take the advice or expertise of those around him. A good president should NOT make their ignorance known by making stupid comments among world leaders so that they can all get a good laugh at our expense.

If Trump weren't such a bad president, I would like to think that EVERYONE would give him the respect that the office should be entitled to, the Republicans because he is their pick for president, the Democrats because he is treating the job as he should (even if they don't like his policies) and those not affiliated with any party would hopefully respect him because he isn't making America look stupid and/or corrupt.
What you fail to take into consideration is that T... (show quote)


No, I did not fail to consider that the current president says and does things many people dislike or disagree with. So do I. But there were many things the previous president said and did that I felt actually were harmful to our country. Disagreeing with any president's actions us just fine and most certainly part of a republic operating democratically. But the ugliness and virulent hatred that began during the Obama years has become something totally unacceptable, something so completely horrible that I wonder if our country will ever overcome it. I stand by my words. The horrible things I hear and read about people doing/saying out of pure hatred for this one man is simply beyond my understanding and unforgivable. I see him being blamed for EVERYTHING which is totally irrational thinking. No, on this, I am right, it is all wrong and unforgivable.

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