Liberty Tree wrote:
I personally was not affected but I know some members of the Coast Guard who were hurt by not getting paid.
Yeah, I know that crowd...I've told some of em they should try n' save their money...it's not what ya make, it's what ya keep....On the other hand I don't feel sorry for any non-essential gooberworker...most never could make it in the real world
Crayons wrote:
On the other hand I don't feel sorry for any non-essential gooberworker...most never could make it in the real world
Name any other employer in the world who has 'non-essential' employees.
Crayons wrote:
Yeah, I know that crowd...I've told some of em they should try n' save their money...it's not what ya make, it's what ya keep....On the other hand I don't feel sorry for any non-essential gooberworker...most never could make it in the real world
It is hard on the lower rank ones just starting out.
Larry the Legend wrote:
Serious question: The Federal government was partially shut down for more than a month; did anything change in your life as a result? Was there something that government does that you missed or just couldn't live without? Did you breathe a long sigh of relief when the government finally opened its doors again and welcomed you back into its loving arms?
I personally didn't miss a thing. My life carried on as always just like the government was still there, thousands of miles away, doing whatever it is that government does to make my life so much better than... Hmm. I don't know what, because my life doesn't seem to miss them when they're gone. Maybe they just weren't gone long enough. Maybe we should run a little experiment where government shuts down until we feel their absence and ask them back again.
How long do you suppose that might take?
As an aside, a quarter of the government's workforce (800,000 people) was either required to work unpaid or furloughed (PC speak for laid off). Can you imagine a private employer requiring employees to work without knowing when or if a paycheck was in the future? I'm sure there must be a word for that...
Also, did you know that the US Federal government is the largest single employer in the world? 3.2 million employees, and that does not include the military.
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nope...understatement intentional
Tried to tell the lefties...gave them every heads-up and they wouldn't believe me.
Larry the Legend wrote:
Name any other employer in the world who has 'non-essential' employees.
Or who pays their employees when they're sorta laid off.
Wouldn't as in
refused to.I told them the strategy and they dismissed it.
EL wrote:
Or who pays their employees when they're sorta laid off.
This will come back later. Never fear. This was a fact-finding expedition as much as anything.
Only good can come.
Liberty Tree wrote:
It is hard on the lower rank ones just starting out.
If Americans worked low paying jobs like I did in Dutch Harbor everyone's wages would go up along with prices, unemployment would go down, the cost of illegal criminals would go down and the market would be less distorted.
There's no bad in what I just said in a single sentence.
Let the long winded fkrs try to debunk me.
woodguru wrote:
My wife has two veterinary clinics, she gets a pretty good read on how things like gas prices and shutdowns affect people's money. This will increase the number of people that ask her to take post dated checks.
She talks to the animals to get updates on gas prices? Do the 800,000 furloughed for only 35 days government employees give more post dated checks than the 25 million criminal illegal aliens who invaded our sovereign nation? Just curious?
Larry the Legend wrote:
Serious question: The Federal government was partially shut down for more than a month; did anything change in your life as a result? Was there something that government does that you missed or just couldn't live without? Did you breathe a long sigh of relief when the government finally opened its doors again and welcomed you back into its loving arms?
I personally didn't miss a thing. My life carried on as always just like the government was still there, thousands of miles away, doing whatever it is that government does to make my life so much better than... Hmm. I don't know what, because my life doesn't seem to miss them when they're gone. Maybe they just weren't gone long enough. Maybe we should run a little experiment where government shuts down until we feel their absence and ask them back again.
How long do you suppose that might take?
As an aside, a quarter of the government's workforce (800,000 people) was either required to work unpaid or furloughed (PC speak for laid off). Can you imagine a private employer requiring employees to work without knowing when or if a paycheck was in the future? I'm sure there must be a word for that...
Also, did you know that the US Federal government is the largest single employer in the world? 3.2 million employees, and that does not include the military.
Serious question: The Federal government was part... (
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For me, part of being a patriotic citizen is to care about what happens to everyone in our country (whether I agree with their politics or not).
So even though I was not personally impacted for these reasons:
- I am not a government employee
- I do not work for a government contractor
- I did not travel during the shutdown
I was still deeply disturbed by the shutdown and the impact it had on other individuals and the economy as a whole. Not to mention the dictatorial way so many people were held hostage (unsuccessfully) to the whims of the president and, by extension, his political base. A pretty low point in our democracy, in my opinion.
PaulPisces wrote:
For me, part of being a patriotic citizen is to care about what happens to everyone in our country (whether I agree with their politics or not).
So even though I was not personally impacted for these reasons:
- I am not a government employee
- I do not work for a government contractor
- I did not travel during the shutdown
I was still deeply disturbed by the shutdown and the impact it had on other individuals and the economy as a whole. Not to mention the dictatorial way so many people were held hostage (unsuccessfully) to the whims of the president and, by extension, his political base. A pretty low point in our democracy, in my opinion.
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NO!!!!!!!!!!
YOUR PARTY IS JUST AS GUILTY!!
B
Larry the Legend wrote:
Serious question: The Federal government was partially shut down for more than a month; did anything change in your life as a result? Was there something that government does that you missed or just couldn't live without? Did you breathe a long sigh of relief when the government finally opened its doors again and welcomed you back into its loving arms?
I personally didn't miss a thing. My life carried on as always just like the government was still there, thousands of miles away, doing whatever it is that government does to make my life so much better than... Hmm. I don't know what, because my life doesn't seem to miss them when they're gone. Maybe they just weren't gone long enough. Maybe we should run a little experiment where government shuts down until we feel their absence and ask them back again.
How long do you suppose that might take?
As an aside, a quarter of the government's workforce (800,000 people) was either required to work unpaid or furloughed (PC speak for laid off). Can you imagine a private employer requiring employees to work without knowing when or if a paycheck was in the future? I'm sure there must be a word for that...
Also, did you know that the US Federal government is the largest single employer in the world? 3.2 million employees, and that does not include the military.
Serious question: The Federal government was part... (
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Spot on observations, all told. If anything, it should serve as an indicator that the government could do with some amount of downsizing, especially since there are so many new private sector jobs that need filling.
PaulPisces wrote:
I was still deeply disturbed by the shutdown and the impact it had on other individuals and the economy as a whole.
What impact on the economy? Was there a crash or something that I missed? Do you really believe that government going out of business for a few weeks is enough to bring the greatest economic engine in the history of the world to a grinding halt?
PaulPisces wrote:
Not to mention the dictatorial way so many people were held hostage (unsuccessfully) to the whims of the president and, by extension, his political base.
One: There was nothing 'dictatorial' about it. The President is the head of the executive branch. He has a sworn responsibility to secure the borders whether they be north, south, east or west. He asked Congress to support him in that endeavor and was rebuffed. This was not a 'whim', it was a responsible leader bringing attention to a problem that needed more attention than it was getting due to some rather childish people who have no business being on positions of power. Nobody was 'held hostage' or even threatened with such a fate.
PaulPisces wrote:
A pretty low point in our democracy, in my opinion.
Agreed. If we had a democracy. It's actually a representative republic, but the sentiment is a valid one. If only there were better educated and more responsible people in congress, this would never have happened.
PaulPisces wrote:
For me, part of being a patriotic citizen is to care about what happens to everyone in our country (whether I agree with their politics or not).
So even though I was not personally impacted for these reasons:
- I am not a government employee
- I do not work for a government contractor
- I did not travel during the shutdown
I was still deeply disturbed by the shutdown and the impact it had on other individuals and the economy as a whole. Not to mention the dictatorial way so many people were held hostage (unsuccessfully) to the whims of the president and, by extension, his political base. A pretty low point in our democracy, in my opinion.
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Ah, a "progressive." San Francisco, no less.
Your very own Nancy Pelosi and her faithful hound, Chuck Schumer, were as, if not more, responsible for the shutdown.
As pointed out elsewhere I will point it out one more time: in the course of things, Republicans tried to pass bills TWICE that would have paid federal employees during the shutdown. Pelosi and her Dems rejected these bills because they needed some people to suffer. They needed hostages. And then the Dems wanted to go home or take vacations rather than negotiate, because to you people those you don't personally know are nothing but meat to be moved around and manipulated for political gain.
So twist events all you wish, anyone with an IQ of 8 knows that "progressives" embrace lies as a means to an end: if you people told the truth about what you want this country to become, the American people would have absolutely no use for any of it.
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