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Feb 16, 2019 19:20:38   #
TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA
 
4430 wrote:
Pass administrations all tooted border security and the Dem's voted for funds and made comments about border security but did nothing now that Trumps aim is to fix it now they are doing everything they can to stop it !

Seems as though they were all talk and not really wanting to do anything so they show themselves the Hypocrites they really are !


Their hypocrisy knows no bounds. If it were mere hypocrisy, they’d only be fractionally as dangerous as what they are: literally out to destroy this country!

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Feb 16, 2019 19:37:05   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
padremike wrote:
It's only an abuse of power the first time Trump uses it not the 17 times Obama did it. It would be fantastic if you progs took up your muskets and sling shots and ran into the streets looking for trouble. Why aren't you doing it? We know why don't we? You bet we do! That's OK, it's easy to be an aggressive anonymous hero.



Better check your count, but more important, which of these emergencies do you feel were inappropriate?

Also, follow the link and compare trump 4 past declorations with this made up, silly border joke..


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-many-national-emergencies-have-been-called-by-presidents/

President Barack Obama
Oct. 23, 2009: Declaration of a National Emergency With Respect to the 2009 H1N1 Influenza Pandemic, was never terminated or continued;
April 12, 2010 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in Somalia, continued in 2018;
Feb. 25, 2011 (still in effect): Blocking Property and Prohibiting Certain Transactions Related to Libya, continued in February 2018;
July 24, 2011 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Transnational Criminal Organizations, continued in July 2018;
May 16, 2012 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Persons Threatening the Peace, Security, or Stability of Yemen, continued in May 2012;
June 25, 2012: Blocking Property of the Government of the Russian Federation Relating to the Disposition of Highly Enriched Uranium Extracted from Nuclear Weapons, revoked in 2015;
March 6, 2014 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Ukraine, continued in March 2018;
April 3, 2014 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons With Respect to South Sudan, continued in March 2018;
May 12, 2014 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in the Central African Republic, continued in May 2018;
March 8, 2015 (still in effect): Blocking Property and Suspending Entry of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Venezuela, continued in March 2018;
April 1, 2015 (still in effect): Blocking the Property of Certain Persons Engaging in Significant Malicious Cyber-Enabled Activities, continued in March 2018;
Nov. 22, 2015 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Burundi, continued in November 2018.

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Feb 16, 2019 19:39:48   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
They don't have the guts. Anyway, she's no 'political opponent', she's the embodiment of all that's wrong in our society and political system as a whole. A political opponent is someone you can debate on a problem or idea and get sensible arguments or statements. She has neither. There's an act of Congress going back to 2006 calling for a wall on our southern border. Presidents from Bush 43, through Obama 44 and now Trump 45 have all built portions of that wall, the only difference between then and now is 'Trump'. It must be immoral because 'Trump'. It must be illegal because 'Trump'. It must be corrupt because 'Trump'.

It makes me sick to the pit of my stomach to see how they get away with badmouthing the one man who has the inclination and abilities to repair a very broken system.

Shooting is too good for her. I'm thinking impalement (-ing?), like old Vlad did back in the day. I understand it took days for victims to actually die. Yeah, I like that better for her. Straight up the middle.
They don't have the guts. Anyway, she's no 'polit... (show quote)


She's an idiot. Thinks CO2 drives climate when it is a trailing indicator by 600 to 800 years that the climate changed. Thinks that a tax credit offered by government over ten years is paid to the business up front in cash, and LOTS more that shows her utter incompetence.

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Feb 16, 2019 20:32:12   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
permafrost wrote:
Better check your count, but more important, which of these emergencies do you feel were inappropriate?

Also, follow the link and compare trump 4 past declorations with this made up, silly border joke..


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-many-national-emergencies-have-been-called-by-presidents/

President Barack Obama
Oct. 23, 2009: Declaration of a National Emergency With Respect to the 2009 H1N1 Influenza Pandemic, was never terminated or continued;
April 12, 2010 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in Somalia, continued in 2018;
Feb. 25, 2011 (still in effect): Blocking Property and Prohibiting Certain Transactions Related to Libya, continued in February 2018;
July 24, 2011 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Transnational Criminal Organizations, continued in July 2018;
May 16, 2012 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Persons Threatening the Peace, Security, or Stability of Yemen, continued in May 2012;
June 25, 2012: Blocking Property of the Government of the Russian Federation Relating to the Disposition of Highly Enriched Uranium Extracted from Nuclear Weapons, revoked in 2015;
March 6, 2014 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Ukraine, continued in March 2018;
April 3, 2014 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons With Respect to South Sudan, continued in March 2018;
May 12, 2014 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in the Central African Republic, continued in May 2018;
March 8, 2015 (still in effect): Blocking Property and Suspending Entry of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Venezuela, continued in March 2018;
April 1, 2015 (still in effect): Blocking the Property of Certain Persons Engaging in Significant Malicious Cyber-Enabled Activities, continued in March 2018;
Nov. 22, 2015 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Burundi, continued in November 2018.
Better check your count, but more important, which... (show quote)


Isn't it truly laudable that we finally have a president with the integrity and guts to stand up for American citizens and try and stop an invasions by criminal illegal aliens into our sovereign nation. He's standing up against the thoroughly incompetent House of Representatives whose only motivation is to deny Trump anything all the while attempting a coup. Hopefully they'll go far enough and cross a line whereby he can declare martial law and.....lock them up in a super max! 250 feet underground. Go Trump Go! Would you like to join them as a roadguard or hall monitor?

Regardless of what you believe, American citizens are more important to our nation than criminal illegal aliens of which every single one, Dreamers included, should be deported. It makes no sense why you feather merchants are complacent in allowing illegals into America. Your so called compassion is completely misplaced.

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Feb 16, 2019 21:31:44   #
L8erToots
 
permafrost wrote:
Better check your count, but more important, which of these emergencies do you feel were inappropriate?

Also, follow the link and compare trump 4 past declorations with this made up, silly border joke..


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-many-national-emergencies-have-been-called-by-presidents/

President Barack Obama
Oct. 23, 2009: Declaration of a National Emergency With Respect to the 2009 H1N1 Influenza Pandemic, was never terminated or continued;
April 12, 2010 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in Somalia, continued in 2018;
Feb. 25, 2011 (still in effect): Blocking Property and Prohibiting Certain Transactions Related to Libya, continued in February 2018;
July 24, 2011 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Transnational Criminal Organizations, continued in July 2018;
May 16, 2012 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Persons Threatening the Peace, Security, or Stability of Yemen, continued in May 2012;
June 25, 2012: Blocking Property of the Government of the Russian Federation Relating to the Disposition of Highly Enriched Uranium Extracted from Nuclear Weapons, revoked in 2015;
March 6, 2014 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Ukraine, continued in March 2018;
April 3, 2014 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons With Respect to South Sudan, continued in March 2018;
May 12, 2014 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in the Central African Republic, continued in May 2018;
March 8, 2015 (still in effect): Blocking Property and Suspending Entry of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Venezuela, continued in March 2018;
April 1, 2015 (still in effect): Blocking the Property of Certain Persons Engaging in Significant Malicious Cyber-Enabled Activities, continued in March 2018;
Nov. 22, 2015 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Burundi, continued in November 2018.
Better check your count, but more important, which... (show quote)
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-blocking-property-persons-involved-serious-human-rights-abuse-corruption/

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Feb 16, 2019 23:03:59   #
2bltap Loc: Move to the Mainland
 
Well to end this little debate about Pelosi let's end it on a really nice note ok? She wished us all a very HAPPY THANKSGIVING Day either yesterday or today. Really thoughtful huh?

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Feb 17, 2019 01:55:49   #
Weasel Loc: In the Great State Of Indiana!!
 
permafrost wrote:
Better check your count, but more important, which of these emergencies do you feel were inappropriate?

Also, follow the link and compare trump 4 past declorations with this made up, silly border joke..


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-many-national-emergencies-have-been-called-by-presidents/

President Barack Obama
Oct. 23, 2009: Declaration of a National Emergency With Respect to the 2009 H1N1 Influenza Pandemic, was never terminated or continued;
April 12, 2010 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in Somalia, continued in 2018;
Feb. 25, 2011 (still in effect): Blocking Property and Prohibiting Certain Transactions Related to Libya, continued in February 2018;
July 24, 2011 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Transnational Criminal Organizations, continued in July 2018;
May 16, 2012 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Persons Threatening the Peace, Security, or Stability of Yemen, continued in May 2012;
June 25, 2012: Blocking Property of the Government of the Russian Federation Relating to the Disposition of Highly Enriched Uranium Extracted from Nuclear Weapons, revoked in 2015;
March 6, 2014 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Ukraine, continued in March 2018;
April 3, 2014 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons With Respect to South Sudan, continued in March 2018;
May 12, 2014 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in the Central African Republic, continued in May 2018;
March 8, 2015 (still in effect): Blocking Property and Suspending Entry of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Venezuela, continued in March 2018;
April 1, 2015 (still in effect): Blocking the Property of Certain Persons Engaging in Significant Malicious Cyber-Enabled Activities, continued in March 2018;
Nov. 22, 2015 (still in effect): Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Burundi, continued in November 2018.
Better check your count, but more important, which... (show quote)



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Feb 17, 2019 08:52:04   #
snowbear37 Loc: MA.
 
woodguru wrote:
such a waste...do you not understand when someone says "Trump doing what he's doing would be like us doing this"? She's saying don't do this, put a stop to it, this is an abuse of power that we do not need to set as a precedent.


That is NOT what she meant. This is not the first time a "national emergency" was declared by a President and it DOESN'T "set a precedent". It's only an "abuse of power" when the Dems don't like the emergency.

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Feb 17, 2019 11:08:54   #
TrueAmerican
 
Seth wrote:
What was she doing when Obama and his "czars" were issuing barrage after barrage of edicts wherein Congress' permission wasn't an issue?

Collecting stamps?



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Feb 17, 2019 11:09:46   #
TrueAmerican
 
badbobby wrote:
Nancy sometimes opens her mouth her wisdom comes out


VERY doubtful !!!!!!

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Feb 17, 2019 12:05:37   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
snowbear37 wrote:
That is NOT what she meant. This is not the first time a "national emergency" was declared by a President and it DOESN'T "set a precedent". It's only an "abuse of power" when the Dems don't like the emergency.

Bingo!

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Feb 17, 2019 12:06:39   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
TrueAmerican wrote:
VERY doubtful !!!!!!
VERY doubtful !!!!!! img src="https://static.onep... (show quote)

He's being sarcastic. I fell for it too so don't worry about it, it's him, not you.

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Feb 17, 2019 12:14:43   #
CarryOn
 
badbobby wrote:
Nancy sometimes opens her mouth her wisdom comes out



Which proves only that wisdom does not necessarily come with age. It would seem that whatever wisdom she might have had escaped from that mouth a long time ago.

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Feb 17, 2019 12:46:59   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
How's this for a headline?

Pelosi Warns Democrats Could Declare Emergency to Seize Americans’ Guns

Yep, she really did say that.

https://neonnettle.com/news/6524-pelosi-warns-democrats-could-declare-emergency-to-seize-americans-guns

"Nancy Pelosi lashed out during a press conference, warning that Democrats could also use the measure to enforce gun control and seize Americans' weapons."

Remember the last time a despot tried to disarm the American People? It didn't end well for them, and it won't be any different the next time.
How's this for a headline? br br Pelosi Warns Dem... (show quote)


Nancy Pelosi is full of crap only the President can declare a National emergency.

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Feb 17, 2019 18:31:46   #
maryjane
 
woodguru wrote:
such a waste...do you not understand when someone says "Trump doing what he's doing would be like us doing this"? She's saying don't do this, put a stop to it, this is an abuse of power that we do not need to set as a precedent.


Why is it an abuse of power wgen Trump does something that has been done many times in the past by presidents and for less valid reasons? A national emergency declaration for the purpose of disarming Americans would be an action weakening the country. Trump is trying to protect our nation, make it safer, and protect its future for Americans. Nothing is more important or more critical.

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