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Mar 2, 2019 20:32:42   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Perceive... Perception has nothing to do with it, he has proven time and again that he has no love for the truth nor aversion to telling lies. How about one single RUNNING example for you, he claims he never had an affair with Stormy Daniels... okay, he had an affair with her but no hush money or NDA... okay, there was hush money AND an NDA but he didn't know about it... He doesn't lie? Please tell me what he was doing the whole way through if you don't call those lies. That is just one example, there are oh so many examples, many of which my poor memory has lost over time but that should be sufficient evidence of the fact that he DOES lie.

Of course now will come the "but Obama... but Hillary... but "insert Democrat of choice here..."..." argument. We typically call that DEFLECTION.
Perceive... Perception has nothing to do with it, ... (show quote)


He has NEVER admitted to anything with that whore.

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Mar 2, 2019 20:33:46   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Ah, I see, so you are saying that Trump didn't have an affair with Stormy Daniels? Why would he later lie and say he did then? You are further saying that Stormy Daniels WASN'T paid hush money and forced to sign an NDA? Why did Trump later lie and say that she did receive hush money and sign an NDA then? Either he did have an affair with her or he didn't, he has since said both that he didn't have an affair with her and later he said he did, one of those statements MUST be a lie, they CAN'T both be true. Either she WAS paid hush money and signed an NDA or she wasn't paid the hush money and signed an NDA, Trump has both claimed it wasn't true and later claimed it was, one of those statements HAS to be a lie.

Please explain to me how Trump lying is all in my head, I am far too ignorant to understand how it can be both ways, that he did and that he didn't have the affair, how there WAS hush money paid and an NDA signed AND there wasn't. far too confusing to me, to me it would be proof positive that he does lie, but then that is only the way it would seem to me.

I will await your answer, please try to hurry, this trying to wrap my head around how it is just all in my head that he has lied is going to rip my poor brain apart if you don't get back soon enough.
Ah, I see, so you are saying that Trump didn't hav... (show quote)


He never said he did.

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Mar 2, 2019 21:09:23   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Ah, I see, so you are saying that Trump didn't have an affair with Stormy Daniels? Why would he later lie and say he did then? You are further saying that Stormy Daniels WASN'T paid hush money and forced to sign an NDA? Why did Trump later lie and say that she did receive hush money and sign an NDA then? Either he did have an affair with her or he didn't, he has since said both that he didn't have an affair with her and later he said he did, one of those statements MUST be a lie, they CAN'T both be true. Either she WAS paid hush money and signed an NDA or she wasn't paid the hush money and signed an NDA, Trump has both claimed it wasn't true and later claimed it was, one of those statements HAS to be a lie.

Please explain to me how Trump lying is all in my head, I am far too ignorant to understand how it can be both ways, that he did and that he didn't have the affair, how there WAS hush money paid and an NDA signed AND there wasn't. far too confusing to me, to me it would be proof positive that he does lie, but then that is only the way it would seem to me.

I will await your answer, please try to hurry, this trying to wrap my head around how it is just all in my head that he has lied is going to rip my poor brain apart if you don't get back soon enough.
Ah, I see, so you are saying that Trump didn't hav... (show quote)

You mean the Stormy Daniels who had her lawsuit tossed and had to pay Trump $292,000? THAT Stormy Daniels? A ruling from a judge in CALIFORNIA no less.

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Mar 2, 2019 21:42:55   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
You mean the Stormy Daniels who had her lawsuit tossed and had to pay Trump $292,000? THAT Stormy Daniels? A ruling from a judge in CALIFORNIA no less.


You should consider being a little more compassionate and sharpen the spikes before you hammer them in.

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Mar 2, 2019 23:28:31   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
He never said he did.


You are in luck, I can not recall where I saw it and therefore can not present you with the evidence any longer. So let us forget about the affair portion, how about his statement that there was no payment or NDA and later admitting that there was both? I did find the admission, if you insist I can look for the denial that either existed.

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Mar 2, 2019 23:30:24   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
You mean the Stormy Daniels who had her lawsuit tossed and had to pay Trump $292,000? THAT Stormy Daniels? A ruling from a judge in CALIFORNIA no less.


And that has what to do with Trump's lies, deflection yet again, is that all you can do, deflect? I would say that I would expect better from you but then I would be the liar then.

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Mar 2, 2019 23:56:58   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
And that has what to do with Trump's lies, deflection yet again, is that all you can do, deflect? I would say that I would expect better from you but then I would be the liar then.


How in the world can you claim that was deflection just because you didn't like his accurate response. I actually know the answer but it's so outrageous you'd still be just a little bit, a mere smidgen, ashamed to say it. Allow me to say it for you. "We don't need no stinking courts for justice. The court of our manufactured public opinion is sufficient."

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Mar 3, 2019 00:26:45   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
padremike wrote:
How in the world can you claim that was deflection just because you didn't like his accurate response. I actually know the answer but it's so outrageous you'd still be just a little bit, a mere smidgen, ashamed to say it. Allow me to say it for you. "We don't need no stinking courts for justice. The court of our manufactured public opinion is sufficient."
How in the world can you claim that was deflection... (show quote)


Because it has nothing to do with the lies Trump tells or whether Cohen was telling the truth or lying when he testified on Trumps's lies. That is what makes it deflection. Now if this discussion was on the Stormy Daniels' lawsuit against Trump, then it would be on topic and relevant, otherwise off topic and irrelevant. Try leaving your emotions out, try arguing based on facts and perhaps if you succeed in keeping your emotions in check, you will see that Stormy Daniels, while admittedly, was involved in the incident that triggered the chain of events that led to the crimes being committed, has absolutely no place in this discussion, hence DEFLECTION!

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Mar 3, 2019 03:06:51   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, CO
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
You mean the Stormy Daniels who had her lawsuit tossed and had to pay Trump $292,000? THAT Stormy Daniels? A ruling from a judge in CALIFORNIA no less.


Looks to me like the porn slut lost all the way around~~~



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Mar 3, 2019 06:17:15   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
Jakebrake wrote:
Looks to me like the porn slut lost all the way around~~~


Has trumpy been accused of rape like slick willie has by several women?

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Mar 3, 2019 08:38:19   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Perceive... Perception has nothing to do with it, he has proven time and again that he has no love for the truth nor aversion to telling lies. How about one single RUNNING example for you, he claims he never had an affair with Stormy Daniels... okay, he had an affair with her but no hush money or NDA... okay, there was hush money AND an NDA but he didn't know about it... He doesn't lie? Please tell me what he was doing the whole way through if you don't call those lies. That is just one example, there are oh so many examples, many of which my poor memory has lost over time but that should be sufficient evidence of the fact that he DOES lie.

Of course now will come the "but Obama... but Hillary... but "insert Democrat of choice here..."..." argument. We typically call that DEFLECTION.
Perceive... Perception has nothing to do with it, ... (show quote)


AMEN

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Mar 3, 2019 09:21:30   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Because it has nothing to do with the lies Trump tells or whether Cohen was telling the truth or lying when he testified on Trumps's lies. That is what makes it deflection. Now if this discussion was on the Stormy Daniels' lawsuit against Trump, then it would be on topic and relevant, otherwise off topic and irrelevant. Try leaving your emotions out, try arguing based on facts and perhaps if you succeed in keeping your emotions in check, you will see that Stormy Daniels, while admittedly, was involved in the incident that triggered the chain of events that led to the crimes being committed, has absolutely no place in this discussion, hence DEFLECTION!
Because it has nothing to do with the lies Trump t... (show quote)


As opposed to what YOUR delusion? Slick willie was accused of rape...has trumpy? That is a big difference that cannot be ignored...except by those with TDS such as yourself. Yep, common sense matters, go find some.

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Mar 3, 2019 09:28:08   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
And that has what to do with Trump's lies, deflection yet again, is that all you can do, deflect? I would say that I would expect better from you but then I would be the liar then.


How is it deflection to point out that the person Trump supposedly lied about had her case thrown out of court and had to pay Trump nearly $300,000? I would say that I expected something resembling intelligence from you, but then I would be a Liberal.
As for Ms Clifford, I suppose it's back on her back again. I'm still trying to figure out why if you have sex for money in the privacy of a motel you're a whore, and if you do it in front of a camera for tens of thousands of people to watch you're an actress.

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Mar 3, 2019 09:46:04   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Because it has nothing to do with the lies Trump tells or whether Cohen was telling the truth or lying when he testified on Trumps's lies. That is what makes it deflection. Now if this discussion was on the Stormy Daniels' lawsuit against Trump, then it would be on topic and relevant, otherwise off topic and irrelevant. Try leaving your emotions out, try arguing based on facts and perhaps if you succeed in keeping your emotions in check, you will see that Stormy Daniels, while admittedly, was involved in the incident that triggered the chain of events that led to the crimes being committed, has absolutely no place in this discussion, hence DEFLECTION!
Because it has nothing to do with the lies Trump t... (show quote)


You can bang the table all you wish but regardless of what your own emotions tell you, you don't know if Trump had a relationship with this woman. A payoff for silence is neither illegal (a crime) nor an admission of guilt. On the other hand Miss Daniels was found guilty. The facts. Nothing but the facts.

Every day CNN, MSNBC, et al, bring another trumped up charge against Trump. How many can you remember and how many stuck; how many had real substance? This is becoming as much of a joke as did "it's Bush's fault."

"Trumped up charge against Trump." That has a nice familiar ring to it huh? Sort of puts one to sleep.

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Mar 3, 2019 09:54:00   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
padremike wrote:
You can bang the table all you wish but regardless of what your own emotions tell you, you don't know if Trump had a relationship with this woman. A payoff for silence is neither illegal (a crime) nor an admission of guilt. On the other hand Miss Daniels was found guilty. The facts. Nothing but the facts.

Every day CNN, MSNBC, et al, bring another trumped up charge against Trump. How many can you remember and how many stuck; how many had real substance? This is becoming as much of a joke as did "it's Bush's fault."

"Trumped up charge against Trump." That has a nice familiar ring to it huh? Sort of puts one to sleep.
You can bang the table all you wish but regardless... (show quote)


But a lie is a lie and Trump is full of them lol

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