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Intelligence Says Kim Is Not Adhering To Agreements...Trump Says He Doesn't Believe That, He Believes Putin, And Patriots Say?
Feb 20, 2019 17:29:57   #
woodguru
 
This is so mind blowing it's hard to believe, yet we live in an era where it is totally believable.

Intelligence has satellite images showing Kim escalating and ramping up facilities, they are not speculating when they give the president updates as to the status of North Korea's nuclear status.

But for Trump to say I don't believe that, I talked to Putin and I believe what he says.

Intelligence heads should be scheduling an emergency meeting with both the house and senate intelligence committees and make their best case for why the president poses danger to our national security.

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Feb 20, 2019 17:31:21   #
woodguru
 
...and just when has Trump had a chance to "talk" to Putin and get this sage intelligence directly from Putin?

Sounds like he has his secure back channel

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Feb 20, 2019 18:20:40   #
steve66613
 
woodguru wrote:
...and just when has Trump had a chance to "talk" to Putin and get this sage intelligence directly from Putin?

Sounds like he has his secure back channel


Pretty sad when your enemies are less likely to be lying to you, than your own intelligence agencies!

One can rest assured: Trump knows he could send a missile up Lil’ Kim’s @ss in less than 20 minutes, any time, any day.....literally!

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Feb 20, 2019 18:39:58   #
woodguru
 
steve66613 wrote:
Pretty sad when your enemies are less likely to be lying to you, than your own intelligence agencies!

One can rest assured: Trump knows he could send a missile up Lil’ Kim’s @ss in less than 20 minutes, any time, any day.....literally!


Our intelligence agencies are not lying to Trump, everything they say will have proof if Trump needs it and cares to listen.

What's beyond sad is that you have a take on this that it's okay for Trump to believe Putin over our intelligence services, that you could even think they can't be believed is incredible.

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Feb 20, 2019 18:54:59   #
Rose42
 
Link?

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Feb 20, 2019 19:58:01   #
steve66613
 
woodguru wrote:
Our intelligence agencies are not lying to Trump, everything they say will have proof if Trump needs it and cares to listen.

What's beyond sad is that you have a take on this that it's okay for Trump to believe Putin over our intelligence services, that you could even think they can't be believed is incredible.


Nope....very credible. I suppose you think Comey, Page, Strzok, McCabe, and Rosenstein were having Sunday school meetings.....the ones where they were conspiring a coup against our president.

Ooooooh nooooo! They’re the patriots you revere!

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Feb 20, 2019 20:39:00   #
steve66613
 
steve66613 wrote:
Nope....very credible. I suppose you think Comey, Page, Strzok, McCabe, and Rosenstein were having Sunday school meetings.....the ones where they were conspiring a coup against our president.

Ooooooh nooooo! They’re the patriots you revere!


Hmmmmmm......crickets.....

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Feb 21, 2019 02:15:01   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
woodguru wrote:
This is so mind blowing it's hard to believe, yet we live in an era where it is totally believable.

Intelligence has satellite images showing Kim escalating and ramping up facilities, they are not speculating when they give the president updates as to the status of North Korea's nuclear status.

But for Trump to say I don't believe that, I talked to Putin and I believe what he says.

Intelligence heads should be scheduling an emergency meeting with both the house and senate intelligence committees and make their best case for why the president poses danger to our national security.
This is so mind blowing it's hard to believe, yet ... (show quote)


While I agree with you that POTUS 45 could be more 'diplomatic' concerning how he speaks [bof[/b]] the intelligence services, there is somethong to be said for how he presents his views to the international arena...

By consistently praising NK for 'keeping' their word, and making overtures for open and friendly dialogue, he is Giving NK an opportunity to cast off the stigma of past regimes and enter into the world stage...

In my opinion this has been long overdue...
I would think that these talks would be supported more by Democrats than Republicans...

@woodguru... Could you explain why you believe these talks are wrong?

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Feb 21, 2019 13:56:25   #
woodguru
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
While I agree with you that POTUS 45 could be more 'diplomatic' concerning how he speaks [bof[/b]] the intelligence services, there is somethong to be said for how he presents his views to the international arena...

By consistently praising NK for 'keeping' their word, and making overtures for open and friendly dialogue, he is Giving NK an opportunity to cast off the stigma of past regimes and enter into the world stage...

In my opinion this has been long overdue...
I would think that these talks would be supported more by Democrats than Republicans...

@woodguru... Could you explain why you believe these talks are wrong?
While I agree with you that POTUS 45 could be more... (show quote)


Where did you get the idea I think these talks are wrong?

I have a problem with Trump's failure to absorb any intelligence, he has the attention span of a gnat and openly says he believes Putin? Putin is an ultimate player in the world of misinformation and propaganda, and it is no surprise that Trump has an affinity, the problem is putting Russia's interests over ours.

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Feb 21, 2019 18:14:26   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
woodguru wrote:
Where did you get the idea I think these talks are wrong?

I have a problem with Trump's failure to absorb any intelligence, he has the attention span of a gnat and openly says he believes Putin? Putin is an ultimate player in the world of misinformation and propaganda, and it is no surprise that Trump has an affinity, the problem is putting Russia's interests over ours.


My apologies... I interpreted your statements wrongly...

I can understand sone of what you are implying... I am just unconvinced that Trump has been acting in Putin's favor...

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Feb 21, 2019 20:03:35   #
woodguru
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
My apologies... I interpreted your statements wrongly...

I can understand sone of what you are implying... I am just unconvinced that Trump has been acting in Putin's favor...


Lifting sanctions, any form of doing anything that increases Russia's cash flow is furthering Russia's war machine. Here is an area I know what I'm talking about, I had a top secret clearance in nuclear missile systems and strategic intelligence. I followed the cold war in terms of military superiority and know that the US destroyed Russia financially to where they had superior hardware developed that Putin could not afford to put into manufacturing. Sanctions had military strategic purposes. The Exxon deal to put $500 Billion cash in Putin's hands is treasonous, and I think Exxon moved on with that agreement as soon as Trump took office and they repealed the requirement that corporations disclose payments to foreign entities. Why would they do that if it wasn't so Exxon could proceed with paying Putin?

Trump has single handedly and with unilateral policies he pulled out of his butt, (because he didn't have any intelligence or military advisory support) deeply improved Putin's revenue and positions around the world in conflict areas. To give an inch with Putin costs a mile.

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