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Jan 16, 2019 17:20:05   #
Airforceone
 
Bcon wrote:
A president getting elected by only New ayork snd California makes less sense.



Why what is the difference between California Voters or Texas, or Louisiana, Mississippi or Florida we are all Americans that gobto the pollsxand vote.
Pretty damm stupid when the popular vote is 3 million more votes for one candidate and the looser wins.

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Jan 16, 2019 17:23:05   #
son of witless
 
Airforceone wrote:
Yes a president can declassify anything at anytime without going through the normal channels of declassification. Now for what purpose would Trump just talk about Classified Inteligence received from the Isreali’s with the Russian ambassador in the Oval Office.

Normally all classified documents have an expiration date on them which is 10 years or 25 years but a president before declassification usually waits to the particular event has expired. Or documents are turned over to the National Archives.

So why would Trump throw the Isrealis under a bus and expose there intel supplied to the US and put the Israeli intel agents at risk.

For what purpose
Yes a president can declassify anything at anytime... (show quote)


" Now for what purpose would Trump just talk about Classified Inteligence received from the Isreali’s with the Russian ambassador in the Oval Office. "

I don't know enough details about that to comment, and I doubt that you do either. If it was a problem, then where is the Israeli complaint. Your concern for Israel is admirable, especially coming from an Obama admirer. Obama crapped on Israel almost as much as he crapped on Amerika.

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Jan 16, 2019 17:43:47   #
Airforceone
 
son of witless wrote:
" Now for what purpose would Trump just talk about Classified Inteligence received from the Isreali’s with the Russian ambassador in the Oval Office. "

I don't know enough details about that to comment, and I doubt that you do either. If it was a problem, then where is the Israeli complaint. Your concern for Israel is admirable, especially coming from an Obama admirer. Obama crapped on Israel almost as much as he crapped on Amerika.


Do you live in a GD hole at the time the Isrealis did issue a complaint they were pissed.

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Jan 16, 2019 18:01:00   #
Justsss Loc: Wisconsin
 
Airforceone wrote:
Why what is the difference between California Voters or Texas, or Louisiana, Mississippi or Florida we are all Americans that gobto the pollsxand vote.
Pretty damm stupid when the popular vote is 3 million more votes for one candidate and the looser wins.


Do you EVER bother to read what you’re posting here ?
It’s painful to read the crap you write let alone try to figure out the words. Are you lone wolf or related to it ? Spell check helps a lot spanky.

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Jan 16, 2019 18:35:34   #
Bcon
 
Airforceone wrote:
Why what is the difference between California Voters or Texas, or Louisiana, Mississippi or Florida we are all Americans that gobto the pollsxand vote.
Pretty damm stupid when the popular vote is 3 million more votes for one candidate and the looser wins.


There are a hell of a lot more illegal voters in California, which has been proven, Andy New Youk. That is not the point. The rest of the country has as much right to have their votes count as anyone else. There is a very good reason for the electoral college, or it would have been gone already.

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Jan 16, 2019 18:40:41   #
son of witless
 
Airforceone wrote:
Do you live in a GD hole at the time the Isrealis did issue a complaint they were pissed.


Please post a link. I guess I am in a hole. I had not heard about it.

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Jan 16, 2019 18:41:11   #
moldyoldy
 
son of witless wrote:
" Now for what purpose would Trump just talk about Classified Inteligence received from the Isreali’s with the Russian ambassador in the Oval Office. "

I don't know enough details about that to comment, and I doubt that you do either. If it was a problem, then where is the Israeli complaint. Your concern for Israel is admirable, especially coming from an Obama admirer. Obama crapped on Israel almost as much as he crapped on Amerika.


There were actually two different cases of trump spilling info. The Israel case was after the oval office case.

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Jan 16, 2019 18:48:28   #
moldyoldy
 
Right After Trump Is Accused Of Spilling Secret Info, European Official Sends Blistering Message To US

A senior European intelligence official has sent a clear warning to the United States saying that his country might completely stop sharing information with America after Trump just gave away highly sensitive classified information to members of the Russian government.

He said that anything shared with the U.S. “could be a risk for our sources,” and honestly I can’t really blame him.
How could Trump have been so stupid to have told Russians important secrets?
We don’t know exactly what he gave away just yet, but the reports say that he gave the Russian foreign minister and the ambassador details about a critical source of intel that we’ve been using to fight ISIS.

https://www.liberalexaminer.com/2017/05/16/right-trump-accused-spilling-secret-info-european-official-sends-blistering-message-us/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/05/16/isis-russia-secrets-trump-white-house-meeting-jonathan-turley-column/101729966/

The second case

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/16/world/middleeast/israel-trump-classified-intelligence-russia.html

https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/president-trump-fucked-over-israel-just-like-the-cia-s-1795264820

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Jan 16, 2019 19:06:58   #
son of witless
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Right After Trump Is Accused Of Spilling Secret Info, European Official Sends Blistering Message To US

A senior European intelligence official has sent a clear warning to the United States saying that his country might completely stop sharing information with America after Trump just gave away highly sensitive classified information to members of the Russian government.

He said that anything shared with the U.S. “could be a risk for our sources,” and honestly I can’t really blame him.
How could Trump have been so stupid to have told Russians important secrets?
We don’t know exactly what he gave away just yet, but the reports say that he gave the Russian foreign minister and the ambassador details about a critical source of intel that we’ve been using to fight ISIS.

https://www.liberalexaminer.com/2017/05/16/right-trump-accused-spilling-secret-info-european-official-sends-blistering-message-us/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/05/16/isis-russia-secrets-trump-white-house-meeting-jonathan-turley-column/101729966/

The second case

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/16/world/middleeast/israel-trump-classified-intelligence-russia.html

https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/president-trump-fucked-over-israel-just-like-the-cia-s-1795264820
Right After Trump Is Accused Of Spilling Secret In... (show quote)


I read the first link and it puzzled me. " We don’t know exactly what he gave away just yet, "

If they don't know exactly what he gave away, then how do they know he gave anything away ?

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Jan 16, 2019 19:07:17   #
Morgan
 
buffalo wrote:
LOL! hahahahohohohehehe! Are you so naive as to think that 10s of MILLIONF of people are here illegally, present in the US, and none of them are illegally voting? In states where there is no voter ID, in states where most voter registration, you’re not required to certify citizenship, other than signing and saying you’re a citizen?

It happens repeatedly where you have these voter registrations signed by illegals because they shouldn’t be voting, so they’re registered to vote – and the irony is, once they’re registered to vote, voter ID ain’t gonna protect you, because they have the ID necessary to vote, once they’re registered. So you have many non-citizens voting in elections, and they vote dem in large numbers in a way to sway elections.

Bitch clinton won the popular vote because of all the illegals that voted in New York and California.

From Patriot Retort:

Now, at this point, no evidence has been presented that I can find.

But I’m inclined to believe Phillips’ claim has merit.

Here’s why.

Hillary Clinton won New York State’s 29 electoral votes despite the fact that she only won sixteen of New York’s sixty-two counties. Trump won 46.

Hillary’s total NY vote count was 4,143,874 votes.

Trump received 2,640,570 votes.

Now, let’s go into the Way-Back Machine to 2012.

Barack Obama won New York State’s 29 electoral votes. He carried 35 of the 62 counties in New York.

In other words, Obama won 19 more counties than Hillary Clinton did.

What was Obama’s vote total for New York State?

3,875,826.

In other words, Obama won 19 more counties than Hillary Clinton, but received 268,048 vote fewer than Hillary.

The boost in votes for Hillary was not a result of a marked increase in the state’s population, that much I can tell you.

New York State’s population has been stagnant for a decade.

Yet we’re supposed to believe that Hillary Rodham Clinton received more votes than Obama did four years ago despite carrying nineteen fewer counties?

It sure as hell isn’t because Hillary is wildly more popular than Barack Obama was in 2012.

Something about this stinks to high heaven.

No.

I have no trouble at all believing illegals were voting in New York. In fact, the only way Hillary Clinton could manage this impossible feat is through fraud.

New York doesn’t require ID to vote. You just give them a name, sign the book and get you ballot.

Do this in states like New York, California, Illinois, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Carolina, Oregon, and Pennsylvania, and I can easily see the number of votes by illegals totaling three million.

Do you deny the disturbing fact that many dems think that illegals should vote?

Fifty-three percent (53%) of Democrats think tax-paying illegal immigrants should have the right to vote. Twenty-one percent (21%) of Republicans and 30% of voters not affiliated with either major political party agree.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/may_2015/most_democrats_think_illegal_immigrants_should_vote

The fact that you admitted that some did proves you have no clue as to how many illegals vote.
LOL! hahahahohohohehehe! Are you so naive as to t... (show quote)


Another delusional one, ridiculous and you people keep buying into this illegal voter crap.
New York Presidential Race. Results: Hillary Clinton Wins. Hillary Clinton has won New York's 29 electoral votes. Clinton has 1,736,590 more votes than Donald J. Trump. There's a good reason why Trump LOST his home town, NY.

and...
This report found that most reported incidents of voter fraud are actually traceable to other sources, such as clerical errors or bad data matching practices. The report reviewed elections that had been meticulously studied for voter fraud, and found incident rates between 0.0003 percent and 0.0025 percent. Thus, the report found, it is more likely an American “will be struck by lightning than that he will impersonate another voter at the polls.”

So buff, do you think that amount of voter fraud is going to make any kind of impact?, Versus slandering a candidate a week before the election in order to win...yeah, and who WON? Oh yeah the Prick, Trump.

http://www.brennancenter.org/analysis/resources-voter-fraud-claims

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Jan 16, 2019 19:10:12   #
Hadenough
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Right After Trump Is Accused Of Spilling Secret Info, European Official Sends Blistering Message To US

A senior European intelligence official has sent a clear warning to the United States saying that his country might completely stop sharing information with America after Trump just gave away highly sensitive classified information to members of the Russian government.

He said that anything shared with the U.S. “could be a risk for our sources,” and honestly I can’t really blame him.
How could Trump have been so stupid to have told Russians important secrets?
We don’t know exactly what he gave away just yet, but the reports say that he gave the Russian foreign minister and the ambassador details about a critical source of intel that we’ve been using to fight ISIS.

https://www.liberalexaminer.com/2017/05/16/right-trump-accused-spilling-secret-info-european-official-sends-blistering-message-us/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/05/16/isis-russia-secrets-trump-white-house-meeting-jonathan-turley-column/101729966/

The second case

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/16/world/middleeast/israel-trump-classified-intelligence-russia.html

https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/president-trump-fucked-over-israel-just-like-the-cia-s-1795264820
Right After Trump Is Accused Of Spilling Secret In... (show quote)


Trolldy,

What are your feelings on KilLIARy using her private server? We will probably never hear the truth about that, but that’s okay with all you President Trump haters. Who knows how many government secrets, operations and operatives were jeopardized.
Couldn’t find any unbiased sources? Your four sources are all biased against President Trump, real credible.
All BS by a Trump hater. It’s a shame you libs are so against our countries success.
5D dem mode, start your mantra, hate Trump, hate Trump, orange man bad, pant pant pant, drool, wipe chin and start again.

Tick Tock Tick Tock TDS boom
MAGA

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Jan 16, 2019 19:14:59   #
Bcon
 
Hadenough wrote:
Trolldy,

What are your feelings on KilLIARy using her private server? We will probably never hear the truth about that, but that’s okay with all you President Trump haters. Who knows how many government secrets, operations and operatives were jeopardized.
Couldn’t find any unbiased sources? Your four sources are all biased against President Trump, real credible.
All BS by a Trump hater. It’s a shame you libs are so against our countries success.
5D dem mode, start your mantra, hate Trump, hate Trump, orange man bad, pant pant pant, drool, wipe chin and start again.

Tick Tock Tick Tock TDS boom
MAGA
Trolldy, br br What are your feelings on KilLIARy... (show quote)


How many moles in China were executed after her e mails were sent and more than likely picked up by China?

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Jan 16, 2019 19:19:47   #
moldyoldy
 
son of witless wrote:
I read the first link and it puzzled me. " We don’t know exactly what he gave away just yet, "

If they don't know exactly what he gave away, then how do they know he gave anything away ?


It was early and the info is classified.

President Trump revealed "highly classified information" to two top Russian officials during a controversial Oval Office meeting last week, according to a report from The Washington Post.
The Post, citing current and former U.S. officials, reported Monday evening that the information relayed by the president to Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and Ambassador Sergey Kislyak "jeopardized a critical source of intelligence" on ISIS:
"The partner had not given the United States permission to share the material with Russia, and officials said Trump's decision to do so endangers cooperation from an ally that has access to the inner workings of the Islamic State. After Trump's meeting, senior White House officials took steps to contain the damage, placing calls to the CIA and the National Security Agency.
" 'This is code-word information,' said a U.S. official familiar with the matter, using terminology that refers to one of the highest classification levels used by American spy agencies. Trump 'revealed more information to the Russian ambassador than we have shared with our own allies.' "

Trump also reportedly boasted to the Russians about the intelligence he was receiving, telling the two men, "I get great intel. I have people brief me on great intel every day":

Trump went on to discuss aspects of the threat that the United States learned only through the espionage capabilities of a key partner. He did not reveal the specific intelligence-gathering method, but he described how the Islamic State was pursuing elements of a specific plot and how much harm such an attack could cause under varying circumstances. Most alarmingly, officials said, Trump revealed the city in the Islamic State's territory where the U.S. intelligence partner detected the threat.
"The Washington Post is withholding most plot details, including the name of the city, at the urging of officials who warned that revealing them would jeopardize important intelligence capabilities."
Greg Miller, one of The Post reporters who broke the story, told NPR's Ari Shapiro on All Things Considered that by sharing the information from another country, it could damage future intelligence gathering and U.S. relations with other partners.
"This is not intelligence that the United States gathered or owned. It wasn't up to the United States to share, and so doing so really jeopardizes that relationship. It potentially damages trust that's critical in these kinds of arrangements. And I think that's one of the really big worries here," Miller told NPR. "And in this case it's important, because this is apparently an ongoing stream of intelligence into Islamic State plotting. I mean, what could be more important?"
BuzzFeed also confirmed The Post's report, with one U.S. official saying that the disclosures from the president to the Russians were "far worse than what has already been reported."
The New York Times also noted that "Trump's disclosure does not appear to have been illegal — the president has the power to declassify almost anything. But sharing the information without the express permission of the ally who provided it represented a major breach of espionage etiquette and could jeopardize a crucial intelligence-sharing relationship."
Trump's meeting with the Russians came last Wednesday, the day after he fired FBI Director James Comey, who was overseeing an investigation into Russian meddling in the U.S. elections and possible ties between the Trump campaign and Russia.
The visit was fraught with bad optics, and Kislyak's attendance — only confirmed by photos from Russian state media — was especially notable because he has been at the center of many of the Trump administration's controversies involving Russia. Only a Russian Foreign Ministry photographer was allowed in to document the meeting; no U.S. media were allowed.
Trump's first national security adviser, Michael Flynn, was forced to resign after just over three weeks on the job after it was revealed he had discussed Russian sanctions with Kislyak and then subsequently misled Vice President Pence about those conversations. Attorney General Jeff Sessions was forced to recuse himself from any involvement in the FBI's investigations into Russia after it was revealed that he twice met with Kislyak, despite testifying during his confirmation hearing that he had had no contact with Russian officials.
Monday's reports of Trump revealing classified information to the Russians come just ahead of his first foreign trip as president. He's set to depart on Friday, traveling to Saudi Arabia, Israel and the Vatican, then attending a NATO meeting in Brussels, Belgium, and a G7 meeting in Italy.
National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster told reporters outside the White House that the "story that came out tonight, as reported, is false."
"At no time were intelligence sources or methods discussed, and the president did not disclose any military operations that were not already publicly known," McMaster said. However, The Post story and other subsequent reports didn't say that it was sources, methods or military operations discussed, but simply classified information.
"I was in the room, and it didn't happen," McMaster said at the end of his abrupt statement. He departed without taking questions.
"During President Trump's meeting with Foreign Minister Lavrov, a broad range of subjects were discussed among which were common efforts and threats regarding counter-terrorism," Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said in a statement. "During that exchange the nature of specific threats were discussed, but they did not discuss sources, methods or military operations."
Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Bob Corker, R-Tenn., said in a statement that, "I want to learn more about what occurred and what was shared, but if true, this report is troubling." Corker told Bloomberg News that the White House was "in a downward spiral right now and they've got to figure out a way to come to grips with all that's happening."
Senate Intelligence Committee Vice Chairman Mark Warner, D-Va., said that if The Washington Post's report was true, it was "inexcusable."
https://www.npr.org/2017/05/15/528511980/report-trump-gave-classified-information-to-russians-during-white-house-visit

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Jan 16, 2019 19:20:15   #
Hadenough
 
Bcon wrote:
How many moles in China were executed after her e mails were sent and more than likely picked up by China?


Bcon,

That’s okay for the dems/libs/progs, it was queen KilLIARy. After all she wiped it with a cloth.
Honestly I think people like trolldy hit their stupidity restart button on their phones/computers every morning and then start posting!

MAGA

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Jan 16, 2019 19:33:57   #
son of witless
 
moldyoldy wrote:
It was early and the info is classified.

President Trump revealed "highly classified information" to two top Russian officials during a controversial Oval Office meeting last week, according to a report from The Washington Post.
The Post, citing current and former U.S. officials, reported Monday evening that the information relayed by the president to Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and Ambassador Sergey Kislyak "jeopardized a critical source of intelligence" on ISIS:
"The partner had not given the United States permission to share the material with Russia, and officials said Trump's decision to do so endangers cooperation from an ally that has access to the inner workings of the Islamic State. After Trump's meeting, senior White House officials took steps to contain the damage, placing calls to the CIA and the National Security Agency.
" 'This is code-word information,' said a U.S. official familiar with the matter, using terminology that refers to one of the highest classification levels used by American spy agencies. Trump 'revealed more information to the Russian ambassador than we have shared with our own allies.' "

Trump also reportedly boasted to the Russians about the intelligence he was receiving, telling the two men, "I get great intel. I have people brief me on great intel every day":

Trump went on to discuss aspects of the threat that the United States learned only through the espionage capabilities of a key partner. He did not reveal the specific intelligence-gathering method, but he described how the Islamic State was pursuing elements of a specific plot and how much harm such an attack could cause under varying circumstances. Most alarmingly, officials said, Trump revealed the city in the Islamic State's territory where the U.S. intelligence partner detected the threat.
"The Washington Post is withholding most plot details, including the name of the city, at the urging of officials who warned that revealing them would jeopardize important intelligence capabilities."
Greg Miller, one of The Post reporters who broke the story, told NPR's Ari Shapiro on All Things Considered that by sharing the information from another country, it could damage future intelligence gathering and U.S. relations with other partners.
"This is not intelligence that the United States gathered or owned. It wasn't up to the United States to share, and so doing so really jeopardizes that relationship. It potentially damages trust that's critical in these kinds of arrangements. And I think that's one of the really big worries here," Miller told NPR. "And in this case it's important, because this is apparently an ongoing stream of intelligence into Islamic State plotting. I mean, what could be more important?"
BuzzFeed also confirmed The Post's report, with one U.S. official saying that the disclosures from the president to the Russians were "far worse than what has already been reported."
The New York Times also noted that "Trump's disclosure does not appear to have been illegal — the president has the power to declassify almost anything. But sharing the information without the express permission of the ally who provided it represented a major breach of espionage etiquette and could jeopardize a crucial intelligence-sharing relationship."
Trump's meeting with the Russians came last Wednesday, the day after he fired FBI Director James Comey, who was overseeing an investigation into Russian meddling in the U.S. elections and possible ties between the Trump campaign and Russia.
The visit was fraught with bad optics, and Kislyak's attendance — only confirmed by photos from Russian state media — was especially notable because he has been at the center of many of the Trump administration's controversies involving Russia. Only a Russian Foreign Ministry photographer was allowed in to document the meeting; no U.S. media were allowed.
Trump's first national security adviser, Michael Flynn, was forced to resign after just over three weeks on the job after it was revealed he had discussed Russian sanctions with Kislyak and then subsequently misled Vice President Pence about those conversations. Attorney General Jeff Sessions was forced to recuse himself from any involvement in the FBI's investigations into Russia after it was revealed that he twice met with Kislyak, despite testifying during his confirmation hearing that he had had no contact with Russian officials.
Monday's reports of Trump revealing classified information to the Russians come just ahead of his first foreign trip as president. He's set to depart on Friday, traveling to Saudi Arabia, Israel and the Vatican, then attending a NATO meeting in Brussels, Belgium, and a G7 meeting in Italy.
National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster told reporters outside the White House that the "story that came out tonight, as reported, is false."
"At no time were intelligence sources or methods discussed, and the president did not disclose any military operations that were not already publicly known," McMaster said. However, The Post story and other subsequent reports didn't say that it was sources, methods or military operations discussed, but simply classified information.
"I was in the room, and it didn't happen," McMaster said at the end of his abrupt statement. He departed without taking questions.
"During President Trump's meeting with Foreign Minister Lavrov, a broad range of subjects were discussed among which were common efforts and threats regarding counter-terrorism," Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said in a statement. "During that exchange the nature of specific threats were discussed, but they did not discuss sources, methods or military operations."
Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Bob Corker, R-Tenn., said in a statement that, "I want to learn more about what occurred and what was shared, but if true, this report is troubling." Corker told Bloomberg News that the White House was "in a downward spiral right now and they've got to figure out a way to come to grips with all that's happening."
Senate Intelligence Committee Vice Chairman Mark Warner, D-Va., said that if The Washington Post's report was true, it was "inexcusable."
https://www.npr.org/2017/05/15/528511980/report-trump-gave-classified-information-to-russians-during-white-house-visit
It was early and the info is classified. br br Pr... (show quote)


That is all very very nice, but I believe I asked for a link saying that the Israelis were displeased with Trump's disclosures.

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