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Should there be Reparations for slavery???
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Feb 27, 2019 17:12:30   #
acknowledgeurma
 
Wonttakeitanymore wrote:
How about the Japanese Americans that were falsely interred, while their family members fought for our country! Many of them are probably still alive! Then again those people ain’t whining and askin!

See:
https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/08/09/210138278/japanese-internment-redress
Wherein:

In 1988, President Reagan signed the Civil Liberties Act to compensate more than 100,000 people of Japanese descent who were incarcerated in internment camps during World War II. The legislation offered a formal apology and paid out $20,000 in compensation to each surviving victim. The law won congressional approval only after a decade-long campaign by the Japanese-American community.

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Feb 27, 2019 17:13:13   #
bahmer
 
acknowledgeurma wrote:
Like my great great grandfather's job in 1860 of overseer? (Presumably too hazardous to risk to a slave.)


Weren't the Irish the ones that helped build many of the sky scrapers in the big cities? The ones where they are seated on an I beam about forty or fifty stories up swing their legs out in space? Pardon me but my stomach gets queasy just typing it. I am good for about three feet off of the ground and that is it. And that is on a good day.

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Feb 27, 2019 17:13:46   #
acknowledgeurma
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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The Democrats, liberals, socialists, and progressives are the NUMBER ONE enemies of the United States.

They want reparations for the blacks so that blacks will continue supporting them in every election. They are buying votes paid for by the American taxpayers.

Most of us became slaves in this country at the beginning, but we worked hard to overcome it.

Most of the blacks remained handouts, want the easy way. President Trump is the only president who've alleviated their situation. Obama used blacks to empower his own ambitions.
================= br The Democrats, liberals, soci... (show quote)



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Feb 27, 2019 17:14:43   #
acknowledgeurma
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
If you were raised by my parents you got a taste of what slavery was.

Well that certainly explains a lot.

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Feb 27, 2019 17:23:41   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
proud republican wrote:
What do you guys think???.....As for me...My ancestors werent even here....And if we were going to give reparations for this,then how about reparations to Russian Jews whose ancestors were murdered by Nazi Germany in Concentration Death Camps...Should we ask Germany to pay Jewish people for something that their Nazi ancestors were responsible for???....Simple question...

This is one of those bright ideas that just screams for a reductio ad absurdum analysis. Take the original premise, in this case, that some modern people should pay some other modern people 'reparations' for an injustice perpetrated some 150 years ago by some other people against yet other people, none of whom have any bearing or relationship to those living today; whether those supposedly paying up or those on the receiving end of this modern day transfer of funds. Now let's extrapolate that out.

The idea of the German people paying reparations to the Jews for the holocaust, for instance. Good idea. Then there's all the millions of people murdered by Communism in the 20th century. Shouldn't the Russian and Chinese governments be paying out for the loss of family members during these times of governmental insanity? It certainly seems to fit the sentiment, does it not? Pol Pot would certainly be in for some shellackings in that case, wouldn't he?

Then there's the people who sold all these other people into slavery in the first place. They were just as guilty of sustaining the African slave trade as the Yankee traders who gave them beads and tools in return for their captives, is that not so? They need to pony up as well, according to this logic.

Then we get into some really egregious injustices, like those perpetrated against women throughout the ages. How many women were kept down, humiliated, distrusted, belittled, you name it, all in the name of male dominance? More to the point, how much should the male half of the population pony up to their 'better halves' to make good on the misery they undoubtedly wrought upon their female counterparts? Half of everything? More? How do you quantify it? Is it even possible?

Taking this reparations idea to its logical conclusion, it appears that all of humanity owes all of humanity everything. Okay, so let's all pay each other, consider the trillions of debts retired, and go on with our lives just as we did before, because we all paid each other so we all finished up right back where we started.

Or we can simply learn from the past and resolve not to make those mistakes in the future. Deal?

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Feb 27, 2019 17:34:42   #
acknowledgeurma
 
bahmer wrote:
It was also accepted practice at the time not only in America but through out the world at that time.

It was not accepted practice by all. But who cares what progressives say?

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Feb 27, 2019 18:09:29   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
acknowledgeurma wrote:
It was not accepted practice by all. But who cares what progressives say?

Good question. Let me know if you find anyone.

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Feb 27, 2019 18:27:52   #
Mikeyavelli
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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That is beautiful. You know why? Because kids learn responsibility for themselves, to our country, and to others. I value the those things very much. I grew up the same way.

At present kids want free college education, and free Medicare system for all. They want everything for free.

And the democrats are support these kids, so that they vote for them.


I worked my way through college. Summer in the factories making good money, and, I wrote essays and term papers for money in college. Tended bar, waited tables and made it without any loans or outside funds. I didn't think that was great or anything, it's just what had to be done.
I'm now the evil poster boy for the left.
White straight well off retired male livin the dream.
I guess it all paid off. But honestly, I never thought I was treated unfairly or worked too hard, it's just the way things were.
Work and get ahead.
A man waits a long time for a roast chicken to fly into his mouth.

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Feb 27, 2019 18:31:40   #
olaydee
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
One of my older cousins Took a trip to Virginia and Tennessee looking for our roots. On my fathers side his grandfather was the descendent of German slaves and I guess so am I. Seems a group of Germans had booked passage on a ship to the Americas. They stopped in London England and there the ships captain sold his passengers to pay off gambling debts. They arrived in New York and were made slaves for several decades. They eventually made it to Virginia and Tennessee and gained their freedom. My brother had a DNA test done and it turns out that we have bloodlines from a few African countries. There must have been some slave breeding or intermarriage going on. I'm part African. That's Cool ! I don't want anything for what my ancestors went through. I'm just happy to be a free American--Mutt that I am
One of my older cousins Took a trip to Virginia an... (show quote)


Cool! There are a lot more mutts than there are purebreds. Gotta luv the mutts!! 🤪

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Feb 27, 2019 18:44:11   #
olaydee
 
Toby2guns wrote:
Well we better charge Africa as well, who do you think collected all those African slaves for sell? Their fellow Africans. That would include tribes that were at war and the Dutch slave traders that brought them to America. Who is going to pay reparations to the families of all the whites that lost their lives during the Civil War freeing the slaves anyone have an answer for that ??


“Who is going to pay reparations to the families of all the whites.........”

WOW!! That is one of the best question I have ever seen on this topic. 10++stars 4U 😊

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Feb 27, 2019 19:02:17   #
olaydee
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:


I knew it! You are still reading OPP, even though you backed off. You CANNOT help yourself! Please keep posting. Your comments are usually right on and always thought-provoking. And you have made many friends here.

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Feb 27, 2019 19:04:22   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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Tell him to go back to Lagos and fix his own Crap Hole country.


He is an American citizen and has been for 30 years

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Feb 27, 2019 19:05:15   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
olaydee wrote:
Cool! There are a lot more mutts than there are purebreds. Gotta luv the mutts!! 🤪



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Feb 27, 2019 19:10:49   #
plainlogic
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
I believe that everyone living today who once owned a slave should pay reparations to anyone they once held as a slave. Other than that, forget it. No one should be forced to pay for what someone else did over which they had no control. Nor should anyone benefit from the misfortune of others.


Well, if that's the route, then, let's check your ancestry and if any of these people did something like owning a slave, robbing someone. Then YOU owe them reparations, right?

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Feb 27, 2019 19:12:12   #
A Thinker
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
I believe that everyone living today who once owned a slave should pay reparations to anyone they once held as a slave. Other than that, forget it. No one should be forced to pay for what someone else did over which they had no control. Nor should anyone benefit from the misfortune of others.


I believe as you do. When we find a person any person that was sold into slavery all the previous owners of that person or persons need to pay reparations to that person or persons they held as slaves. That is fair.
Now all you liberal democrats that came over on the Mayflower step forward and fess up. Now if your family is like mine and migrated here after slavery was abolished, clawed, scraped,worked at filthy jobs just to eat and feel no one owes you a living, reparations are not for you.

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