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Mar 21, 2014 02:04:04   #
Blacksheep
 
larry wrote:
The word of God, the Bible, tells us that we are made in God's image. If you do not believe the Bible is the word of God, then what is it that gives you knowledge of God. Is it your experience in communicating with him during adversity? What or who are you communicating with? Is this a private God that none of us can interface with?


I'll tell you what. You and Armageddun should both go sit on the porcelain throne and take good shits for yourselves. All you want to do is argue. Argue with each other, see ya later.

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Mar 21, 2014 02:09:16   #
migeli
 
We don't need all the bible gibberish.Love thy neighbor and don't cast stones.If everyone minded their own business and stopped fighting about religion and what is best for everyone else , we wouldn't have all these problems.

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Mar 21, 2014 02:19:36   #
migeli
 
Believing in God is fine.Telling everyone what God wants is not.Religion should cease.Not one of the religious leaders knows what God wants.They are only telling you what they imagine God wants.Imposters, taking your money , molesting your kids, telling you you're a sinner, starting wars and terrorism.Religious nonsense gets more people killed than any other reason.

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Mar 21, 2014 08:48:50   #
Steve700
 
Think there is no God ?? ??? See these Videos:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d90NM9tgDQE 8 min.& http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d90NM9tgDQE 7 Min. Enough knowledge of fulfilled bible prophecy proves it conclusively also. All you need to do is research to KNOW, but few will because of your adversion to truth & your desire to remain in your sin! !! !!!

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Mar 21, 2014 10:40:57   #
pappadeux Loc: Phoenix AZ
 
Why are there 'atheist' ? Well I being a very earthly realist will make this short sweet and snappy. Let us pretend that this world we live in is a giant corporatation with a well publicized chief operating officer. Over a long period of time this huge corporation started to collapse, and there was very little they could do about it. So it was decided to have a board meeting, but they could not find the 'big boss' Fact is no one has ever seen him, he has never been to a board meeting, and for the most part has been an invisible vision.Or to put it bluntly 'non existent', and like most failures such as GM's Rodger Smith, and our current leader "Obozo" he must be fired and replaced. He goes by the name of "GOD" Ah but which god ? , as there are so many of them. Now all this sounds crazy. Yes, but what could be crazier than putting your faith in a non existent CEO, or in this case a non existent 'deity'.



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Mar 21, 2014 11:37:46   #
larry
 
migeli wrote:
Believing in God is fine.Telling everyone what God wants is not.Religion should cease.Not one of the religious leaders knows what God wants.They are only telling you what they imagine God wants.Imposters, taking your money , molesting your kids, telling you you're a sinner, starting wars and terrorism.Religious nonsense gets more people killed than any other reason.


All wars were and are started by atheists. Those that believe they are God in themselves. God has told us what He wants in His dictated word. You have obviously been connected too closely with the Pagan Roman system to believe as you do.

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Mar 21, 2014 11:40:35   #
larry
 
pappadeux wrote:
Why are there 'atheist' ? Well I being a very earthly realist will make this short sweet and snappy. Let us pretend that this world we live in is a giant corporatation with a well publicized chief operating officer. Over a long period of time this huge corporation started to collapse, and there was very little they could do about it. So it was decided to have a board meeting, but they could not find the 'big boss' Fact is no one has ever seen him, he has never been to a board meeting, and for the most part has been an invisible vision.Or to put it bluntly 'non existent', and like most failures such as GM's Rodger Smith, and our current leader "Obozo" he must be fired and replaced. He goes by the name of "GOD" Ah but which god ? , as there are so many of them. Now all this sounds crazy. Yes, but what could be crazier than putting your faith in a non existent CEO, or in this case a non existent 'deity'.
Why are there 'atheist' ? Well I being a very eart... (show quote)


Unfortunately you have never looked for God, you have only looked to the pretenders. If you want to find God you must seek Him. If you don't want to believe in a loving creator what do you believe in, Nothing?

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Mar 21, 2014 11:48:10   #
bobgssc
 
Blacksheep wrote:
You sure do a lot of thinking for not getting anywhere. Try a different view, like this one. People who DO believe in God are the ones who are afraid, because they don't want to be dead after they die. How many times has the phrase " put the fear of God into him" been uttered? Only Christians fear God, atheists and agnostics have no reason to.

And before you make another wrong assumption, no, I am none of the three.

When people don't believe in God it's because of all the inconsistencies and hypocrisy as well as the utter lack of any proof of anything that Christianity teaches. It's all blind belief and some of us just aren't cut out to be slavering followers. Fear is for the faithful.
You sure do a lot of thinking for not getting anyw... (show quote)


You obviously don't (as well as most others) understand "the fear of God". It is supposed to imply an awesome reverence for His all encompassing love, not the shaking in our boots some people think. However, I think you know it all and just like to stir things up.

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Mar 21, 2014 11:57:30   #
larry
 
Blacksheep wrote:
I'll tell you what. You and Armageddun should both go sit on the porcelain throne and take good shits for yourselves. All you want to do is argue. Argue with each other, see ya later.


OK, close off your mind to anything but what you have already convinced yourself of, and never get the chance to learn anything else. Since you are so immune to more insight so be it. You may be surprised by some new knowledge that can creep up on you. You might find out that you are thinking wrong. When things are not used, they decay. Use your mind to find out more than what you have.

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Mar 21, 2014 11:59:48   #
larry
 
migeli wrote:
We don't need all the bible gibberish.Love thy neighbor and don't cast stones.If everyone minded their own business and stopped fighting about religion and what is best for everyone else , we wouldn't have all these problems.


It is the word of God that offers us the right direction. There is no other source for it. The word of God is truth. everything else is BS.

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Mar 21, 2014 12:30:45   #
Duckie
 
This is not the way that I am taught. I love my Mom and all my relatives. They are in charge. I am very respectful of the rules and I obey them because I want to. Is that not the way that God is? Should we follow his rules because we are afraid not to? Or should we follow his rules because he gave us free will and we decide to follow and obey? My biological Mother was always threating me, I followed her rules because I did not have a choice in the matter and I was resentful. Now I follow the rules because I have a choice and all I feel is love. Do you not think that perhaps our Father God would rather have us follow out of love? To me, God is love and all the good things about feeling and hope; not a fearsome awesome personality that I cower from, but I invite him into my life and willingly do as I am told out of love and respect and not just because he has done something for me, but because in him I have hope and love.

bobgssc wrote:
You obviously don't (as well as most others) understand "the fear of God". It is supposed to imply an awesome reverence for His all encompassing love, not the shaking in our boots some people think. However, I think you know it all and just like to stir things up.

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Mar 21, 2014 13:00:25   #
pappadeux Loc: Phoenix AZ
 
Reality ! Show me your ' true ' God, and I will show you a better world to live in. As it hasn't been since the beginning of time. and at our current pace time is running out.

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Mar 21, 2014 13:44:36   #
Duckie
 
The universe is not empty; we can at least be sure that the things we perceive with our senses exist. We can explain the existence of these things in one of three ways: (1) All things are eternal and exist necessarily, (2) Nothing is eternal and exists necessarily, (3) Some things are eternal and exist necessarily, some things not. According to Maimonides, the first explanation is obviously wrong: we see things come into existence at one moment, perish at another. The second case is also wrong. If nothing were permanent, it is conceivable that everything might perish and nothing take its place. Maimonides objects that the idea of an empty universe is absurd. So a necessary Being is needed to ensure that the universe does not become depleted.

This Being cannot derive its existence from an external source, because if it did, its existence would no longer be necessary; it would owe its existence to something else. Therefore, the necessary Being must be independent of everything else. Maimonides thinks that it is impossible for two things each to exist independently, because they would have to share a common nature or essence: independent existence. To the degree they shared it, they would be part of a larger whole and no longer independent. Maimonides therefore concludes that only one Being derives its existence from itself, and this Being is God.

Since God is self-caused, everything that derives its existence from an external source must ultimately derive its existence from God. We may think of this in the following way. Suppose one is stopped at a train crossing watching a long series of boxcars roll by. Each boxcar is pulled along by the car in front of it. In this situation, it would be reasonable to conclude that the train cannot consist entirely of boxcars. Since each boxcar is moved by something else, one car--the engine--must be able to move itself. Without the engine, the rest of the train would come to a stop. By the same token, if every being in the universe derives its existence from an external source, one Being must be the source of its own existence. Without such a Being, the universe would contain nothing.

The above is an argument produced by Kenneth Seeskin a professor of philosophy at Northwestern University.

To me, and my teachings; it is not necessary to prove that God exists. It is a waste of time. Historically, proofs of the existence of God have not played as important a role in Jewish philosophy as they have in Christian. From a Jewish perspective, it is as if a person who requires a proof to believe in God has missed the point of the religion.

pappadeux wrote:
Reality ! Show me your ' true ' God, and I will show you a better world to live in. As it hasn't been since the beginning of time. and at our current pace time is running out.

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Mar 21, 2014 13:59:29   #
Singularity
 
In general, atheists are a mixed bunch. Often the only thing in common is not believing in a deity. Some do have histories of religious abuse. Many have never been part of any religion. I've heard it said that leading a bunch of atheists is like trying to herd cats.
Most have not much interest in religions at all. Some no doubt stop by out of curiosity. Some atheists have a strong sense of morality and they recognize the serious harm that has and is being done in the name of religion.

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Mar 21, 2014 14:38:29   #
cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob
 
Blacksheep wrote:
Actually, no. Even if there was no God, there would still be those who claim that God speaks to them, and that God says YOU should do this thing and that thing. Most of those things will, of course, revolve around providing the one who says he speaks for God with a nice home and a good income.

That's what religion really is and why I have no use for it. I don't think God does, either.
you said I don't think God does either.So you do believe in God.you just hate religion.

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