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BOLI (bank owned life insurance) JP Morgan hold over half a trillion
Mar 24, 2014 15:49:52   #
Patty
 
So I guess we now know why all the young JPM executives are "committing suicide".
JPM hold the patent on BOLI and hold over half a trillion dollars on their employees.
JPMorgan is the assignee for Patent number 5,806,042

http://assignments.uspto.gov/assignments/q?db=pat&qt=pat&reel=&frame=&pat=5806042&pub=&asnr=&asnri=&asne=&asnei=&asns=

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Mar 24, 2014 16:48:44   #
Duckie
 
Old woman,

There are many good reasons for buying life insurance, regardless of who you buy it through or from, and regardless of patens pending or approved.

1. To Pay Final Expenses
The cost of a funeral and burial can easily run into the tens of thousands of dollars.

2. To Cover Children’s Expenses
I want to be sure my kids are well taken care of and can afford a quality college education.

3. To Replace the Spouse’s Income
If spouse had passed away while the kids were young, I would’ve needed to replace income, which was essential to our lifestyle. I also would’ve needed to hire help for domestic tasks we’d shared like cleaning the house, laundry, cooking, helping with schoolwork, and carting kids to doctor’s visits.

4. To Pay Off Debts
In addition to providing income to cover everyday living expenses, my family would need insurance to cover debts like the mortgage so they wouldn’t have to sell the house to stay solvent.

5. To Buy a Business Partner’s Shares
Since I’m involved in a business partnership, I need insurance on my partner’s life. The reason is so if they dies, I will have enough cash to buy his interest from his heirs and pay his share of the company’s obligations without having to sell the company itself. He has the same needs (due to the risk that I might die), and he simultaneously purchased insurance on my life.

6. To Pay Off Estate Taxes
Estate taxes can be steep, so having insurance in place to pay them is essential to avoid jeopardizing assets or funds built for retirement. Use of insurance for this purpose is most common in large estates, and uses permanent (rather than term) insurance to ensure that coverage remains until the end of life.

There are some people that do not buy insurance, but those people are actually being inconsiderate of their surviving family members. Also, when considering life insurance, one should buy it when they are young because it is only pennies on a dollar. As people age, get old, they may not qualify for insurances due to the natural aging process.

Patty wrote:
So I guess we now know why all the young JPM executives are "committing suicide".
JPM hold the patent on BOLI and hold over half a trillion dollars on their employees.
JPMorgan is the assignee for Patent number 5,806,042

http://assignments.uspto.gov/assignments/q?db=pat&qt=pat&reel=&frame=&pat=5806042&pub=&asnr=&asnri=&asne=&asnei=&asns=

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Mar 24, 2014 16:51:52   #
Patty
 
So what you are saying is you really aren't very bright either.
What the hell did any of that have to do with this thread?

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Duckie wrote:
Old woman,

There are many good reasons for buying life insurance, regardless of who you buy it through or from, and regardless of patens pending or approved.

1. To Pay Final Expenses
The cost of a funeral and burial can easily run into the tens of thousands of dollars, and I don’t want my wife, parents, or children to suffer financially in addition to emotionally at my death.

2. To Cover Children’s Expenses
Like most fathers, I want to be sure my kids are well taken care of and can afford a quality college education. For this reason, additional coverage is absolutely essential while my kids are still at home.

3. To Replace the Spouse’s Income
If my wife had passed away while the kids were young, I would’ve needed to replace her income, which was essential to our lifestyle. I also would’ve needed to hire help for domestic tasks we’d shared like cleaning the house, laundry, cooking, helping with schoolwork, and carting kids to doctor’s visits.

4. To Pay Off Debts
In addition to providing income to cover everyday living expenses, my family would need insurance to cover debts like the mortgage so they wouldn’t have to sell the house to stay solvent.

5. To Buy a Business Partner’s Shares
Since I’m involved in a business partnership, I need insurance on my partner’s life. The reason is so if he dies, I will have enough cash to buy his interest from his heirs and pay his share of the company’s obligations without having to sell the company itself. He has the same needs (due to the risk that I might die), and he simultaneously purchased insurance on my life.

6. To Pay Off Estate Taxes
Estate taxes can be steep, so having insurance in place to pay them is essential to avoid jeopardizing assets or funds built for retirement. Use of insurance for this purpose is most common in large estates, and uses permanent (rather than term) insurance to ensure that coverage remains until the end of life.

There are some people that do not buy insurance, but those people are actually being inconsiderate of their surviving family members. Also, when considering life insurance, one should buy it when they are young because it is only pennies on a dollar. As people age, get old, they may not qualify for insurances due to the natural aging process.
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Mar 24, 2014 23:48:22   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Patty wrote:
So what you are saying is you really aren't very bright either.
What the hell did any of that have to do with this thread?

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Life insurance is good money - for everybody except the dead person. :lol:

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Mar 25, 2014 03:44:19   #
Patty
 
Look how many companies have put insurance policies on their employees. At least WalMart, who hired the elderly door greeters specifically for this reason waited till they died on their own.
http://deadpeasantinsurance.com/which-employers-bought-policies-on-the-lives-of-employees/

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Mar 25, 2014 05:00:46   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Patty wrote:
Look how many companies have put insurance policies on their employees. At least WalMart, who hired the elderly door greeters specifically for this reason waited till they died on their own.
http://deadpeasantinsurance.com/which-employers-bought-policies-on-the-lives-of-employees/


Did they? I think free coffee was a perk for them. Who would bother looking for strychnine in an old person?

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Mar 25, 2014 05:17:05   #
Patty
 
I wouldn't put anything past this big corp orgs. Ethics is a lost trait now.
I remember a race car driver (don't remember who) saying that winning at all costs has become the equivalent of ordained murder.
lpnmajor wrote:
Did they? I think free coffee was a perk for them. Who would bother looking for strychnine in an old person?

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Mar 25, 2014 05:34:19   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Patty wrote:
I wouldn't put anything past this big corp orgs. Ethics is a lost trait now.
I remember a race car driver (don't remember who) saying that winning at all costs has become the equivalent of ordained murder.


Absolutely. Life is cheap. A young person is worth $25,000, according to DoD. We'll spend Millions of dollars to ensure a death row inmate is killed legitimately, but GM won't spend $10 to keep drivers safe. The country spends 10's of millions every year on inmate health, and whines about Medicaid for poor people.

Hospitals spend more money trying to cover up fatal errors than they do trying to prevent them. Corporations are the same. The only time peoples lives have value, is when you insure that life, and even then, it only has value when the person dies. Here's a goody. Flight 370 crashes in the ocean, millions are/will be spent to find it. A $75 device could have been installed that causes a beacon to float when submerged more than 20 feet. Boeing knows this, has the devices, but doesn't put them on aircraft. There were, however, floatation devices under every seat. Go figure.

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Mar 25, 2014 05:40:47   #
Patty
 
I don't think Im buying this whole 370 conclusion. Like you said there were floatation devices under every seat.
I looked at currents in that part of the Indian Ocean and if that was where the plane went down there would be luggage and other things coming up on the shore in Perth.

lpnmajor wrote:
Absolutely. Life is cheap. A young person is worth $25,000, according to DoD. We'll spend Millions of dollars to ensure a death row inmate is killed legitimately, but GM won't spend $10 to keep drivers safe. The country spends 10's of millions every year on inmate health, and whines about Medicaid for poor people.

Hospitals spend more money trying to cover up fatal errors than they do trying to prevent them. Corporations are the same. The only time peoples lives have value, is when you insure that life, and even then, it only has value when the person dies. Here's a goody. Flight 370 crashes in the ocean, millions are/will be spent to find it. A $75 device could have been installed that causes a beacon to float when submerged more than 20 feet. Boeing knows this, has the devices, but doesn't put them on aircraft. There were, however, floatation devices under every seat. Go figure.
Absolutely. Life is cheap. A young person is worth... (show quote)

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Mar 25, 2014 11:34:20   #
RetNavyCWO Loc: VA suburb of DC
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Absolutely. Life is cheap. A young person is worth $25,000, according to DoD.


Huh? Where did you get your $25,000 figure?

Servicemembers' Group Life Insurance (SGLI), mandatory for service members, unless they opt out or choose a lower amount, has been $400,000 since just after 9/11. The Death Gratuity paid out by DOD for every active duty death increased from $6,000 to $100,000 after 9/11. Tax-free. On top of that are tax-free VA benefits worth a few hundred thousand. All tolled, surviving spouses and family members of service members who die on active duty receive in the neighborhood of $1 million.

For some, I don't think that's nearly enough. For others, like the 20-yr-old widows who married their service member husbands just before they went off to war, it's a bit much. I know of one young widow in her 20's, no kids, who blew through her $500K in a matter of 6 months, then tried to get me (the company I work for) to help her get more!

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Mar 25, 2014 12:31:31   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
RetNavyCWO wrote:
Huh? Where did you get your $25,000 figure?

Servicemembers' Group Life Insurance (SGLI), mandatory for service members, unless they opt out or choose a lower amount, has been $400,000 since just after 9/11. The Death Gratuity paid out by DOD for every active duty death increased from $6,000 to $100,000 after 9/11. Tax-free. On top of that are tax-free VA benefits worth a few hundred thousand. All tolled, surviving spouses and family members of service members who die on active duty receive in the neighborhood of $1 million.

For some, I don't think that's nearly enough. For others, like the 20-yr-old widows who married their service member husbands just before they went off to war, it's a bit much. I know of one young widow in her 20's, no kids, who blew through her $500K in a matter of 6 months, then tried to get me (the company I work for) to help her get more!
Huh? Where did you get your $25,000 figure? br ... (show quote)


So inflation has made the lives a little more valuable, but then with inflation, it's about the same. The point is, there IS a dollar amount attached to a persons life, which benefits them - not at all. No one sells "replacement" insurance. A person should be worth more than money, don't you think? Or is that how far we've fallen.

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Mar 25, 2014 14:43:42   #
RetNavyCWO Loc: VA suburb of DC
 
lpnmajor wrote:
So inflation has made the lives a little more valuable, but then with inflation, it's about the same. The point is, there IS a dollar amount attached to a persons life, which benefits them - not at all. No one sells "replacement" insurance. A person should be worth more than money, don't you think? Or is that how far we've fallen.


$500K is much, much more than just an inflated $25K! It's the result of a Congress with a guilty conscience for sending our young men and women off to war. They also increased other survivor benefits by over 50%.

I agree with you, though, that "A person should be worth more than money." However, there is a well-known concept in the insurance industry and in law referred to as "Human Life Value". It is the present value of an individual's potential lifetime earnings. Many people buy life insurance based on this concept. It is also used in wrongful death lawsuits. I was an insurance agent for about 15 years, and it's taught in financial services textbooks and in sales training (and, obviously, in law schools, too).

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