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Feb 20, 2019 23:37:54   #
Seth
 
woodguru wrote:
I think I'll stick to keeping up with reporting that uses documents and court filings as a reference to what we know to be facts...

...you keep operating on speculative and wishful thinking rhetoric that has never had a true reference except "what we know"

FOX operates on speculative leaks from the GOP and fails to modify their rhetoric when the truth comes out when the real transcripts get released. The GOP was getting their reports made public when they controlled the house, and refusing to make the dem rebuttals made public, and people are too ignorant to see that for what it is?
I think I'll stick to keeping up with reporting th... (show quote)


Actually, while I do watch a few shows on FOX, it's mostly for commentary and debate, not one of my primary sources of news and information.

However, I would trust something I heard on FOX a hell of a lot more readily than I would something I heard on CNN or something I read in the New York Times.

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Feb 21, 2019 05:52:30   #
tophat
 
moldyoldy wrote:
A lot of crimes in the payoff, where did the money come from, which pocket?


Moldy you are wrong again!--STILL It didn't happen, well she did get the money from cohen, but had to pay it back! That was a scam from the gitgo.

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Feb 28, 2019 03:26:55   #
woodguru
 
BigMike wrote:
I deny it was relevant or criminal and obviously, it wasn't.

That's why I say you will believe whatever tickles your ears.

That's the devil, you know. He told you "This is the big one! The one that will bring down Trump (who is standing in the way of my beautiful, bloody World War ond One World Government!) and prove you were right!"...and you bought it.


We're about to see how relevant the payments on this to Cohen are, like with Clinton, it wasn't a blowjob that got him impeached, it was lying about it.

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Feb 28, 2019 06:27:34   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
woodguru wrote:
We're about to see how relevant the payments on this to Cohen are, like with Clinton, it wasn't a blowjob that got him impeached, it was lying about it.


Really? So how did that nothing burger Conehead served up taste? He and the dim-0-craps looked like the idiots they are in that dog and pony show.

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Feb 28, 2019 06:55:36   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
buffalo wrote:
Really? So how did that nothing burger Conehead served up taste? He and the dim-0-craps looked like the idiots they are in that dog and pony show.


It's been said that for his next few acts, Cohen will be doing some card tricks, work his fly and make water disappear from bottle again, this should fascinate the dullards too.

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Feb 28, 2019 13:52:50   #
Ricktloml
 
buffalo wrote:
Really? So how did that nothing burger Conehead served up taste? He and the dim-0-craps looked like the idiots they are in that dog and pony show.


Keep in mind the DEMOCRATS are paying Cohen's attorney fees. The fact that Lanny Davis, (long time operative and close friend to Hillary,) is his lawyer should be something a "free press" might think the public should know. In today's media, (propaganda) atmosphere, being connected in ANY way to President Trump is reason enough for the abusively biased media to repeatedly point that out, and then smear that person relentlessly. One could say that this is taking being a sore loser to the extremes. But the Democrats, especially Hillary and Obama, (along with their operatives and appointees,) NEEDED to win. As they suspected, the unprecedented amount of corruption and abuse of power, (that no one was EVER supposed to find out about,) is starting to surface. Their arrogance, (Obama rigged the 2012 election by weaponizing the IRS and got away with it,) led them to be a lot less careful about covering their tracks than they should have been. So when the unthinkable happened and the American people elected Donald Trump, these political thugs started this attempt at a political coup. ALL this is an ongoing effort to overturn the results of the 2016 election, (and punish President Trump and those who voted for him, (or against Hillary,) for daring to undermine them cheating Hillary into the White House. There needs to be a clear message sent, if ANYONE tries to interfere with the bureaucratic state retaining and wielding power, they need to be crushed, so no one will ever attempt to reign them in again. We are witnessing an attempt at a COUP, and the media is obviously complicit, because they are covering for, excusing, defending, misinforming, REFUSING to inform and outright lying to protect those, (including themselves,) involved in this travesty.

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Feb 28, 2019 14:08:21   #
moldyoldy
 
Ricktloml wrote:
Keep in mind the DEMOCRATS are paying Cohen's attorney fees. The fact that Lanny Davis, (long time operative and close friend to Hillary,) is his lawyer should be something a "free press" might think the public should know. In today's media, (propaganda) atmosphere, being connected in ANY way to President Trump is reason enough for the abusively biased media to repeatedly point that out, and then smear that person relentlessly. One could say that this is taking being a sore loser to the extremes. But the Democrats, especially Hillary and Obama, (along with their operatives and appointees,) NEEDED to win. As they suspected, the unprecedented amount of corruption and abuse of power, (that no one was EVER supposed to find out about,) is starting to surface. Their arrogance, (Obama rigged the 2012 election by weaponizing the IRS and got away with it,) led them to be a lot less careful about covering their tracks than they should have been. So when the unthinkable happened and the American people elected Donald Trump, these political thugs started this attempt at a political coup. ALL this is an ongoing effort to overturn the results of the 2016 election, (and punish President Trump and those who voted for him, (or against Hillary,) for daring to undermine them cheating Hillary into the White House. There needs to be a clear message sent, if ANYONE tries to interfere with the bureaucratic state retaining and wielding power, they need to be crushed, so no one will ever attempt to reign them in again. We are witnessing an attempt at a COUP, and the media is obviously complicit, because they are covering for, excusing, defending, misinforming, REFUSING to inform and outright lying to protect those, (including themselves,) involved in this travesty.
Keep in mind the DEMOCRATS are paying Cohen's atto... (show quote)


Start off with a lie and the rest is suspect.

Michael Cohen's lawyer Lanny Davis starts GoFundMe page to help pay ex-Trump attorney's legal fees. 8/22/18
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/michael-cohen-apos-lawyer-lanny-133200911.html

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Feb 28, 2019 14:18:49   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
Ricktloml wrote:
Keep in mind the DEMOCRATS are paying Cohen's attorney fees. The fact that Lanny Davis, (long time operative and close friend to Hillary,) is his lawyer should be something a "free press" might think the public should know. In today's media, (propaganda) atmosphere, being connected in ANY way to President Trump is reason enough for the abusively biased media to repeatedly point that out, and then smear that person relentlessly. One could say that this is taking being a sore loser to the extremes. But the Democrats, especially Hillary and Obama, (along with their operatives and appointees,) NEEDED to win. As they suspected, the unprecedented amount of corruption and abuse of power, (that no one was EVER supposed to find out about,) is starting to surface. Their arrogance, (Obama rigged the 2012 election by weaponizing the IRS and got away with it,) led them to be a lot less careful about covering their tracks than they should have been. So when the unthinkable happened and the American people elected Donald Trump, these political thugs started this attempt at a political coup. ALL this is an ongoing effort to overturn the results of the 2016 election, (and punish President Trump and those who voted for him, (or against Hillary,) for daring to undermine them cheating Hillary into the White House. There needs to be a clear message sent, if ANYONE tries to interfere with the bureaucratic state retaining and wielding power, they need to be crushed, so no one will ever attempt to reign them in again. We are witnessing an attempt at a COUP, and the media is obviously complicit, because they are covering for, excusing, defending, misinforming, REFUSING to inform and outright lying to protect those, (including themselves,) involved in this travesty.
Keep in mind the DEMOCRATS are paying Cohen's atto... (show quote)


I know. Did you see Davis behind conehead when chairman elijah (Aunt Jemima's son) was mouthing off. He looked like he was about to break down sobbing. Scumbags all of them!

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Feb 28, 2019 15:05:14   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
buffalo wrote:
I know. Did you see Davis behind conehead when chairman elijah (Aunt Jemima's son) was mouthing off. He looked like he was about to break down sobbing. Scumbags all of them!


Is there anybody that is not a Scumbag or a moonbat?

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Feb 28, 2019 15:47:27   #
Seth
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Is there anybody that is not a Scumbag or a moonbat?


Plenty of people. The one thing they all share is that they aren't shameless enough to go about with a (D) following their names.

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Feb 28, 2019 15:51:11   #
woodguru
 
buffalo wrote:
Really? So how did that nothing burger Conehead served up taste? He and the dim-0-craps looked like the idiots they are in that dog and pony show.


You missed the part that would point to tax fraud, not to mention Trump is not supposed to have anything to do with the holding company he wrote a check from.

Telling Cohen to invoice the payments on an NDA meant to hide an affair with a porn star as legal services is fraud if the intent is to use those expenses as a legitimate write off, which they are not.

In case you have relegated lying to nothing, Trump repeatedly lied about this situation which is by statute a breach of public trust... impeachable

You are still banking on the GOP refusing to hold Trump accountable, Congress now is, and it puts the senate in a place where they are forced to.

The right clear violation of the law put before the senate by congress, forces the senate to do the job they are sworn to do, which is uphold the law. McConnell can't just refuse to vote on it. The GOP ability to run interference for Trump is almost gone now.

Start clinging to the fact that at least we are stuck with Pence and he's as bad

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Feb 28, 2019 16:08:30   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
woodguru wrote:
I could easily list a dozen things that the right completely denies that are 100% true, it would be an exercise in the right explaining how "that" truth is no big thing when it is.Most would result in a Hillary or Obama did way worse, which is not the point at all if we are talking about something the current president did.


You mean things like Trump is a racist? Trump is a bigot? Trump colluded with Russia?

Or the other side: Hillary didn't mishandle classified information. or, Hillary didn't cheat to get the nomination. or, Hillary didn't destroy evidence. Or, The FBI didn't work with Hillary to get her elected. Or, Russian Bots, placing "ads" on facebook and chit chatting on forums got Trump elected.

Reality versus facts??

So, do you think the world will end in 12 years if we don't adopt the Green New Deal?? Have you stopped producing CO2 because you SO believe it to be so? Do you actually believe the fires in California this year were about climate change/global warming caused by man?? Do you think it's OK to kill a new born? Do we really need to be passing laws outlawing lynching?? Do you want to open the borders and tear down them immoral barriers?

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Feb 28, 2019 16:59:15   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Seth wrote:
Plenty of people. The one thing they all share is that they aren't shameless enough to go about with a (D) following their names.


How is your lying POS doing?



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Feb 28, 2019 20:31:45   #
Ricktloml
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Start off with a lie and the rest is suspect.

Michael Cohen's lawyer Lanny Davis starts GoFundMe page to help pay ex-Trump attorney's legal fees. 8/22/18
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/michael-cohen-apos-lawyer-lanny-133200911.html


Doesn't change the fact that Lanny Davis is a Democrat operative and close friend of Hillary. I guess it makes it so much better that the democrats are doing pro-bono work for Cohen. The point is Cohen is doing the Democrat's bidding. He is required to say all these things or no doubt he would be serving a lot more than 3 years.

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Feb 28, 2019 20:52:28   #
moldyoldy
 
Ricktloml wrote:
Doesn't change the fact that Lanny Davis is a Democrat operative and close friend of Hillary. I guess it makes it so much better that the democrats are doing pro-bono work for Cohen. The point is Cohen is doing the Democrat's bidding. He is required to say all these things or no doubt he would be serving a lot more than 3 years.


The paper trail does not matter to you

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