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No, no, no---see the old bible says something like ---and darkness ruled over the abyss.Nowadays no-one knows what an abyss is, nor do they get the meaning of the sentence.They think its a female monk being beaten into submission in a room with all the lights out.Then Moses came down the mountain with some tablets---what aspirin, motrin? Just a crude example mind you , but you get he idea.Real crude actually.Anyway if there are a lot of false bibles out there, can you be certain you are reading the right one .Mine will be certified and signed by Jesus and free.Bring in your old one and we will recycle it

Why are there atheist? Every Christian website I go on, there are atheist there. I marvel at your logic. Why waste your time. I didn't get saved until I was forty years old. I didn't bother with God and He seem to let me alone. You atheist seem to know the Bible better than the Christians do. Why? Why bother? When I was a sinner I had better things to do and places to go. I didn't bother with a Christian and didn't care if someone went to heaven or not. I am not trying to say you have no right on a website, I can't understand why. Why care where he goes or do. I never try to force my Christ on someone. I will talk to someone if they are interested, but if they are not, I do what Jesus said do. Move on. Why do you work free? are you community organizers. Are you guys on Satan's payroll, Does he offer SS or retirement. Does he have a good insurance plan. Can he extend your life here on earth. Will he bless you or help you in the time when calamities happens. Do you say, you don't believe in Satan either. If you do, he is smiling. He doesn't even have to work on you. You've done his job for him. Well, I found the one that can do all these things and I know Satan's retirement will be a hot time for him

Thank you, Larry. I guess I see belief as more nuanced and relative. Absolute proofs are for mathematics. For human behavioral decision making there is experience, logic and reason to aid one in deciding between available options. Reports of other's experience, logic and reason related personally or historically can help guide one's thinking and decision making. Group consensus is also valuable. It makes sense to consider carefully the merit of consensually held beliefs and values that are strongly held and upheld by prescription of law and supported by enforced punishment. These issues have generally been encountered and considered carefully by numerous folks with varying success. Consensus often connotes reliability in outcome. Evaluation of factual evidence at hand, trial and error, critical thinking and honest evaluation of outcome... the scientific method if you will.
And change? Oh, yes! New conflicting experience and information must be evaluated and integrated into the belief system if possible, and an entire theory or complete body of information can be proven false at times by single bit of new information.
'Absolutely unchangeable standard' strikes me a barren and lifeless! If someone proves a belief of mine is clearly wrong I will thank them, admit error and change. (Possibly nurse a bruised ego if it was a particularly beloved belief.)
Also different beliefs have varying degrees of importance and relevance. I think in general, the more crucial to our well being and welfare a belief or value is, the more we are prompted to explore and test and consider it. For me, to say, "God did it." seems like lazy thinking and is no more useful than, "I don't know." If magic is allowed, all bets are off. No need to bother trying to figure anything out because magic or gods can arbitrarily suspend reality. Is the experience of suspended reality synonymous with psychotic? I fear the hour is late and I am rambling! My apologies.