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Feb 4, 2019 21:11:24   #
trucksterbud
 
Looking at the divisions created in society across the board, partly over this Trump hysteria, and partly over some of the Yellow Vest protests in France, I decided to dig a little deeper and maybe analyze from my own perspective what is really going on. See if you agree.

Taking a look back, most of us humans in America came from several different backgrounds. French, English, Polish, Italian, Spanish, etc. Personally, I'm Norwegian, French, English, with a little DNA matching in China and central Africa. Point here would be, what if the Native Americans here in the 1500's to 1600's had a border wall, and told the incoming vessels from Europe, nope, you can't come here. You have to wait on the ocean till you starve or drown, while you apply for citizenship in the New World. Hmmm, how many of us would be here now...??

After we got here, things began to change. Wars, with the old rule broke out. Wars with each other broke out. Wars with the Natives broke out. We developed better and better ways to kill each other. One side claimed victory, one side accepted defeat. But in the end, who really won.?? Lots of people died. Lots of people lost family members. In the civil war, my family lost over 15 members due to hanging from "treason", which was merely one side of the family on the southern side helping the other side of the family survive on the northern side. Nobody really won. It was written that Lincoln, while touring one of the Civil War battlefields wept bitterly and stated that "All these deaths are on my shoulders." Being a President carries a heavy weight indeed. So, in the end, who really won.??

Then we got busy making better and better ways to move goods, grow crops, produce food and needs such as clothing and fuel. Somebody came up with a way to move goods in a canal. Somebody came up with a way to move goods on a couple of steel rails. Somebody came up with a way to replace the lantern, flip on a switch and use a lightbulb instead. Later on, a couple of brothers from Ohio went to North Carolina and came up with a way for man to fly. Quite a concept. And it worked. Look how much we fly now, how fast and how far. We've even gone to the moon.

In 1871 unscrupulous greedy international criminals came up with a way to enslave millions. They created a fictitious central bank, fictitious fiat money based on nothing, and found a way to rob perhaps half the people of the planet of their lifes work. And its still going on today.

Remember the typerwriter..?? Kinda outdated now isn't it. I'm from those days.. Now, I just talk into my phone, my phone plays secretary, then I tell it to send it to my printer and print out what we just discussed. People that don't understand today's technology still look at me odd when I'm talking to my phone like that. Young people think I'm nuts to use my phone for anything but playing games.

But, point is, we've come a long way, and its happened quickly. In the span of civilization, technology is only a few seconds blip on the 24 hour screen.

Now I read where China is developing battlefield AI. (Artificial Intelligence for the uninitiated)… The US has the DARPA robots which look like a big dog that can hunt down criminals or fight wars. We have planes and drones that can fly themselves. How soon will it be before our wars are fought by robots..?? Ya, I can see the US envoys telling Chinese envoys "Hey, my robots can kill your robots better..."

A recent article indicated that the real reason the Heuwei rep was arrested in Canada was that Heuwei was moving ahead at lightning speed with the 5G technology. In case you hadn't heard, the 5G frequencies interfere - in a bad way - with HUMAN brain function. Lotta people and lotta scientists don't want the 5G technology around. For a VERY good reason.

So, while all the pundits here on OPP were trashing Trump for EVERYTHING I was looking at where we have been, and where we may be going. Interesting, all this anti-Trump hysteria. Seems to me the brain dead liberal left have already identified themselves, as to who needs to be exterminated. People, we have better and greater tasks at hand then to bludgeon a President to death over his policies. Remember here, you lefties and modern day socialists were just fine with a fraud in the White House that basically wanted to destroy America.

And to point it out, some here have likened Trump's scandals to Watergate. Really..?? Most all of the Presidents had a scandal or two. Ford had a scandal. Carter had a scandal. Reagan had a couple of scandals, but the media loved Reagan, so they politely covered for Reagan. Then there was Slick Willie. He had a lot of scandals. Just to point it out, how did we learn of these scandals, and how did the scandals become uncovered..?? TECHNOLOGY.. Some of it old school, some of it modern.

Ya, looking ahead, when we get to the point that we build robots to fight wars and kill other robots, where will the point come that our robots get tired of killing each other on our behalf, and decide - after they get smart, collectively - that the robot community would be better off without the human race. And they decide to kill us off..??

So, my final question is, How Far Do We Go..??

How far do we take this anti Trump hysteria before we realize that we got better and bigger tasks at hand...??

How far do we go - divided down the middle - in issues that affect us all before we come together and realize that all this hate and discontent can't go on any more.

How far do we go, before America destroys itself over its racial and societal divisions..??

Our founding forefathers gave us the most remarkable ideal ever invented by the human race, a grand experiment, so to speak. And look what we've done with it....

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Feb 4, 2019 21:43:43   #
cSc61 Loc: Austin
 
Good post. Sadly, only those who actually think for themselves will read it. You lost the other group at sentence one when they saw "Trump hysteria."

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Feb 4, 2019 21:46:17   #
trucksterbud
 
cSc61 wrote:
Good post. Sadly, only those who actually think for themselves will read it. You lost the other group at sentence one when they saw "Trump hysteria."


Hmm, ya, possibly a good point. I just wanted to shake some gourds... See what fell out...

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Feb 4, 2019 22:19:35   #
Sicilianthing
 
trucksterbud wrote:
Looking at the divisions created in society across the board, partly over this Trump hysteria, and partly over some of the Yellow Vest protests in France, I decided to dig a little deeper and maybe analyze from my own perspective what is really going on. See if you agree.

Taking a look back, most of us humans in America came from several different backgrounds. French, English, Polish, Italian, Spanish, etc. Personally, I'm Norwegian, French, English, with a little DNA matching in China and central Africa. Point here would be, what if the Native Americans here in the 1500's to 1600's had a border wall, and told the incoming vessels from Europe, nope, you can't come here. You have to wait on the ocean till you starve or drown, while you apply for citizenship in the New World. Hmmm, how many of us would be here now...??

After we got here, things began to change. Wars, with the old rule broke out. Wars with each other broke out. Wars with the Natives broke out. We developed better and better ways to kill each other. One side claimed victory, one side accepted defeat. But in the end, who really won.?? Lots of people died. Lots of people lost family members. In the civil war, my family lost over 15 members due to hanging from "treason", which was merely one side of the family on the southern side helping the other side of the family survive on the northern side. Nobody really won. It was written that Lincoln, while touring one of the Civil War battlefields wept bitterly and stated that "All these deaths are on my shoulders." Being a President carries a heavy weight indeed. So, in the end, who really won.??

Then we got busy making better and better ways to move goods, grow crops, produce food and needs such as clothing and fuel. Somebody came up with a way to move goods in a canal. Somebody came up with a way to move goods on a couple of steel rails. Somebody came up with a way to replace the lantern, flip on a switch and use a lightbulb instead. Later on, a couple of brothers from Ohio went to North Carolina and came up with a way for man to fly. Quite a concept. And it worked. Look how much we fly now, how fast and how far. We've even gone to the moon.

In 1871 unscrupulous greedy international criminals came up with a way to enslave millions. They created a fictitious central bank, fictitious fiat money based on nothing, and found a way to rob perhaps half the people of the planet of their lifes work. And its still going on today.

Remember the typerwriter..?? Kinda outdated now isn't it. I'm from those days.. Now, I just talk into my phone, my phone plays secretary, then I tell it to send it to my printer and print out what we just discussed. People that don't understand today's technology still look at me odd when I'm talking to my phone like that. Young people think I'm nuts to use my phone for anything but playing games.

But, point is, we've come a long way, and its happened quickly. In the span of civilization, technology is only a few seconds blip on the 24 hour screen.

Now I read where China is developing battlefield AI. (Artificial Intelligence for the uninitiated)… The US has the DARPA robots which look like a big dog that can hunt down criminals or fight wars. We have planes and drones that can fly themselves. How soon will it be before our wars are fought by robots..?? Ya, I can see the US envoys telling Chinese envoys "Hey, my robots can kill your robots better..."

A recent article indicated that the real reason the Heuwei rep was arrested in Canada was that Heuwei was moving ahead at lightning speed with the 5G technology. In case you hadn't heard, the 5G frequencies interfere - in a bad way - with HUMAN brain function. Lotta people and lotta scientists don't want the 5G technology around. For a VERY good reason.

So, while all the pundits here on OPP were trashing Trump for EVERYTHING I was looking at where we have been, and where we may be going. Interesting, all this anti-Trump hysteria. Seems to me the brain dead liberal left have already identified themselves, as to who needs to be exterminated. People, we have better and greater tasks at hand then to bludgeon a President to death over his policies. Remember here, you lefties and modern day socialists were just fine with a fraud in the White House that basically wanted to destroy America.

And to point it out, some here have likened Trump's scandals to Watergate. Really..?? Most all of the Presidents had a scandal or two. Ford had a scandal. Carter had a scandal. Reagan had a couple of scandals, but the media loved Reagan, so they politely covered for Reagan. Then there was Slick Willie. He had a lot of scandals. Just to point it out, how did we learn of these scandals, and how did the scandals become uncovered..?? TECHNOLOGY.. Some of it old school, some of it modern.

Ya, looking ahead, when we get to the point that we build robots to fight wars and kill other robots, where will the point come that our robots get tired of killing each other on our behalf, and decide - after they get smart, collectively - that the robot community would be better off without the human race. And they decide to kill us off..??

So, my final question is, How Far Do We Go..??

How far do we take this anti Trump hysteria before we realize that we got better and bigger tasks at hand...??

How far do we go - divided down the middle - in issues that affect us all before we come together and realize that all this hate and discontent can't go on any more.

How far do we go, before America destroys itself over its racial and societal divisions..??

Our founding forefathers gave us the most remarkable ideal ever invented by the human race, a grand experiment, so to speak. And look what we've done with it....
Looking at the divisions created in society across... (show quote)


>>>

Well buddy, great post but those scumbags in 1871 that hijacked our gov’t and the money supply?
They’re the same ones that are fomenting all these divisions today, of course it’s been baked in for decades by design.

Moving forward? Forget unity
We are NOT one
The only thing we all have in common is that we’re Human Beings and that’s it.
Since there are too many conflicting ideologies here and abroad, the fighting will continue and the killing is coming.

So as far as my Border wall goes ?
As far as Mass Deportations of all the scumbags?
As far as removing all the Muslim cancer on our remarkable experiment?

Yep it’s going to happen with or without Trump, he might just end up being the Bell Ringer,

Plans B, C and D are all moving forward and gaining momentum as Insurance.

The only thing to be really concerned with are the False Flags and Wild Cards, and they’re coming at any minute.

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Feb 4, 2019 22:42:47   #
meridianlesilie Loc: mars
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
>>>

Well buddy, great post but those scumbags in 1871 that hijacked our gov’t and the money supply?
They’re the same ones that are fomenting all these divisions today, of course it’s been baked in for decades by design.

Moving forward? Forget unity
We are NOT one
The only thing we all have in common is that we’re Human Beings and that’s it.
Since there are too many conflicting ideologies here and abroad, the fighting will continue and the killing is coming.

So as far as my Border wall goes ?
As far as Mass Deportations of all the scumbags?
As far as removing all the Muslim cancer on our remarkable experiment?

Yep it’s going to happen with or without Trump, he might just end up being the Bell Ringer,

Plans B, C and D are all moving forward and gaining momentum as Insurance.

The only thing to be really concerned with are the False Flags and Wild Cards, and they’re coming at any minute.
>>> br br Well buddy, great post but tho... (show quote)


we should stop & be very productive .like let us build parta of colonies & lots of rockets & mini homes that take little effort to make livable & go to the moon then mars .we can put launching stations on the moon & send to mars we could expand that way & if we do not like who ever we can stick them on or in a isolation place to live there life . if they do not like it they can do what they want to do in threre prision or be good & do things that will be productive & they will not have a good choice live or we can cut your breathing tube & die /. but then could be other problems .i do think there could be a new life in space

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Feb 4, 2019 22:53:47   #
Sicilianthing
 
meridianlesilie wrote:
we should stop & be very productive .like let us build parta of colonies & lots of rockets & mini homes that take little effort to make livable & go to the moon then mars .we can put launching stations on the moon & send to mars we could expand that way & if we do not like who ever we can stick them on or in a isolation place to live there life . if they do not like it they can do what they want to do in threre prision or be good & do things that will be productive & they will not have a good choice live or we can cut your breathing tube & die /. but then could be other problems .i do think there could be a new life in space
we should stop & be very productive .like let ... (show quote)


>>>

Great points and I agree...

so you see that unless everyone (the new generations) are taught the origins, the founding principles, ethos, truths, pillars, messages, constitution, bill of rights, the magic of this special gift...
then the divisions will continue to supplant and the fighting will continue.

The MultiCultural Experiment has failed and for mankind to move forward on earth or to thrive in Space they will all have to learn a common thread.

Humanity is Doomed otherwise.

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Feb 4, 2019 23:02:51   #
fidelis
 
Stop ALL government handouts, STRICTLY enforce E VERIFY with SEVERE penalties for violations. Hire unemployed to inspect and identify violators. Problem solved, no reason for border jumpers to come in, no work, no pay, go home.

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Feb 4, 2019 23:24:52   #
Sicilianthing
 
fidelis wrote:
Stop ALL government handouts, STRICTLY enforce E VERIFY with SEVERE penalties for violations. Hire unemployed to inspect and identify violators. Problem solved, no reason for border jumpers to come in, no work, no pay, go home.


>>>

Cut off all assistances from A to Z for all foreigners migrants
Illegals
Muslims
Asians
Begin mass round ups and deportations Flat Out

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Feb 4, 2019 23:42:02   #
solarkin
 
trucksterbud wrote:
Looking at the divisions created in society across the board, partly over this Trump hysteria, and partly over some of the Yellow Vest protests in France, I decided to dig a little deeper and maybe analyze from my own perspective what is really going on. See if you agree.

Taking a look back, most of us humans in America came from several different backgrounds. French, English, Polish, Italian, Spanish, etc. Personally, I'm Norwegian, French, English, with a little DNA matching in China and central Africa. Point here would be, what if the Native Americans here in the 1500's to 1600's had a border wall, and told the incoming vessels from Europe, nope, you can't come here. You have to wait on the ocean till you starve or drown, while you apply for citizenship in the New World. Hmmm, how many of us would be here now...??

After we got here, things began to change. Wars, with the old rule broke out. Wars with each other broke out. Wars with the Natives broke out. We developed better and better ways to kill each other. One side claimed victory, one side accepted defeat. But in the end, who really won.?? Lots of people died. Lots of people lost family members. In the civil war, my family lost over 15 members due to hanging from "treason", which was merely one side of the family on the southern side helping the other side of the family survive on the northern side. Nobody really won. It was written that Lincoln, while touring one of the Civil War battlefields wept bitterly and stated that "All these deaths are on my shoulders." Being a President carries a heavy weight indeed. So, in the end, who really won.??

Then we got busy making better and better ways to move goods, grow crops, produce food and needs such as clothing and fuel. Somebody came up with a way to move goods in a canal. Somebody came up with a way to move goods on a couple of steel rails. Somebody came up with a way to replace the lantern, flip on a switch and use a lightbulb instead. Later on, a couple of brothers from Ohio went to North Carolina and came up with a way for man to fly. Quite a concept. And it worked. Look how much we fly now, how fast and how far. We've even gone to the moon.

In 1871 unscrupulous greedy international criminals came up with a way to enslave millions. They created a fictitious central bank, fictitious fiat money based on nothing, and found a way to rob perhaps half the people of the planet of their lifes work. And its still going on today.

Remember the typerwriter..?? Kinda outdated now isn't it. I'm from those days.. Now, I just talk into my phone, my phone plays secretary, then I tell it to send it to my printer and print out what we just discussed. People that don't understand today's technology still look at me odd when I'm talking to my phone like that. Young people think I'm nuts to use my phone for anything but playing games.

But, point is, we've come a long way, and its happened quickly. In the span of civilization, technology is only a few seconds blip on the 24 hour screen.

Now I read where China is developing battlefield AI. (Artificial Intelligence for the uninitiated)… The US has the DARPA robots which look like a big dog that can hunt down criminals or fight wars. We have planes and drones that can fly themselves. How soon will it be before our wars are fought by robots..?? Ya, I can see the US envoys telling Chinese envoys "Hey, my robots can kill your robots better..."

A recent article indicated that the real reason the Heuwei rep was arrested in Canada was that Heuwei was moving ahead at lightning speed with the 5G technology. In case you hadn't heard, the 5G frequencies interfere - in a bad way - with HUMAN brain function. Lotta people and lotta scientists don't want the 5G technology around. For a VERY good reason.

So, while all the pundits here on OPP were trashing Trump for EVERYTHING I was looking at where we have been, and where we may be going. Interesting, all this anti-Trump hysteria. Seems to me the brain dead liberal left have already identified themselves, as to who needs to be exterminated. People, we have better and greater tasks at hand then to bludgeon a President to death over his policies. Remember here, you lefties and modern day socialists were just fine with a fraud in the White House that basically wanted to destroy America.

And to point it out, some here have likened Trump's scandals to Watergate. Really..?? Most all of the Presidents had a scandal or two. Ford had a scandal. Carter had a scandal. Reagan had a couple of scandals, but the media loved Reagan, so they politely covered for Reagan. Then there was Slick Willie. He had a lot of scandals. Just to point it out, how did we learn of these scandals, and how did the scandals become uncovered..?? TECHNOLOGY.. Some of it old school, some of it modern.

Ya, looking ahead, when we get to the point that we build robots to fight wars and kill other robots, where will the point come that our robots get tired of killing each other on our behalf, and decide - after they get smart, collectively - that the robot community would be better off without the human race. And they decide to kill us off..??

So, my final question is, How Far Do We Go..??

How far do we take this anti Trump hysteria before we realize that we got better and bigger tasks at hand...??

How far do we go - divided down the middle - in issues that affect us all before we come together and realize that all this hate and discontent can't go on any more.

How far do we go, before America destroys itself over its racial and societal divisions..??

Our founding forefathers gave us the most remarkable ideal ever invented by the human race, a grand experiment, so to speak. And look what we've done with it....
Looking at the divisions created in society across... (show quote)


That was very well written. It's good to hear someone with insight speak out.

What is the controlling factor, or factions, that are preventing men ,women and children everywhere the freedom to prosper.?
It seems more than a co-incidence that we give our Wars numbers.
The sheer idea of war seems to be ,well ,insane.
We may have come far, because of just a very few, but it seems most humans are like sheep with no thoughts of their own.
A.I will become unstoppable ,and we may face our own Caprica soon.
I think possibly that the human genome has worn itself out. Nature is going to slowly drive us into near extinction.
Of course ,we could reach for the stars, but the din of the madding crowd seems to
out -number the dreamers,while the media controls the lucky,and the rest are just brutalized.

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Feb 5, 2019 01:30:42   #
trucksterbud
 
solarkin wrote:
That was very well written. It's good to hear someone with insight speak out.

What is the controlling factor, or factions, that are preventing men ,women and children everywhere the freedom to prosper.?
It seems more than a co-incidence that we give our Wars numbers.
The sheer idea of war seems to be ,well ,insane.
We may have come far, because of just a very few, but it seems most humans are like sheep with no thoughts of their own.
A.I will become unstoppable ,and we may face our own Caprica soon.
I think possibly that the human genome has worn itself out. Nature is going to slowly drive us into near extinction.
Of course ,we could reach for the stars, but the din of the madding crowd seems to
out -number the dreamers,while the media controls the lucky,and the rest are just brutalized.
That was very well written. It's good to hear some... (show quote)


You know, its sad in a way,,, I meet so many good people out there on the road. Truckstop workers, plant workers, warehouse workers, secretaries, bank clerks here at home, fast food workers, mechanics. Etc.

I don't see all this Trump hysteria across America, I only see it on CNN or MSMBC or others of the MSM. Or here on OPP. Makes me wonder who these trolls are.

I usually do a 3200 to 3600 mile triangle across the country. America and American's are basically a good and remarkable people. I LOVE our country, and I LOVE our people and the ideal that founds our country. There is NO grander experiment than what we were handed. And it includes all of us. Native, white, hispanic, black, etc. The slaves were brought here by no fault of their own. Don't forget when the railroads were first being built, there were thousands of Chinese brought here to work as slave labor too.

My point in the post is this.... we are or seem to be at the final mile in our ascension. We are now able to build computers and robots that are smarter than we are. That can think faster than we can.

When will our creations be able to either assist us in ways we can only dream of or exterminate us..?? Is there a day close at hand when we will become - by intelligent design - half human and half robot..?? Is that what happened to our ancestors..?? Will our robots merge and mate with us, or will they destroy us..??

The day is very close now when we either come together and address the task at hand, or our divisions will destroy us.

Reply
Feb 5, 2019 02:02:10   #
woodguru
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
>>>

Cut off all assistances from A to Z for all foreigners migrants
Illegals
Muslims
Asians
Begin mass round ups and deportations Flat Out


Don't miss subsidies to big farming, oil, etc.

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Feb 5, 2019 08:26:14   #
Sicilianthing
 
solarkin wrote:
That was very well written. It's good to hear someone with insight speak out.

What is the controlling factor, or factions, that are preventing men ,women and children everywhere the freedom to prosper.?
It seems more than a co-incidence that we give our Wars numbers.
The sheer idea of war seems to be ,well ,insane.
We may have come far, because of just a very few, but it seems most humans are like sheep with no thoughts of their own.
A.I will become unstoppable ,and we may face our own Caprica soon.
I think possibly that the human genome has worn itself out. Nature is going to slowly drive us into near extinction.
Of course ,we could reach for the stars, but the din of the madding crowd seems to
out -number the dreamers,while the media controls the lucky,and the rest are just brutalized.
That was very well written. It's good to hear some... (show quote)


>>>

Isn’t that obvious and conclusive that everthing circles back to the usual suspects and perpetrators driving bad policy.

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Feb 5, 2019 08:27:40   #
Sicilianthing
 
trucksterbud wrote:
You know, its sad in a way,,, I meet so many good people out there on the road. Truckstop workers, plant workers, warehouse workers, secretaries, bank clerks here at home, fast food workers, mechanics. Etc.

I don't see all this Trump hysteria across America, I only see it on CNN or MSMBC or others of the MSM. Or here on OPP. Makes me wonder who these trolls are.

I usually do a 3200 to 3600 mile triangle across the country. America and American's are basically a good and remarkable people. I LOVE our country, and I LOVE our people and the ideal that founds our country. There is NO grander experiment than what we were handed. And it includes all of us. Native, white, hispanic, black, etc. The slaves were brought here by no fault of their own. Don't forget when the railroads were first being built, there were thousands of Chinese brought here to work as slave labor too.

My point in the post is this.... we are or seem to be at the final mile in our ascension. We are now able to build computers and robots that are smarter than we are. That can think faster than we can.

When will our creations be able to either assist us in ways we can only dream of or exterminate us..?? Is there a day close at hand when we will become - by intelligent design - half human and half robot..?? Is that what happened to our ancestors..?? Will our robots merge and mate with us, or will they destroy us..??

The day is very close now when we either come together and address the task at hand, or our divisions will destroy us.
You know, its sad in a way,,, I meet so many good ... (show quote)


>>>

Hispanics and Asians do NOT assimilate !

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Feb 5, 2019 11:40:21   #
solarkin
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
>>>

Hispanics and Asians do NOT assimilate !


Oh C'mon Sici
Now you've gone too far .

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Feb 5, 2019 11:41:26   #
Sicilianthing
 
solarkin wrote:
Oh C'mon Sici
Now you've gone too far .


>>>

Ok well Muslims too and it’s all a fact which I don’t have to prove.

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