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Feb 1, 2019 23:07:29   #
PeterS
 
tbutkovich wrote:
Thank You for a providing a honest description of the “Democrat Party” and their “Left Wing Radical Base!”

For religion and Government intertwined, you have Archbishop Dolan and Gov Cuomo who are BFT (Best Friends Forever). Cardinal Dolan is an Anti-Cardinal. He is a populist Cardinal who is more interested in “celebrity” than promoting Christian And Catholic Doctrine. He should have harshly criticized Cuomo, but he came on Fox News and presented the issue like a circus clown. He too is deeply entrenched in in the NY Democrat Swamp, the Nazi Swamp along with the rest of them. As for Corporate collusion, Hillary also awarded Comey huge defense contracts while he was working for Lockheed Martin. After he became a “Hillary Made Millionaire,” she owned him. Under her direction, she had this crook appointed to head up the FBI and he served her well! That is just the “Tip of the Corruption Iceberg!” Look at the corruption in the voting in California where “hundreds of dead people voted for Democrats.” That’s part of the reason why “Nasty Nancy” continues to get elected. It’s not her popularity nor her looks, it’s because the Democrats have mastered the art of “Cheating The Vote!” For “Corporate Corruption, have a look at the “Uranium One Scandal” and the number of Democrats who profited from that deal.

Peter S, you are so engrossed in your “Hate Trump Vendetta, it has seriously clouded you vision! I think you should serious consider seeing an eye doctor to remove those cataracts! Also suggest you get a hearing aid with a 2000 decibel amplifier to improve your hearing because you are not listening very well!

I could respond to all of the line items you brought forth in your post because all of them would fit the Democrat party, their agenda and their leadership to the tee. You are a fool if you think the “Democrat Leadership” has the goodwill of the American people in their hearts and minds. Maybe, when you go to Lens Crafters and get your “bifocals” and ”amplified hearing aids”, we can have a meaningful discussion!
Thank You for a providing a honest description of ... (show quote)

So you found two traits that can vaguely apply to liberals and that's your defense? The principal characteristics of fascism are Nationalism and Militarism and you conservatives are by far the principle champions there. Your classification of all people south of the border as an ardent enemy satisfies number three. Sexism speaks for itself and your continual attempt to discredit MSM falls under the premise that if you can't control it you will break it. "Religion intertwined with government" you point to Cuomo and every conservative alive think Christianity should be taught in our schools. You protect corporate power and you do everything to destroy organized labor. There isn't a single characteristic of Fascism that doesn't apply to Conservatism so please do tell us how we liberals are the fascists!

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Feb 1, 2019 23:24:24   #
Ricktloml
 
tbutkovich wrote:
I’ve looked in a mirror and I happen to like what I see.

At least I can see!

Left Wing Radicals and the Democrats who “hate goodwill” and support the “likes of Baby Murderer Gov Mario Cuomo!”



You keep in mind all these "people" who a want the leftists agenda are polled by over sampling Democrats. We already have between 270-300 gun laws on the books. Obamacare was widely unpopular even before it was forced upon the nation, and once evidence of Obama blatantly and knowingly lying over 30 times to the American people about keeping your insurance if you like it, period!, millions of people lost their insurance, and Obama KNEW they were going to, keeping your doctor, another lie, and on average your premiums would be reduced $2,500 a year, most people saw their premiums sky-rocket, some more than tripling. As for the border 92% of Americans support stronger border security, (a lot of the biased polls asked would you support a wall along the entire 2,000 mile border,) there is already 700 miles of wall, and the goal was NEVER to build along the entire border. The EPA under Obama was corrupt beyond words and environmental disasters CAUSED by the EPA were swept under the rug. Leftist polls manipulate the questions to get the results they want. Actually leftists manipulating the narrative is a typical misinformation tactic they have used for decades, and then of course blaming Republicans for everything

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Feb 1, 2019 23:29:10   #
debeda
 
Ricktloml wrote:
You keep in mind all these "people" who a want the leftists agenda are polled by over sampling Democrats. We already have between 270-300 gun laws on the books. Obamacare was widely unpopular even before it was forced upon the nation, and once evidence of Obama blatantly and knowingly lying over 30 times to the American people about keeping your insurance if you like it, period!, millions of people lost their insurance, and Obama KNEW they were going to, keeping your doctor, another lie, and on average your premiums would be reduced $2,500 a year, most people saw their premiums sky-rocket, some more than tripling. As for the border 92% of Americans support stronger border security, (a lot of the biased polls asked would you support a wall along the entire 2,000 mile border,) there is already 700 miles of wall, and the goal was NEVER to build along the entire border. The EPA under Obama was corrupt beyond words and environmental disasters CAUSED by the EPA were swept under the rug. Leftist polls manipulate the questions to get the results they want. Actually leftists manipulating the narrative is a typical misinformation tactic they have used for decades, and then of course blaming Republicans for everything
You keep in mind all these "people" who ... (show quote)


Absolutely correct!!!!! GREAT post, Rick

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Feb 2, 2019 01:36:57   #
PeterS
 
Officer Jim wrote:
Correct. Clinton actually made the statement that she and the party were "National Socialist Democrats". Sorry but did you not know that the Nazi Party of Germany in the 30's and 40's were officially known as the "National Socialist Democratic Party"?

Liberals can either be Marxists or National Socialist Democrats but we can't be both because one is a left-wing ideology and the other a right-wing ideology. As for Hillary calling us National Socialist Democrats I would love to see a link to see where those were actually her words and not the words of someone trying to demonize her and by extension the democratic party...

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Feb 2, 2019 01:42:07   #
PeterS
 
Ricktloml wrote:
You keep in mind all these "people" who a want the leftists agenda are polled by over sampling Democrats. We already have between 270-300 gun laws on the books. Obamacare was widely unpopular even before it was forced upon the nation, and once evidence of Obama blatantly and knowingly lying over 30 times to the American people about keeping your insurance if you like it, period!, millions of people lost their insurance, and Obama KNEW they were going to, keeping your doctor, another lie, and on average your premiums would be reduced $2,500 a year, most people saw their premiums sky-rocket, some more than tripling. As for the border 92% of Americans support stronger border security, (a lot of the biased polls asked would you support a wall along the entire 2,000 mile border,) there is already 700 miles of wall, and the goal was NEVER to build along the entire border. The EPA under Obama was corrupt beyond words and environmental disasters CAUSED by the EPA were swept under the rug. Leftist polls manipulate the questions to get the results they want. Actually leftists manipulating the narrative is a typical misinformation tactic they have used for decades, and then of course blaming Republicans for everything
You keep in mind all these "people" who ... (show quote)

Sorry but that cracked me up...Obama lied over thirty times? Would you like to know the number of documented lies that Trump has told? In 649 days Trump has lied 6,420 times. How on earth can anyone who elected and supports Donald J Trump point their finger at Obama for telling 30 lies about Obamacare?

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Feb 2, 2019 05:18:02   #
tbutkovich
 
Let's have a look at the Fascist Executive Orders Issued By Obummer in his first term of office:

There have been over 200 Executive orders put forth from Obama, and he is not even through his first term yet. He is creating a martial law ‘Disney Land’ of control covering everything imaginable. Some of the executive orders he has signed recently have been exposed thanks to ‘Friends of Conservative Action Alerts.’ They have compiled a choice list of ‘Emergency Powers, Martial law executive orders’: Get your headache medication out while you still can without a prescription.

* Executive Order 10990 allows the Government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

* Executive Order 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.

* Executive Order 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels, and minerals.

* Executive Order 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

* Executive Order 11001 allows the government to take over all health education and welfare functions.

* Executive Order 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.

* Executive Order 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

* Executive Order 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate and establish new locations for populations.

* Executive Order 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways, and public storage facilities.

* Executive Order 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issues over a fifteen-year period.

* Executive Order 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.

* Executive Order 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute Industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.

* Executive Order 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit, and the flow of money in U.S. financial institutions in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when the president declares a state of emergency, Congress cannot review the action for six months.

It is more than clear that Obama is planning for the total control and takeover of America via Martial Law. Food, energy, transportation, work, banking, and health…he has it covered.

While Obama is busy pulling executive orders out of the sky to control everything inside our country, he has been issuing executive orders to force us to submit to international regulations instead of our Constitution. Sher Zieve exposed this in one of her recent articles. Damn the U.S. Constitution, damn the American people and damn U.S. sovereignty.

There you have it!

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Feb 2, 2019 05:58:07   #
tbutkovich
 
Morgan wrote:
One clue to who is pro-fascism... is who is ant- democracy? As that is... the voice of the people. The fascist continually endeavors to squash the voice of the people, hence the actions of the right. The people wanted gun reform...ignored, from the right. The people wanted to keep the ACA while making adjustments...ignored,from the right. The people don't want the wall...ignored, people want equal rights for all which includes blacks, women, gays, and transgenders, for all means just that...for all. The people want protective regulations for the environment ...and the access to the research...ignored. The people want protections from corrupt banking institutions and their practices, protections from corrupt employers without reprisal. All ignored from the right. This is NOT a party that serves the people, they only serve themselves. Get it through your block head.

Each time when surveys have been taken the people spoke out in the vast majority to wanting all these things over the last decade and each time ignored by the right. They are not about freedoms, or about our choice, it has always been about them and what benefits them. Seen again by Trump with all he has done since he's been in office, not to mention working hard to have all our judges leaning right and working towards a one-party government, the writing is in the wall and it screams the new right order, the new nationalist fascist party. Now as they work towards pinning people against the left with their propaganda, seen here with this far-right poster and his ilk eat it up and perpetuate the divide, with this thread, being their working tools. That is the accurate description of the New Nationalist Fascist Republican party. Working towards dismantling our government and country. God Help America.
One clue to who is pro-fascism... is who is ant- d... (show quote)


MORE PROOF THE DEMOCRATS WHO SUPPORT THE DEATH OF THE UNBORN ARE FASCISTS!
Opposition to abortion from within the medical community is hardly a modern phenomenon. Though advancing technology has only recently given us clear access to the astonishing development taking place within the womb, doctors have long known that human embryos and fetuses are nothing less than tiny human beings.

In 400 BC—almost 2500 years ago, Hippocrates of Cos, the famous Greek physician dubbed the "Father of Medicine," crafted (by his own hand or through a pupil) what remains the most enduring tradition in all of medical history: The Hippocratic Oath. Variants of the oath, which established basic guidelines for medical ethics, are taken by virtually all graduating medical students.1 In its original form—translated into English, we read the following:


I will not give a lethal drug to anyone if I am asked, nor will I advise such a plan; and similarly I will not give a woman a pessary to cause an abortion.2

The broader significance of the Hippocratic Oath lay in its unyielding devotion to the preservation of individual human life. Famed American anthropologist Margaret Mead said this of the ancient decree:


For the first time in our tradition there was a complete separation between killing and curing. Throughout the primitive world, the doctor and the sorcerer tended to be the same person... He who had the power to cure would necessarily also be able to kill [but] with the Greeks the distinction was made clear. [Physicians] were to be dedicated completely to life under all circumstances, regardless of rank, age or intellect—the life of a slave, the life of the Emperor, the life of a foreign man, the life of a defective child.3

On the heels of World War II, the Nuremberg Code of Ethics in Medical Research was formed to deal with prosecuting the Nazi doctors who were behind some of the most egregious medical crimes the world had ever known. As an aside, the most notorious of those death camp doctors, Josef Mengele, escaped prosecution by fleeing to South America and spending the 1950's as a clandestine abortionist.4 The Declaration of Geneva, which resulted from the post-WWII assembly, was crafted as a means of bringing the Hippocratic Oath up to date. Included in the original language of that declaration is the following:


I WILL MAINTAIN the utmost respect for human life, from the time of conception; even under threat, I will not use my medical knowledge contrary to the laws of humanity.5

Though the 1948 rendering explicitly precluded abortion, the "conception" clause was quietly removed in 1983—in a clear nod to political expedience.6 Instead of judging the merits of abortion against the established ethical principles of this historic document, the document itself was amended so as to justify abortion. Nevertheless, since human life demonstrably begins at conception, the oath itself was not materially changed. To respect human life in general is to respect human life in the womb. In 1949, the International Code of Medical Ethics was published by the World Medical Association in accordance with the Declaration of Geneva. It established that "A DOCTOR MUST ALWAYS bear in mind the obligation of preserving human life," and specified that human life was to be recognized "from the time of conception."7

Like the Declaration of Geneva, a 1983 amendment to the International Code of Medical Ethics removed the "conception" clause but still maintained a physician's obligation to preserve human life "from the beginning"8—language which survived until 2006.9 Despite modern efforts to narrow the pool of persons protected by these historic creeds, their original intent should be clear. Destroying a human being before or after birth was considered an unconscionable medical paractice, particularly in the aftermath of the Holocaust.

The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum tells us that abortion itself—along with forced sterilization—was part of the Nazi euthanasia program. In camps and ghettos alike, pregnant Jewish women "were forced to submit to abortions."10 Polish, Soviet, and Yugoslav women who were impregnated by their German captors were also forced into abortions if the established "race experts" deemed the unborn child to have too little German blood.11 At Auschwitz-Birkenau, "pregnant women, and young children were immediately sent to the gas chambers."12 Imprisoned Jewish doctor David Klebanov said he was given special treatment by his SS commandant because he "knew how to perform abortions--on women [the German officer] slept with."13

On the other end of the spectrum, women carrying babies of pure German stock could be punished for attempting to procure an abortion.14 The Lebensborn program established homes for the care of German children born out of wedlock, and Nazi soldiers were encouraged to father illegitimate children with unmarried German women.15 Not surprisingly, the general prohibition against aborting German babies had a eugenic exception. Historian Jill Stephenson writes:


The Hereditary Health Court in Hamburg, in a test case in March 1934, gave a judgement which declared — as a matter of fundamental principle — that abortion on grounds of racial health was not an offence. The 'medical indication' had been made a ground for legal abortion in 1927; now the ‘eugenic indication’ permitted the termination of a pregnancy if the health of the nation might be endangered by the birth of an ‘hereditarily unhealthy’ child… The announcement in 1938 that Jews would not be prosecuted if they resorted to abortion since this could only benefit the German people followed the same logic.16

Since abortion was clearly a tool in the Nazi's eugenic arsenal, it's no wonder that both the Declaration of Geneva and the International Code of Medical Ethics chose the language that they did—even in the absence of the technology that has now given us a window into the womb. Unfortunately, these unprecedented technological advances have been accompanied by the same moral laxity that plagued Nazi Germany. Once again, as in the days of Hippocrates, there is an entire subset of medical professionals who have blurred the line between killing and curing. Most of the specific moral pronouncements that were so crucial to the original Hippocratic Oath have been replaced by vague generalities. The most common revision was written in 1964 by Louis Lasagna, and fails to list any of the original prohibitions against euthanasia, abortion, and sexual relations with patients. Nonetheless, the following language is included:


Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death... Above all, I must not play at God... I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm.17

Even without referencing abortion directly, the doctors who take this oath—if they're honest—are still committing themselves to the preservation of human life, which traces all the way back to conception. The fact that countless abortionists have blithely bound themselves to this oath doesn't negate its original intent. We can change the language of historic moral documents—to accommodate an ethically-suspect practice, but we can’t change the morality itself. Simply put, killing an innocent human being is not a morally-acceptable cure to unwanted pregnancy.

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Feb 2, 2019 10:41:00   #
Ricktloml
 
PeterS wrote:
Sorry but that cracked me up...Obama lied over thirty times? Would you like to know the number of documented lies that Trump has told? In 649 days Trump has lied 6,420 times. How on earth can anyone who elected and supports Donald J Trump point their finger at Obama for telling 30 lies about Obamacare?


I will clarify. Obama lied over 30 times on just the issue of keeping your insurance.

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Feb 2, 2019 13:36:13   #
cSc61 Loc: Austin
 
PeterS wrote:
Sorry but that cracked me up...Obama lied over thirty times? Would you like to know the number of documented lies that Trump has told? In 649 days Trump has lied 6,420 times. How on earth can anyone who elected and supports Donald J Trump point their finger at Obama for telling 30 lies about Obamacare?


Sorry, but this post just deserves a "What an Idiot!" kind of response. 6,420 times in 649 days as president? Ten lies a day for every day in office? And you thought that sounded reasonable enough to quote without providing the source?

What an Idiot!

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Feb 2, 2019 14:29:46   #
Officer Jim Loc: Florida
 
JoyV wrote:
Yup! Later they took out the word Democratic and replaced it with German Workers to get the working class on board who thought democratic applied more to the well off upper middle class. They were then the National Socialist German Workers Party. Or more often simply the National Socialists.


Thanks Joyv. I did not know how to link it here but yes she mad that statement. Addtionally, the Republican Party passed Brown V Board of Education and many may laws that dealt with equality and discrimination as well as integrating the military.

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Feb 2, 2019 16:07:57   #
JoyV
 
PeterS wrote:
So you found two traits that can vaguely apply to liberals and that's your defense? The principal characteristics of fascism are Nationalism and Militarism and you conservatives are by far the principle champions there. Your classification of all people south of the border as an ardent enemy satisfies number three. Sexism speaks for itself and your continual attempt to discredit MSM falls under the premise that if you can't control it you will break it. "Religion intertwined with government" you point to Cuomo and every conservative alive think Christianity should be taught in our schools. You protect corporate power and you do everything to destroy organized labor. There isn't a single characteristic of Fascism that doesn't apply to Conservatism so please do tell us how we liberals are the fascists!
So you found two traits that can vaguely apply to ... (show quote)


Nationalism is a principal characteristic of Patriotism, no matter the ideology. It is in no way restricted to fascism, or even more prevalent in fascist states. As for militarism, it is at least as characteristic of communism as of fascism. Look at the USSR and Communist China. Should we say that because the majority of people in communist China had black hair, therefore black hair is a characteristic of people who are communist?

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Feb 2, 2019 16:21:40   #
JoyV
 
Ricktloml wrote:
You keep in mind all these "people" who a want the leftists agenda are polled by over sampling Democrats. We already have between 270-300 gun laws on the books. Obamacare was widely unpopular even before it was forced upon the nation, and once evidence of Obama blatantly and knowingly lying over 30 times to the American people about keeping your insurance if you like it, period!, millions of people lost their insurance, and Obama KNEW they were going to, keeping your doctor, another lie, and on average your premiums would be reduced $2,500 a year, most people saw their premiums sky-rocket, some more than tripling. As for the border 92% of Americans support stronger border security, (a lot of the biased polls asked would you support a wall along the entire 2,000 mile border,) there is already 700 miles of wall, and the goal was NEVER to build along the entire border. The EPA under Obama was corrupt beyond words and environmental disasters CAUSED by the EPA were swept under the rug. Leftist polls manipulate the questions to get the results they want. Actually leftists manipulating the narrative is a typical misinformation tactic they have used for decades, and then of course blaming Republicans for everything
You keep in mind all these "people" who ... (show quote)


Yup. I had never been contacted for a poll until the year I had participated in as a volunteer in an elementary school project sponsored by a Democratic Party organization. For about a year I was contacted at least three times for telephone polls. But both before and after, I had never been contacted once in all the years I was a 4H leader, school volunteer, animal shelter volunteer, etc. Up until the Trump election, I was not registered as a Republican, but as a Libertarian.

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Feb 2, 2019 16:56:16   #
JoyV
 
PeterS wrote:
Liberals can either be Marxists or National Socialist Democrats but we can't be both because one is a left-wing ideology and the other a right-wing ideology. As for Hillary calling us National Socialist Democrats I would love to see a link to see where those were actually her words and not the words of someone trying to demonize her and by extension the democratic party...


Right wing??? Which do you consider right wing?
Democratic Socialists. https://www.dsausa.org/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxism
https://canadafreepress.com/article/national-socialism-nazism-is-not-nationalism-bit-is-socialism-b
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-a-national-socialist-and-a-democratic-socialist
1. Whether they nominally let business keep control and run itself with the state telling it what are good big picture things to do. Nazism and Fascism took this approach. You can keep your private business but you better do as you are told or else. There is always the threat of nationalisation if they wont do as they are told.
2. The means of production are nationalised and given to the state directly to run. All of the other failed communist/socialist states.

As for Hillary, perhaps it was when she gave a speech in front of the Democratic Socialists of America. I can't find the transcripts. I keep getting an "page not found" message.

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Feb 2, 2019 17:01:21   #
JoyV
 
tbutkovich wrote:
Let's have a look at the Fascist Executive Orders Issued By Obummer in his first term of office:

There have been over 200 Executive orders put forth from Obama, and he is not even through his first term yet. He is creating a martial law ‘Disney Land’ of control covering everything imaginable. Some of the executive orders he has signed recently have been exposed thanks to ‘Friends of Conservative Action Alerts.’ They have compiled a choice list of ‘Emergency Powers, Martial law executive orders’: Get your headache medication out while you still can without a prescription.

* Executive Order 10990 allows the Government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

* Executive Order 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.

* Executive Order 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels, and minerals.

* Executive Order 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

* Executive Order 11001 allows the government to take over all health education and welfare functions.

* Executive Order 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.

* Executive Order 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

* Executive Order 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate and establish new locations for populations.

* Executive Order 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways, and public storage facilities.

* Executive Order 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issues over a fifteen-year period.

* Executive Order 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.

* Executive Order 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute Industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.

* Executive Order 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit, and the flow of money in U.S. financial institutions in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when the president declares a state of emergency, Congress cannot review the action for six months.

It is more than clear that Obama is planning for the total control and takeover of America via Martial Law. Food, energy, transportation, work, banking, and health…he has it covered.

While Obama is busy pulling executive orders out of the sky to control everything inside our country, he has been issuing executive orders to force us to submit to international regulations instead of our Constitution. Sher Zieve exposed this in one of her recent articles. Damn the U.S. Constitution, damn the American people and damn U.S. sovereignty.

There you have it!
Let's have a look at the Fascist Executive Orders ... (show quote)


Thanks for this list!

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Feb 2, 2019 22:06:31   #
emarine
 
JoyV wrote:
Right wing??? Which do you consider right wing?
Democratic Socialists. https://www.dsausa.org/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxism
https://canadafreepress.com/article/national-socialism-nazism-is-not-nationalism-bit-is-socialism-b
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-a-national-socialist-and-a-democratic-socialist
1. Whether they nominally let business keep control and run itself with the state telling it what are good big picture things to do. Nazism and Fascism took this approach. You can keep your private business but you better do as you are told or else. There is always the threat of nationalisation if they wont do as they are told.
2. The means of production are nationalised and given to the state directly to run. All of the other failed communist/socialist states.

As for Hillary, perhaps it was when she gave a speech in front of the Democratic Socialists of America. I can't find the transcripts. I keep getting an "page not found" message.
Right wing??? Which do you consider right wing? ... (show quote)




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OqKbv5khms
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu1qoyKNofQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhLa6I72K_
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQbFgszFaZg

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