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Open up your eyes! Cohen did a lot of this: is the scoop, here are the documents. There were 5 felonies he said Trump committed. The presidency is not a get out of jail free card.

buffalo Loc: Texas

Where are the documents, what's in them...and who made conehead the judge and jury? You moonbats keep pointing to all kinds of evidence of trumpy being guilty of criminal activities but NONE has yet to be produced...WTF? Too many deep state apparatchiks for the dim-0-craps with TDS.

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

.....They would rather believe proven liar....The hate of this President is off the chart..I have never see something like this before!!!

cbpat1

I understand your position too. I truly do, because I bounce back and forth between your position and screw the liberals if they don’t like him. They can get used to it. We had to get used to Obama, after Romney blew it. Trump is doing things that no other president would do and it has made a positive difference. Our economy is on fire, for all groups, African Americans, Hispanics, Women, not just rich white boys, like the democrats would like you to believe. Thanks to Trump cutting unnecessary regulations, unemployment, is at or near an all time low. Labor participation rate is back up high again. We are now a net energy exporter, for the first time in a long time, if ever. Manufacturing jobs are coming back in droves. Wages are going up. These are facts, but, we need to impeach Trump, according to most democrats and CNN & MSNBC.

No, I decide to come down on the side of asking myself, why we should get rid of a great President, just to silence a bunch of loud mouth progressives. I respectfully disagree, we cannot let the liberals shout us down. Not now, not ever! I get sick to death of it sometimes, but, we cannot give in.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

It's kind of ironic isn't it? They are trying to use a liar to bring down what they perceive to be a liar.

Common_Sense_Matters

Perceive... Perception has nothing to do with it, he has proven time and again that he has no love for the truth nor aversion to telling lies. How about one single RUNNING example for you, he claims he never had an affair with Stormy Daniels... okay, he had an affair with her but no hush money or NDA... okay, there was hush money AND an NDA but he didn't know about it... He doesn't lie? Please tell me what he was doing the whole way through if you don't call those lies. That is just one example, there are oh so many examples, many of which my poor memory has lost over time but that should be sufficient evidence of the fact that he DOES lie.

Of course now will come the "but Obama... but Hillary... but "insert Democrat of choice here..."..." argument. We typically call that DEFLECTION.

Smedley_buzkill

You mean like [i]"I did not have sex with that woman?" or "It depends on what your definition of 'is' is? or "if you like your doctor/health plan you can keep it?" or the "ACA is NOT a tax?"

Smedley_buzkill

Actually, it's Liberal cherry-picking. If Genghis Khan was a Democrat and Jesus Christ a Republican, we know who a Liberal would vote for.

Common_Sense_Matters

[quote=Smedley_buzkill]You mean like [i]"I did not have sex with that woman?" or "It depends on what your definition of 'is' is? or "if you like your doctor/health plan you can keep it?" or the "ACA is NOT a tax?"[/quote]

Did I NOT predict deflection, damn, I am psychic.


Fairly certain this thread was not created to discuss other presidents/politicians, it was to discuss Cohen/Trump issues. Please feel free to point out how any of what you "deflected" to detracts from Trump's dishonesty.

Common_Sense_Matters

Cherry picking? How so? I just chose one string of lies he has told. Did I give the impression that I was going to offer a comprehensive list of everything Trump has said while in office? Any comment I might have chosen of Trump's be it a lie or a truth would by same definition be considered "cherry picking" by the standard that the single string of lies would be considered "cherry picking". For that matter, just discussing Trump as a president would be "cherry picking" by those standards as he wasn't the only president we have ever had much less the fact we are not the only ones to elect a president.

Basically, I judge your "cherry picking" comment as just more deflection.

Smedley_buzkill

It addresses the basic dishonesty of Liberals who ignore far more wrongdoing by one of their own while focusing on unproven accusations. Accidental misstatements become planned lies
No, you are not psychic. Not even psychotic.

Trump/Cohen? Trump has been convicted in the Court of Liberal Opinion.
Cohen has been convicted in a Court of Law.
As much as it must gall you, only one of these courts is valid.

Common_Sense_Matters

Ah, so this thread is about dishonesty then? I could have sworn it had a specific topic and that it was about the Cohen testimony.

Just more deflection from one that B****** about Cohen lying without offering proof that they are lies, but supports Trump's lying without offering justification for the hypocrisy of holding Cohen to a higher standard than he hold POTUS to.

Care to tell us why a mere citizen should be held to a higher standard of integrity than our own POTUS?

Common_Sense_Matters

Deflection, deflection, deflection, ah, so you have nothing of substance on the topic, typical of your posts.

Smedley_buzkill

The mere citizen has been convicted of perjury in a Court of Law. In which Court has the President been convicted? ( I mean other than the one that you hold in your head?)
Convicted of perjury and sentenced to prison and that's not proof. Got it.

Common_Sense_Matters

Ah, I see, so you are saying that Trump didn't have an affair with Stormy Daniels? Why would he later lie and say he did then? You are further saying that Stormy Daniels WASN'T paid hush money and forced to sign an NDA? Why did Trump later lie and say that she did receive hush money and sign an NDA then? Either he did have an affair with her or he didn't, he has since said both that he didn't have an affair with her and later he said he did, one of those statements MUST be a lie, they CAN'T both be true. Either she WAS paid hush money and signed an NDA or she wasn't paid the hush money and signed an NDA, Trump has both claimed it wasn't true and later claimed it was, one of those statements HAS to be a lie.

Please explain to me how Trump lying is all in my head, I am far too ignorant to understand how it can be both ways, that he did and that he didn't have the affair, how there WAS hush money paid and an NDA signed AND there wasn't. far too confusing to me, to me it would be proof positive that he does lie, but then that is only the way it would seem to me.

I will await your answer, please try to hurry, this trying to wrap my head around how it is just all in my head that he has lied is going to rip my poor brain apart if you don't get back soon enough.