tNotMyPrez wrote:
I would like to refer to that as a SCHEME rather than a plan.
tNotMyPrez,your name is wrong...President Trump is YOUR President since you live in USA...Just like obama unfortunately was my President..See whether you like it or not as long as you live in the US,you just have live with it..Or you can just LEAVE US and then President will not be your Prez!!!
woodguru wrote:
The right has already made up their minds what they believe, and they believe that everything Cohen says will be a lie...
No matter how believable something he says is, no matter what hard evidence supports it, no matter that Trump has actually openly said in public something that supports it...
...those who are the "loyal" cult followers will support this to the end.
No matter how ridiculous or unbelievable something is, if it is negative and attributed to Trump, you Liberals will believe it, no proof. or even evidence required.
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Ignore facts all you like, it doesn't make them any less true.
As for your assertion that I am a progressive, I can go with that, I do believe in progressing rather than regressing. If you mean that you think I am a Liberal or a Democrat, believe as you wish, we all know that you can't change a Conservative's mind with facts, they tend to ignore those pesky inconvenient truths.
Who doesn't think they know the facts? Lol
It's interesting people tend to lump all conservatives and progressives or liberals together. They are far from all the same.
I don't see today's progressive movement as progression. Amorality is regressive is it not? What I'd like to see is the democrat party go back in time to what it used to be. They could really use a JFK or RFK. Today's leadership is anemic.
Republicans could also use a kick in the butt - to put it nicely.
Time for people to defect to a third party
proud republican wrote:
tNotMyPrez,your name is wrong...President Trump is YOUR President since you live in USA...Just like obama unfortunately was my President..See whether you like it or not as long as you live in the US,you just have live with it..Or you can just LEAVE US and then President will not be your Prez!!!
Too bad you think my name is wrong - - civil protest is the right and responsibility of every American - - that you believe such a patriotic citizen should leave is beyond the pale, and says much about you.
Maybe you should rename your ID - - strike the "proud" and change it to "ashamed"...
Perhaps you will after you listen to Cohen - - if you're open-minded enough to listen.
Rose42 wrote:
(...snipped...) Time for people to defect to a third party
Oh, wouldn't the trumplethinskin supporters just love that - - a 3rd party would pretty much dilute the Dem voters and guarantee a second term for him - -
NO THANKS...
tNotMyPrez wrote:
Too bad you think my name is wrong - - civil protest is the right and responsibility of every American - - that you believe such a patriotic citizen should leave is beyond the pale, and says much about you.
Maybe you should rename your ID - - strike the "proud" and change it to "ashamed"...
Perhaps you will after you listen to Cohen - - if you're open-minded enough to listen.
Inaccurate may be a better word. We can and should protest what we think is wrong. Whatever your personal view if you are a citizen of the US then whoever is in office is your president. Like it or not.
We'll see what unfolds. Either way it goes I'm quite certain we will never know the full truth.
woodguru wrote:
The right has already made up their minds what they believe, and they believe that everything Cohen says will be a lie...
No matter how believable something he says is, no matter what hard evidence supports it, no matter that Trump has actually openly said in public something that supports it...
...those who are the "loyal" cult followers will support this to the end.
If there were any evidence, Trump would have already been impeached
padremike wrote:
Sorry Charlie no cigar. You're wrong about the tax cut but I can sympathize because you're sipping mother's sour milk. The reason many are not getting as much back is because less tax was taken out of their pay. That's a good thing.
Obama care was good for those who could not afford medical care. But it hurt even more people who could. Their premiums went up dramatically and their deductible was in the thousands. They probably would have been better off buying a catastrophic policy and paying for family care out of pocket. Furthermore, we will never be able to afford QUALITY government funded health care. Medicare is going broke, military health care is in trouble, Veterans, Indian, all of them. And you Progressives think you can provide free health care, free college, free this, free that and you're nuts, totally and completely nuts. Take a week off and go to Venezuela and eat out of a garbage truck like many are doing to survive.
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Mike, of course the withholding should match the tax rate.. I have no idea if these people were negligent or simply used the rate prescribed by the govt..
Those withholding rates were to make the weekly pay check larger for the appearance of it being a good tax bill..
If they had done any home work, and paid in properly, they would not have had any problem now, but would have had a few dollars less in take home pay..
That was designed in by the tax people..
Look at the timing for the tax bill, bad things for the middle/working only go into effect after elections..
I also do not think I mentioned this part of the tax bill, but thanks for pointing it out..
Health care... Why are we the only developed country which can not controll the health costs??
Medicare is the most efficiently run medical plan we have, yet it does need change.
at the very least we should be able to negotiate the cost of drugs..
Why would anyone want to go to Venezuela?
It will soon be full of American troops or fighting its own civil war or with Columbia. as a puppet for the US.
But I think we will have a handy little oil war to change focus from the crime boss..
tNotMyPrez wrote:
Too bad you think my name is wrong - - civil protest is the right and responsibility of every American - - that you believe such a patriotic citizen should leave is beyond the pale, and says much about you.
Maybe you should rename your ID - - strike the "proud" and change it to "ashamed"...
Perhaps you will after you listen to Cohen - - if you're open-minded enough to listen.
Sure, I'm open-minded enough to listen to a convicted perjurer. Belief is another matter. Peaceful petition for redress of grievances is enshrined in the Bill of Rights. It's even in the part that Liberals agree with.
tNotMyPrez wrote:
Oh, wouldn't the trumplethinskin supporters just love that - - a 3rd party would pretty much dilute the Dem voters and guarantee a second term for him - - NO THANKS...
You have no problem with dilution of and suppression of anyone or anything with whom or which you disagree.
tNotMyPrez wrote:
Oh, wouldn't the trumplethinskin supporters just love that - - a 3rd party would pretty much dilute the Dem voters and guarantee a second term for him - - NO THANKS...
You're being myopic.
If Trump gets in again the blame would be again be shared by democrats for not putting forth a viable candidate. So far the ones who've announced are anemic at best.
The third party is for those who are sick and tired of the democrats and republicans putting party over country. Its a shame people won't think outside the box.
War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength
tNotMyPrez wrote:
Too bad you think my name is wrong - - civil protest is the right and responsibility of every American - - that you believe such a patriotic citizen should leave is beyond the pale, and says much about you.
Maybe you should rename your ID - - strike the "proud" and change it to "ashamed"...
Perhaps you will after you listen to Cohen - - if you're open-minded enough to listen.
"ashamed"?
How "proud" you must be of those you support.
tNotMyPrez wrote:
"How can anyone believe [a] proven liar..."
Wait, wait - - STOP RIGHT THERE - - How can ANYONE believe DJ tRump, with over 9,000 "proven" lies already to his credit in barely over two years as an inappropriate president?
Are you keeping a list of the lies?
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