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Quite A Few Of My Conservative Friends Definitely Feel Differently About Trump
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Mar 7, 2019 16:59:26   #
woodguru
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
He actually thought people would believe that fable.


No... I actually didn't care, big difference.

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Mar 7, 2019 17:00:43   #
woodguru
 
maryla wrote:
Hillary and BHO left the men to die in Benghazi, plus she lost 31,000 emails (or some inexcusable number.). Her behavior does not show the dedication to the US that I would have voted for...


Newsflash, by the time Hillary heard anything about it they were dead and they were trying to figure out what had gone on.

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Mar 7, 2019 17:15:32   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Iliamna1 wrote:
Are you saying I lied? The story I told is true about being struck from behind by an illegal immigrant. Fortunately, like most LEGAL Texas drivers, I carry no-fault insurance. The Round Rock policemen came to the site of the accident and took both our descriptions of the accident and there was no denying he ran into the back of my car (two witnesses were standing outside Bank America). If the cars had been reversed and I had run into him or any one else with no insurance, I would have been booked. It is a two-tiered system.

I hope both parties find better candidates for the next election. I'm sure you do, too, and we both can agree on that!
Are you saying I lied? The story I told is true a... (show quote)


You mean you carry PIP and UM? Texas is not a no-fault state.

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Mar 7, 2019 17:43:59   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
woodguru wrote:
Men are judged entirely different by "liberals" than a right winger's idea of what a real man is... starting with a respect for women that is entirely different. The hard right says they respect women, but that in itself has an entirely different definition.



Change a couple of words and look what we have !

You are full of Hogwash so Drop your pious BS as to how much the left respects women !

Men are judged entirely different by "Conservatives " than a Left winger's idea of what a real man is... starting with a respect for women that is entirely different. The hard Left says they respect women, but that in itself has an entirely different definition.

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Mar 7, 2019 17:45:53   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
woodguru wrote:
You are part of the population here, you couldn't possibly think my intent would be to waste my time with those whom you are describing? You are a minority, just like the minority of Americans who still support this country, but true to form you believe that somehow as a minority your opinion matters, that you can somehow take the country back from Obama almost destroying it. You have made up your mind to believe Trump, and nothing will change that except to vote your god out of office if he isn't impeached first which is highly likely.
You are part of the population here, you couldn't ... (show quote)
You don't support America, whodathunkit? None of you liberal wastrels believe in American exceptionalism, rugged individualism, or personal freedom. Your loyalty is to an anti-American ideology, to your party, government is your god. You sold your souls to an ideological devil. Liberal progressivism is the bastard child of Communism, an abstract construct built upon an artificial framework conceived by European political philosophers--Marx, Engels, Hegel and Rousseau. Liberal progressivism is the antithesis of our nation's founding principles, it is diametrically opposed to everything our constitution stands for.

We do not worship any human being as a god, fool, and the only way president Trump can be voted out of office is in a presidential election. No matter how much you wish it, dream about it, pray to Ba'al for it, Trump will not be removed from office by impeachment. Any articles of impeachment will never make it through the senate.

40% of Americans interviewed in national Gallup Poll surveys describe their political views as conservative, 35% as moderate, and 21% as liberal. This represents a slight increase for conservatism in the U.S. since 2008, returning it to a level last seen in 2004. The 21% calling themselves liberal is in line with findings throughout this decade, but is up from the 1990s.

AS I PASS through my incarnations in every age and race,
I make my proper prostrations to the Gods of the Market Place.
Peering through reverent fingers I watch them flourish and fall,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings, I notice, outlast them all.

We were living in trees when they met us. They showed us each in turn
That Water would certainly wet us, as Fire would certainly burn:
But we found them lacking in Uplift, Vision and Breadth of Mind,
So we left them to teach the Gorillas while we followed the March of Mankind.

We moved as the Spirit listed. They never altered their pace,
Being neither cloud nor wind-borne like the Gods of the Market Place,
But they always caught up with our progress, and presently word would come
That a tribe had been wiped off its icefield, or the lights had gone out in Rome.

With the Hopes that our World is built on they were utterly out of touch,
They denied that the Moon was Stilton; they denied she was even Dutch;
They denied that Wishes were Horses; they denied that a Pig had Wings;
So we worshipped the Gods of the Market Who promised these beautiful things.

When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.
They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "Stick to the Devil you know."

On the first Feminian Sandstones we were promised the Fuller Life
(Which started by loving our neighbour and ended by loving his wife)
Till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "The Wages of Sin is Death."

In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul;
But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "If you don't work you die."

Then the Gods of the Market tumbled, and their smooth-tongued wizards withdrew
And the hearts of the meanest were humbled and began to believe it was true
That All is not Gold that Glitters, and Two and Two make Four
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings limped up to explain it once more.

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began.
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;

And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!

Kipling

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Mar 7, 2019 17:57:05   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
padremike wrote:
What "actual" evils are you convicting Trump?


Ah, you want me to waste my time in pointing out his "evils" even though you will ignore them, as per usual. Effort in futility on it's way.



Thin skin/immaturity:

Evidenced by his attacking others over any perceived sleight.

Attacks on SNL over their portrayal of him.

Attacking his own fellow Republicans and his own appointees anytime they disagree with him.

Attacking America's intelligence agencies anytime they point out truths he refuses to acknowledge.

Attacking media sources and calling them "fake news" when they report anything that isn't flattering about him, what he says or does even when they have the facts to back their reporting (I have personally fact checked many of them when he initially started the "fake news" claims)

His own white house staff have felt the need to remove documents from his desk they felt may cause issues/dangers if Trump were to see

America's own trade rep had to handle Trump as one might handle a petulant 3 year old during the latest U.S./China trade summit. He started by trying to correct Trump's ignorance regarding MOUs (standard "contract" regarding terms of agreed upon trade agreements), he did so by pretending to explain what an MOU is to the press corps after Trump balked that he preferred contracts to MOUs as MOUs "aren't binding" but contracts are (trade agreements AREN'T binding by nature, they can be broken at any time for any reason). AFTER he fully explained what an MOU was, their importance, Trump again pouted that he still didn't want any MOUs, he wanted a contract, Our trade rep must have much experience dealing with very young children, he told Trump that we would no longer call and MOU, we would now call an MOU a contract from now on, to which Trump asked if what was in the MOU would be added to that contract, thus proving he STILL didn't get it.



Trump lacks intelligence:

I point to final statement from last "evil"

His absolute paranoid fear of his school records/SAT scores being released, why would one fear such if he was nearly the "excellent student" he claims he was?

His twitter feed.

Many examples of his lack of reading comprehension, he doesn't even read the briefings he is given from the various administration heads, he wants people verbally give him the "cliff notes" of the briefing.

There was a judicial investigative hearing where he was asked to describe the contents of his own rental agreement contracts, when he was unable to do so, he was asked to find a specifically asked for segment of that contract and to read that portion out loud where at that point, his lawyer objected, the very moment he was asked to read that portion, Trump started offering excuses as to why he couldn't do that at that time.

Several so called experts have given their expert opinions as to what they considered his reading comprehension level might be, none seemed very "flattering".



His defense of immoral individuals/organizations, reluctance to disavow same:

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/aug/17/donald-trump/donald-trump-wrong-charlottesville-counter-protest/

https://www.factcheck.org/2016/03/trumps-david-duke-amnesia/



His believing foreign leaders OVER our own intelligence community:

Trump says Russia did not try to interfere in our elections in 2016 regardless of what our own intelligence community said and claimed to have valid proof of.

Trump denied Saudi crown prince's involvement in the death of Journalist in Saudi embassy in Turkey even though Intelligence claims high level of confidence in intelligence gathered following the murder that suggested that Saudi crown prince was indeed behind those sent to Turkey to murder him.

Trump denies that North Korea is continuing to ramp up efforts to continue producing nuclear weapons, nuclear weapons manufacturing capabilities, regardless the satellite photographic evidence of the expansion in nuclear capabilities.



Trumps lies to the American public, arguably the most ever told by any presidential candidate/president:

Much evidence of this everywhere throughout the internet, print media, Trump's own twitter feed, televised news, televised interviews, Trump/GOP rallies and presidential speeches.



Bank fraud/tax fraud:

Trump himself has admitted in at least one televised interview that He inflates the value of his properties when he is trying to get financing and that he deflates their values when he files his taxes.



Much more but since this is only an effort in futility, I don't feel the need to bother adding any more.

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Mar 7, 2019 18:25:26   #
son of witless
 
woodguru wrote:
They're card carrying Trump voting right wingers


Except according to you, they have burned their Trump cards.

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Mar 7, 2019 18:47:32   #
Liberty Tree
 
woodguru wrote:
No... I actually didn't care, big difference.


You very much wanted people to believe that story. Why else would you post it?

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Mar 7, 2019 18:57:59   #
Iliamna1
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
You mean you carry PIP and UM? Texas is not a no-fault state.


It was in 2005 and I had no fault ins. I don't know if it was because of a state law or my choice at the time. Just glad I had it. I do know my deductible was $500.

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Mar 7, 2019 19:06:17   #
son of witless
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
He actually thought people would believe that fable.



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Mar 7, 2019 19:10:39   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Much more but since this is only an effort in futility, I don't feel the need to bother adding any more.
Yep, it is definitely futile to parrot liberal media lies. Thanks for choosing not to continue.

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Mar 7, 2019 19:19:05   #
lanceelliott
 
Beautiful Post.



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Mar 7, 2019 20:00:51   #
Hadenough
 
woodguru wrote:
We have some friends who used to do a lot of talking about Trump, defending his positions and generally displaying their grasp of rhetorical talking points...

I've been noticing a shift, a big shift. We had a friend over for dinner this weekend, not one thing said about Trump, we did discuss healthcare and she seemed to agree that it's headed the wrong way and needs a big fix. A couple of weeks ago she was over for dinner and I asked how she felt about her president now...

She rolled her eyes and said "Oh God, what a Frigging idiot", we left the subject alone so as not to be rubbing salt in the wounds.

My neighbor, same thing, his comment was "what a frigging idiot, I just wish he would stop tweeting such idiotic things". He stopped wearing a MAGA hat a long time ago, said his wife wanted him to throw it away.

My point is that the people I know who will acknowledge Trump is an idiot will still defend certain things, they are still basically ignorant to the bone about political issues.
We have some friends who used to do a lot of talki... (show quote)


Wood glue,

That’s what people of intelligence say every time you post “what a frigging idiot”!

Tick Tock Tick Tock TDS Boom
MAGA

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Mar 7, 2019 20:12:11   #
Rose42
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Yep, it is definitely futile to parrot liberal media lies. Thanks for choosing not to continue.


If you can link to it on the internet it has to be true. lol

There is something very odd going on. The democrats are becoming more and more shrill. I've never seen anything like this happening before. It goes beyond dislike of Trump.

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Mar 7, 2019 20:13:09   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
woodguru wrote:
Men are judged entirely different by "liberals" than a right winger's idea of what a real man is... starting with a respect for women that is entirely different. The hard right says they respect women, but that in itself has an entirely different definition.


Conservative men respect women, Liberal men respect men who claim to be women.

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