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Feb 26, 2019 19:10:43   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
byronglimish wrote:
Bullbiden!


Okay, this shows just what kind of person you are, you have no facts to argue your narrative so you just say "Bullbiden!". Honestly, no response would have been better than the one you chose to "counter" with.

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Feb 26, 2019 19:18:43   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Odd, I don't recall anyone providing any such link to any evidence of this paranoid fantasy that you all seem to cling so desperately to. Perhaps if you had provided such a link, I may humor you by examining your "evidence" and who knows, you may convince me, though knowing how conspiracies go, I tend to doubt you WILL have any evidence, just more speculation. Prove me wrong if you have any such "evidence".


You have convinced me that you are just a game playing troll from the dark side, you must also be an atheist.

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Feb 26, 2019 19:20:38   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
byronglimish wrote:
You have convinced me that you are just a game playing troll from the dark side, you must also be an atheist.


No, you have convinced yourself of those things because you can not and will not back anything you say with any facts.

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Feb 26, 2019 19:31:08   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
No, you have convinced yourself of those things because you can not and will not back anything you say with any facts.


You already admitted that You have no interest in looking at something you claim is paranoia.

You like many domestic jihadists have no interest in hard facts, it ruins your buzz of delusion.

So like a hateful psychotic woman, you can get it the last word.

I will allow it.

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Feb 26, 2019 19:31:37   #
vernon
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Democrats are realizing that the chances of President Trump being charged with a federal crime are decreasing rapidly. Therefore, they will achieve it at the state level. The plan will be to get a highly partisan Democrat DA, probably in New York, to impanel a "special Grand Jury" By special I mean hand picked to ensure an indictment. Now, all must be sure to understand that the Democrats are really concerned about the rule of law, the people's right to know or guilt or innocence. We have been shown multiple times that the practice guilt by accusation. The Democrats believe that just by obtaining an indictment they can get Trump, which is their goal. They are totally driven by hate and nothing else. I will give two examples where they have done this before. Then Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson had charges brought against her by a partisan Democrat DA in hopes of driving her from office. It did not work and the case was so weak that when it came time for the trial he had to admit he had nothing and did not even present a case. The judge ordered the jury to give a directed verdict of not guilty. Democrats used the same tactic on Tom Delay and were able to get a conviction in a highly Democrat district. However, both the district appeals court and the state Supreme Court ruled there was insufficient evidence to show he had committed any crime and overturned his conviction. The Democrats did not care because they had achieved their goal of getting him out of office. The only thing I am not sure of is the timing of the Democrats' move to indict Trump. They may do it soon and call for him to resign, which he is unlikely to do and it will lead to a long legal battle. My best guess is that they may wait until the 2020 election and use it as an "October Surprise" so he has no time to defend himself. Remember, the Democrats goal is to get Trump and the end justifies the means with truth, fairness, the law or anything else not standing in their way.
Democrats are realizing that the chances of Presid... (show quote)


Its time to get control of these outlaw demoRATS.They are trying to pull the same shot on Trump they did on Tom Delay and Ted Stevens ---That was as criminal as anything I've seen and no one tried to help eiother one of them.


've seen.

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Feb 26, 2019 19:53:00   #
vernon
 
woodguru wrote:
Back it up to the heart of this, how about when Trump actually did the crimes he's being charged with and the evidence happens to be there because he did?

You get so caught up in the outrage of these prosecutors making things up you stop looking at whether Trump did the things or not. Actually it's pretty obvious he did but your rhetorical narrative has started with the premise his crimes were no worse than Hillary or Obama's, thereby leading to the realm of evidence being made up when it wasn't. Charges are in cold harsh black and white, the crime is listed by statute, and the charge is outlined with relevant proof. The Hillary did it too, or Obama did worse defense will not play in a court of law.

The way Trump did and does business is and was dirty, he is an easy target. I think we all know Trump heavily misused nonprofit foundation funds, we've already seen documentation that proves he spent funds on personal things, but you think that Hillary did too so it's irrelevant...newsflash, it's not irrelevant.

Misusing campaign or inauguration funds is not irrelevant either. Money laundering is not irrelevant, imoluments is not irrelevant, Kushner extorting hundreds of millions (billions) from Qatar is relevant. The difference between Obama and Trump is that Trump left evidence all over the place. The FBI doesn't have to make it up.
Back it up to the heart of this, how about when Tr... (show quote)


Just what crimes are you saying he is guilty of.You say the charge is outlined with relevant proof now lets see it or are you just blowing smoke as usual?

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Feb 26, 2019 19:58:33   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
byronglimish wrote:
You already admitted that You have no interest in looking at something you claim is paranoia.

You like many domestic jihadists have no interest in hard facts, it ruins your buzz of delusion.

So like a hateful psychotic woman, you can get it the last word.

I will allow it.


True, I will not search for a needle in a haystack (actual evidence that the deep state theory is true) but if you would like to provide evidence that it truly exists, I will definitely read it.

Your reading comprehension seems quite lacking, I am not affiliated with ANY party much less these Democrats you and your ilk tries to lump me in with. Also you show your ignorance when you assume that Democrats are all "jihadists".

You further fail when you claim that I (and my crony Democrats since obviously I am a Democrat because you say I am) have no interest in facts. If you were to actually provide any instead of just paranoid delusions, we would consider the evidence for whatever it would be worth. You just don't provide any because you can't, you didn't base your paranoid delusion on facts, you based it on the fact that your media talking heads told you it was so so obviously it MUST be so. Can I let you in on something? They didn't base their theories on facts either, just speculation.

As for your last "point" another fail. You assume that I hate you, that I am a woman and that I am concerned about "getting the last word", all failures.

I have tried to let you maintain your delusions but when you try to force me to accept them, that is where I draw the line, I have no desire to delve deep into someone else's paranoid delusions.


Do you even have any clue the life of a conspiracy theory? Typically it starts off as a paranoid thought of personal, religious, partisan persecution, when challenged, those that hold onto these theories do their best to explain away the factual objections presented against their theory. As the theory encounters more factual objections, the theory MUST grow more and more complex to try to explain away the inconsistencies, the theory takes on more layers, more complexity and in such a case as a "deep state" theory, it MUST remain somewhat vague or it stands too much of a chance to be instantly shot down by taking out even one leg upon which it attempts to stand.

That is perhaps the leading reason that you CAN'T provide any facts to support your theory, those creating and altering it to stand against scrutiny have not provided any facts to support it to prevent it from crashing down around you and others as nobody can prove a negative. We can't disprove it to the true believers because they provide no facts for us to debunk.



P.S. An internet troll is typically the one making accusations that can't be proven and refuses to provide any facts to support their claims. Since I am willing to look over the evidence that you refuse to provide, who exactly would be the troll here?

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Feb 26, 2019 20:02:52   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
vernon wrote:
Just what crimes are you saying he is guilty of.You say the charge is outlined with relevant proof now lets see it or are you just blowing smoke as usual?


Best to wait for the DOJ to reveal their findings, actual information trumps speculation any day of the week.

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Feb 26, 2019 20:20:40   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Best to wait for the DOJ to reveal their findings, actual information trumps speculation any day of the week.


Robert Muellers report will go to the Attorney General who will present it to Congress then to the general public.

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Feb 26, 2019 20:56:46   #
badbob85037
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Democrats are realizing that the chances of President Trump being charged with a federal crime are decreasing rapidly. Therefore, they will achieve it at the state level. The plan will be to get a highly partisan Democrat DA, probably in New York, to impanel a "special Grand Jury" By special I mean hand picked to ensure an indictment. Now, all must be sure to understand that the Democrats are really concerned about the rule of law, the people's right to know or guilt or innocence. We have been shown multiple times that the practice guilt by accusation. The Democrats believe that just by obtaining an indictment they can get Trump, which is their goal. They are totally driven by hate and nothing else. I will give two examples where they have done this before. Then Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson had charges brought against her by a partisan Democrat DA in hopes of driving her from office. It did not work and the case was so weak that when it came time for the trial he had to admit he had nothing and did not even present a case. The judge ordered the jury to give a directed verdict of not guilty. Democrats used the same tactic on Tom Delay and were able to get a conviction in a highly Democrat district. However, both the district appeals court and the state Supreme Court ruled there was insufficient evidence to show he had committed any crime and overturned his conviction. The Democrats did not care because they had achieved their goal of getting him out of office. The only thing I am not sure of is the timing of the Democrats' move to indict Trump. They may do it soon and call for him to resign, which he is unlikely to do and it will lead to a long legal battle. My best guess is that they may wait until the 2020 election and use it as an "October Surprise" so he has no time to defend himself. Remember, the Democrats goal is to get Trump and the end justifies the means with truth, fairness, the law or anything else not standing in their way.
Democrats are realizing that the chances of Presid... (show quote)


In the end if there is a thing called justice left in this country these investigations will lead to the arrest and convictions of Obama and his whole administration. Trump didn't send Iran billions in cash. Trump didn't arm our enemies. Trump didn't use a hammer on his i-pods and phones or bleach bit on his e-mails. Trump hasn't lied on American deaths. Trump hasn't used genocide on tens of thousands of people he told America he had to save or murdered American children. We have to get our priorities straight and that will never happen as long as we have these brain dead libtards who need extinguished.

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Feb 27, 2019 06:06:53   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
badbob85037 wrote:
In the end if there is a thing called justice left in this country these investigations will lead to the arrest and convictions of Obama and his whole administration. Trump didn't send Iran billions in cash. Trump didn't arm our enemies. Trump didn't use a hammer on his i-pods and phones or bleach bit on his e-mails. Trump hasn't lied on American deaths. Trump hasn't used genocide on tens of thousands of people he told America he had to save or murdered American children. We have to get our priorities straight and that will never happen as long as we have these brain dead libtards who need extinguished.
In the end if there is a thing called justice left... (show quote)


Thank you, very well put!

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Feb 27, 2019 08:43:14   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
badbob85037 wrote:
In the end if there is a thing called justice left in this country these investigations will lead to the arrest and convictions of Obama and his whole administration. Trump didn't send Iran billions in cash. Trump didn't arm our enemies. Trump didn't use a hammer on his i-pods and phones or bleach bit on his e-mails. Trump hasn't lied on American deaths. Trump hasn't used genocide on tens of thousands of people he told America he had to save or murdered American children. We have to get our priorities straight and that will never happen as long as we have these brain dead libtards who need extinguished.
In the end if there is a thing called justice left... (show quote)


I agree.

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Feb 27, 2019 13:51:25   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Yes, lack of proof. Some people, like myself, we require even a shred of evidence before we will consider believing in things, even a mere shred of evidence will go much further than just some paranoid fantasy.


Here's a little shred you might like to see: https://youtu.be/S9qugiX6uYY

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Feb 27, 2019 14:46:04   #
Sew_What
 
badbob85037 wrote:
In the end if there is a thing called justice left in this country these investigations will lead to the arrest and convictions of Obama and his whole administration. Trump didn't send Iran billions in cash. Trump didn't arm our enemies. Trump didn't use a hammer on his i-pods and phones or bleach bit on his e-mails. Trump hasn't lied on American deaths. Trump hasn't used genocide on tens of thousands of people he told America he had to save or murdered American children. We have to get our priorities straight and that will never happen as long as we have these brain dead libtards who need extinguished.
In the end if there is a thing called justice left... (show quote)


What exactly did Obama and his Administration do, The Republicans didn't turn up anything after 10 years and in less than a year we got people that should have locked a decade ago (i.e. Stone, Manafort)...stop gossiping.

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Feb 27, 2019 16:27:06   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
Here's a little shred you might like to see: https://youtu.be/S9qugiX6uYY


Oh yes, a video created by a Conspiracy theorist has changed my mind about "deep state" how could I have been so wrong for so long?

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