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Feb 2, 2019 13:23:18   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
jeff smith wrote:
the GREAT HOXE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY" when the abortion pushers first started . it was a way "they thought " to minimize the birth rate of all minorities . now days it is pushed as a "right of a woman to control her own life" there are many methods to control not getting pregnant, for women and men, to use. although if everyone wants to whore around women and men ,and not use all of the protections that are at their disposal an a child is created then raise her or him. once that sperm and egg meet, it is alive, growing and developing .
the GREAT HOXE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY" whe... (show quote)


"abortion pushers first started" Who were abortion pushers?????????

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Feb 2, 2019 13:25:20   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
lindajoy wrote:
Between the two you posted I did not know there were so many.... Some of the players really surprise me..Like P&G, guess they play both ends..its all just business, right???


Many probably donate to prevent threats and extortion from the Left.

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Feb 2, 2019 15:46:13   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
lindajoy wrote:
I don’t disagree with this statement if you are looking at the overall Consensus in what is being done to citizens by an above government intervention to control.. You Succinctly point out what they are doing to diminish all of us. I was specifically referring to why blacks remain at a higher poverty level when other ethnic minorities succeed? And why abortion Is more prevalent with them?

As an example I will refer to the attached...It also basically confirms what you say relative to the higher echelon in keeping us poor at least for the last 30 years....

While the poverty rate for the population as a whole is 12.3% the rate varies greatly by race. Blacks have the highest poverty rate at 21.2% and Non-Hispanic whites the lowest at 8.7%.

The Poverty rate for Blacks and Hispanics is more than double that of non-Hispanic Whites...

http://federalsafetynet.com/us-poverty-statistics.html

Sorry, I took us off track here. .. We can continue this again...
I don’t disagree with this statement if you are lo... (show quote)


Again, you statistics are questionable. After the Civil War and the Emancipation Act and Homestead Act, Blacks became property owners and quite successful. Hard, honest work paid off. Many became college educated and opened businesses in the larger cities.

Marx's socialists already established during the Civil War in the south, fought back. Zoning and property taxes arose. Currency wars began, fearing Black prosperity. The Yellow Brick Road in the Wizard of Oz is a parody of currency wars at the turn of the last century, the tightening of bank credit for farmers during the draught and a deliberately manipulated gold shortage by the banking community to fight Lincoln's greenbacks. The British switched their Pound to sterling silver.

Further efforts to destroy Black farmers was made by the Department of Agriculture under FDR, this time his National Industrial Recovery Act excluded farm labor from access to more credit. And then you have LBJ's Great Society destroying the black family unit and putting them back on the Government Plantation in tenement housing.

The Black community has been specifically targeted. Bussing ghetto school children only brought White flight from the inner cities. In contrast, the immigrants mostly come here with families intact and have resources to fall back on. The others result as gangbangers who end up jailbirds.

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Feb 2, 2019 17:15:53   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
Again, you statistics are questionable. After the Civil War and the Emancipation Act and Homestead Act, Blacks became property owners and quite successful. Hard, honest work paid off. Many became college educated and opened businesses in the larger cities.

Marx's socialists already established during the Civil War in the south, fought back. Zoning and property taxes arose. Currency wars began, fearing Black prosperity. The Yellow Brick Road in the Wizard of Oz is a parody of currency wars at the turn of the last century, the tightening of bank credit for farmers during the draught and a deliberately manipulated gold shortage by the banking community to fight Lincoln's greenbacks. The British switched their Pound to sterling silver.

Further efforts to destroy Black farmers was made by the Department of Agriculture under FDR, this time his National Industrial Recovery Act excluded farm labor from access to more credit. And then you have LBJ's Great Society destroying the black family unit and putting them back on the Government Plantation in tenement housing.

The Black community has been specifically targeted. Bussing ghetto school children only brought White flight from the inner cities. In contrast, the immigrants mostly come here with families intact and have resources to fall back on. The others result as gangbangers who end up jailbirds.
Again, you statistics are questionable. After the ... (show quote)


CR, my statistics come from the current U.S. Poverty Statistics released September 2018 by the U.S. Census Bureau... They represent various categories of the population and the percentage of people within those categories in a poverty status...

The history as you reflect is not without merit although I have a different opinion in some area’s..Snother topic~~

I am simply asking you why the blacks continue to flounder having every right everyone else does, along with every social program available??? They have also been here much longer than other minorities.. Why are more PLanned Parenthood clinics targeted inside black communities?? Is the abortion rate for them higher because itis easier ??

Is what Nixon and Rockefeller wanted really the answer??

I went in search of late term abortions and guess what?? There are nine states including DC that have no limitations on gestationally performed abortions and they also don’t have records in statistical form either.. But they don’t practice genicidal acts either.. How do we know??Isn’t that just convienant?? Which means abortions can be performed with little care to the child..??

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Feb 2, 2019 18:49:58   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Morgan wrote:
The outcry was by conservative citizens, which is not the majority, the conservative vote last checked was at about 24%, Democratic at about 36% and the now largest percentage is the independent, hooray.

The late-term passage has always been there under certain conditions. One being the viability of the baby. Very little has changed, yes some small changes as in needing only one physician but it's been mostly rewritten for clarification. But promoted to stimulate an emotional reaction to sell papers or magazines.

It has nothing to do to allow the death of an infant for politics, just as selling baby body parts on the open market, another fallacy in order to provoke more emotional responses. can't you see when you're being manipulated? You've had a child, would you do all that, go full term to want to just abort it at the time of delivery? It's nonsense. No woman would want that Lindy,not after carrying for 9 months. Men can't relate, not really.
The outcry was by conservative citizens, which is ... (show quote)


Hooray on the Independants for sure!!!

Alot of what you say here I find agreement...Late term is and has always been given by Roe for states to adopt their own laws, requirements etc. But contained in them are built in laws to safe guard the viability of that baby after certain gestational facts come into play..Not now...

New York has in effect broadened and made easier the base .. They specifically say abortion is not murder in long term abortions.. Why did they remove that and specifically take pride in it no less?? RHA takes concern for the prenatal child completely out of the criminal code...The one Dr issue does what?? At the doctor’s discretion, placing New York one step from allowing a doctor to terminate a baby not intended for abortion and not face criminal charges...

Also abortions in the second and third trimester, though rare, are most often elective and generally not medically necessary....Rare now, this bill and the other states that will jump on board will change that too..

It seems it’s not what you do but where you do it that determines whether you go to prison or stay in business... This should give pause even to the staunchest moral relativist...
Celebrating the ability to Perform more abortions when New York County is one of the largest in doing it to begin with seems just incredulous..

Given this new RHA legislation, one could surmise that the number of abortions in New York will likely increase. This is in a state where in 2015, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported 93,096 abortions, or 28.2 percent of all pregnancies....In other words, just over 1 in 4 fetuses did not survive... Horrendous!

If the laws they had before were just fine, why the need to change/broaden them????And eliminate a murder charge too?? That safety net removed just lessens the fear in doing late term abortions or criminal neglect cases where thr fetus:baby dies..

Abortion will be erased from the criminal code; among other things, this means that if the fetus is killed as a result of an assault on the mother, the attacker will not be prosecuted for the fetus’ death.

How about any medical professional, not just doctors, may now carry out an abortion procedure....Does this protect the mother?

In the event that the fetus survives an abortion attempt, the baby may be left to die without any care?? Reallyyyyyy, come on....Were they allowed to do that before??

It is not rewritten for clarification at all.. We will agree to not agree here..

Also it is not me saying they are making these new laws to usurp Roe vs Wade in fear it will be stricken, it is them who are saying it, Cuomo and What’s his name in Virginia as well as the other states that are going to jumping on board to try to do the same thing... Look what had happened since Roe, was it ever intended to grow into what it has become?? Baby Holocaust? Can we say baby Holocaust, sure we can...

I do agree most women would not terminate late term but most isn’t Sufficient and allowing it now simply unacceptable.. I would have done anything necessary to keep my son alive to include telling my Dr to save him, not me.,,,Yes you are right about that..
I also agree with you that men do not really know what a women goes through... Of course Cosby described our deliveries as “taking your upper lip and pulling it over your head” trying to explain it to men in one his comedy skits.. Look where he is now.....

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Feb 2, 2019 19:36:18   #
Nuclearian Loc: I live in a Fascist, Liberal State
 
Hug wrote:
Abortion should be legal up to 18 years of age..


Abortion should be done to these grown up people who have after birth abortions (or murder)

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Feb 2, 2019 19:44:27   #
Nuclearian Loc: I live in a Fascist, Liberal State
 
Bad Bob wrote:
"abortion pushers first started" Who were abortion pushers?????????


You ever heard of Margaret Sanger. The biggest pusher of Abortions. She was a rabid racist, calling blacks dregs of society. He said the best thing we could do to them is kill them, because they would be useless to society, and be a drain. Whats really pathetic is that Abortion murders more black people, than any other race, and yet they predominantly support the party that is out to murdering them. And even the CBC, all blacks, support abortions. Including the UNHOLY Jackson, and Simpleton.

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Feb 2, 2019 20:24:52   #
mongo Loc: TEXAS
 
Morgan wrote:
Here are some facts,

First, a refresher: Roe v. Wade says states can regulate or even prohibit abortion after the point of fetal viability — 24 to 28 weeks — so long as they make an exception for abortions that protect the mother's life or health.

New York's new law makes clear that abortion is legal in the state under three circumstances:

The abortion occurs before the end of the 24th week of the pregnancy.
The abortion is "necessary to protect the patient's life or health."
There is an absence of "fetal viability," or the ability for the fetus to survive outside the womb.

The first two circumstances are rights guaranteed by the Roe v. Wade decision, which was handed down three years after the state's previous abortion laws went on the books.

More: Abortion laws in New York: How they changed with the Reproductive Health Act

The "fetal viability" provision in New York's law is a new addition, and it's meant to cover instances when a woman learns late in her pregnancy that a fetus isn't viable.

Meanwhile, the Reproductive Health Act also takes abortion out of the state's criminal code and expands the health-care providers that can perform the procedure in the state, both of which are measures not dealt with in Roe v. Wade

A similar bill from Virginia,http://www.cbsnews.com/news/virginia-abortion-bill-proposed-by-kathy-tran-third-trimester-today-2019-01-30/

When we talk about third-trimester abortions, these are done with the consent of obviously the mother, with the consent of the physicians, more than one physician, by the way," Northam said. "And it's done in cases where there may be severe deformities, there may be a fetus that's non-viable.

Address the issues why women have abortions, an extremely high cost of living, a lack of affordable housing, and scarce availability of parental support and child care—deserve attention

address these and then you'll almost cease abortions, some abortions will have to occur.
Here are some facts, br br First, a refresher: Ro... (show quote)



So, basically you agree with murdering children, and in fact are
admitting you are a murderer yourself...Good to know.
I bet you sleep well knowing that these sleaze bags use
planned parenthood as a solution for their sexual pleasures!

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Feb 2, 2019 22:52:56   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Many probably donate to prevent threats and extortion from the Left.


Wouldn’t doubt it🙃~~

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Feb 3, 2019 06:09:15   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
lindajoy wrote:
CR, my statistics come from the current U.S. Poverty Statistics released September 2018 by the U.S. Census Bureau... They represent various categories of the population and the percentage of people within those categories in a poverty status...

The history as you reflect is not without merit although I have a different opinion in some area’s..Snother topic~~

I am simply asking you why the blacks continue to flounder having every right everyone else does, along with every social program available??? They have also been here much longer than other minorities.. Why are more PLanned Parenthood clinics targeted inside black communities?? Is the abortion rate for them higher because itis easier ??

Is what Nixon and Rockefeller wanted really the answer??

I went in search of late term abortions and guess what?? There are nine states including DC that have no limitations on gestationally performed abortions and they also don’t have records in statistical form either.. But they don’t practice genicidal acts either.. How do we know??Isn’t that just convienant?? Which means abortions can be performed with little care to the child..??
CR, my statistics come from the current U.S. Pove... (show quote)


Lj why spread wacko BS?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/02/16/dear-conservatives-abortion-clinics-dont-target-the-black-community/?utm_term=.36a540055358


https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/1/19/16906928/black-anti-abortion-movement-yoruba-richen-medical-racism

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Feb 3, 2019 06:11:36   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
mongo wrote:
So, basically you agree with murdering children, and in fact are
admitting you are a murderer yourself...Good to know.
I bet you sleep well knowing that these sleaze bags use
planned parenthood as a solution for their sexual pleasures!


Yeah, we should punish the sinful bitches.

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Feb 3, 2019 06:15:51   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Nuclearian wrote:
You ever heard of Margaret Sanger. The biggest pusher of Abortions. She was a rabid racist, calling blacks dregs of society. He said the best thing we could do to them is kill them, because they would be useless to society, and be a drain. Whats really pathetic is that Abortion murders more black people, than any other race, and yet they predominantly support the party that is out to murdering them. And even the CBC, all blacks, support abortions. Including the UNHOLY Jackson, and Simpleton.
You ever heard of Margaret Sanger. The biggest pu... (show quote)


That's total wacko bull shit. Show any of Margaret Sanger's books, letters or speeches pushing abortion.

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Feb 3, 2019 08:15:57   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Lj why spread wacko BS?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/02/16/dear-conservatives-abortion-clinics-dont-target-the-black-community/?utm_term=.36a540055358


https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/1/19/16906928/black-anti-abortion-movement-yoruba-richen-medical-racism



Bob,bob

If sterotyping black women and PP doesn’t prey on the black community then its two responses.. One, they just get more abortions because they don’t care or the lyen media strikes again~

https://oneofus.eu/2017/03/planned-parenthood-targets-black-women-with-abortion-79-of-their-clinics-are-in-minority-neighborhoods/

Or Maybe PP shouldn’t say they work within the black communities~~

Planned Parenthood works to protect and expand reproductive rights and ensure access to quality, affordable care for all. African Americans for Planned Parenthood works each day to bring that reality to fruition and hope you too will join us to advocate for that vision.

By educating and engaging African Americans in changing the discourse around sexual and reproductive health, we will be able to continue the mission to advance and protect access to health care in the community.

https://www.plannedparenthoodaction.org/communities/planned-parenthood-black-community

This one is very interesting.~~

https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU10/20171101/106562/HHRG-115-JU10-Wstate-ParkerS-20171101-SD001.pdf

This one gives you maps of PP clinics within walking distance to black and hispanic communities...

https://www.protectingblacklife.org/pp_targets/index.html

Now Bob you don’t have to admig the inside genocide of race its really that they just like getting abortions, have no morals or the lyen media is welllll lyin again~~~

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Feb 3, 2019 08:17:27   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Bad Bob wrote:
That's total wacko bull shit. Show any of Margaret Sanger's books, letters or speeches pushing abortion.


No it is not~~she was just as much an enemy of blacks and as instrumental as her clinics to abort..

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Feb 3, 2019 08:27:14   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
lindajoy wrote:
No it is not~~she was just as much an enemy of blacks and as instrumental as her clinics to abort..


Prove your BS with her books, speeches or her letters.

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