What the Hell happened to the Democratic Party of the 1980's or even 90's ????????? Now Dems' Darling Beto O'Rourke is questioning if our Constitution is still relevant!!!!!!!!..What...

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

Now Dems' Darling Beto O'Rourke is questioning if our Constitution is still relevant!!!!!!!!..What the hell happened to Democratic Party og 1980's,1990's????....How come you Democrats let your party go soooooo far to the Left????...This is an honest question...Why do you guys except psychos in your Party???

Common_Sense_Matters

proud republican wrote:

Now Dems' Darling Beto O'Rourke is questioning if our Constitution is still relevant!!!!!!!!..What the hell happened to Democratic Party og 1980's,1990's????....How come you Democrats let your party go soooooo far to the Left????...This is an honest question...Why do you guys except psychos in your Party???

I am certain they will ask the same of the Republicans.

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

Common_Sense_Matters wrote:

I am certain they will ask the same of the Republicans.

Yes,but we are not trying to change or eliminate Constitution or Electoral Colledge

Common_Sense_Matters

proud republican wrote:

Yes,but we are not trying to change or eliminate Constitution or Electoral Colledge

Correction, Trump himself suggested getting rid of the "rigged" electoral college during his campaign. Also I have seen several belligerent Republicans here on this site that were borderline implying that there should be no 2nd amendment as well.

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

Common_Sense_Matters wrote:

Correction, Trump himself suggested getting rid of the "rigged" electoral college during his campaign. Also I have seen several belligerent Republicans here on this site that were borderline implying that there should be no 2nd amendment as well.

Republicans would never be against 2nd Amend and that is a fact!!!!...And it wasnt rigged Electoral College that he was against...It was rigged election!!!

Common_Sense_Matters

proud republican wrote:

Republicans would never be against 2nd Amend and that is a fact!!!!...And it wasnt rigged Electoral College that he was against...It was rigged election!!!

You are correct, I meant the 1st amendment, the one related to free speech, several Republican members of this site have shown much contempt of that 1st amendment as it pertains to Democrats having the right to free speech when they do not agree with Republican ideologies.

As for during the campaign, Trump did in fact say that the Electoral college was "rigged" and that it should be done away with as it was so "corrupt".

Edit: Added the quotation marks to "corrupt" so as to show that I personally have no opinion on whether or not it truly is "corrupt".

debeda

proud republican wrote:

Republicans would never be against 2nd Amend and that is a fact!!!!...And it wasnt rigged Electoral College that he was against...It was rigged election!!!

AGREED

debeda

Common_Sense_Matters wrote:

You are correct, I meant the 1st amendment, the on... (show quote)

Ummmmm...The only ones that try to stifle/suppress free speech are the dems. The left-leaning press and social media constantly suppress and deplatform conservatives. Anything not in the democratic narrative is "hate speech" or "racist". The IRS during Obama's reign targeted conservative groups. And now they're paying for it, too.

Common_Sense_Matters

debeda wrote:

AGREED

Yes, I mistakenly said 2nd amendment when I meant the 1st amendment, that was my faux pas. I have seen several Republicans implying that Democrats shouldn't have any right to free speech, granted by the 1st amendment, when they didn't agree with Republican ideologies.

As for the statement regarding Trump having spoken out about what he called a "rigged" electoral college, he first spoke out against it in 2012 when he incorrectly thought it cost Mitt Romney the election in 2012, he again spoke out against the "corrupt", "rigged" electoral college while he was campaigning in the 2016 election.

"But Mr Trump has actually spoken out against the Electoral College system which has now guaranteed him a place in the Whitehouse."*

*Source: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-electoral-college-twitter-disaster-democracy-comments-us-election-2016-a7408836.html

Common_Sense_Matters

debeda wrote:

Ummmmm...The only ones that try to stifle/suppress free speech are the dems. The left-leaning press and social media constantly suppress and deplatform conservatives. Anything not in the democratic narrative is "hate speech" or "racist". The IRS during Obama's reign targeted conservative groups. And now they're paying for it, too.

There has been quite a bit of racist comments and/or hate speech, from some conservatives, while the 1st amendment does NOT restrict racist remarks and/or any type of hate speech, there are many, from both sides of the isle, as well as us that align with neither party, that think perhaps it should.

Since I am aligned with NEITHER party, I will not defend either party for trying to deny the other party of their constitutional rights. All I am doing is pointing out that NEITHER party should be making the false narrative that their opposing party is the ONLY party guilty of not respecting the Constitution.

debeda

Common_Sense_Matters wrote:

There has been quite a bit of racist comments and/... (show quote)

I would partially agree with you. I certainly agree that neither party has the right. I would disagree that republicans are as assiduous in their censorship of democrats as vice versa. I believe democrats are given free rein to spread a great deal of racism and hate speech (an example would be the current racism against whites that is applauded and propagated by the left). Another example would be the constant, vicious "jokes" by left leaning "comedians" against conservatives, while conservatives are immediately ostracized and de-platformed, a la Roseanne.

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

Common_Sense_Matters wrote:

There has been quite a bit of racist comments and/... (show quote)

I would say that Louis Farrakhan are waaay worse then any Conservative...Maxine Waters inciting violence against Trump and his Administration is waaaay worse then any Conservative....Im not saying we re perfect,but.......

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Haven’t seen one conservative on this site against the 1st Amendment or free press. Seen plenty against a biased press If Trump said that about the Electoral College he was wrong. I disagree with Trums rhetoric often.

Common_Sense_Matters wrote:

Yes, I mistakenly said 2nd amendment when I meant ... (show quote)

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

JFlorio wrote:

Haven’t seen one conservative on this site against the 1st Amendment or free press. Seen plenty against a biased press If Trump said that about the Electoral College he was wrong. I disagree with Trums rhetoric often.

I agree!!!!!

I also cringe at some of his tweets.....But i support his immigration policies!!!!!

PeterS

proud republican wrote:

Now Dems' Darling Beto O'Rourke is questioning if our Constitution is still relevant!!!!!!!!..What the hell happened to Democratic Party og 1980's,1990's????....How come you Democrats let your party go soooooo far to the Left????...This is an honest question...Why do you guys except psychos in your Party???

Snip>>>“I’m hesitant to answer it because I really feel like it deserves its due, and I don’t want to give you a — actually, just selfishly, I don’t want a sound bite of it reported, but, yeah, I think that’s the question of the moment: Does this still work?” O’Rourke replied. “Can an empire like ours with a military presence in over 170 countries around the globe, with trading relationships ... and security agreements in every continent, can it still be managed by the same principles that were set down 230-plus years ago?”

While I am sure that you don't care, above is Beto's comment and it's a relevant question--then there is the point that anything in the constitution that you people don't care about you tend to ignore and we tend to the same.

My question is why do you fly off the handle over ever soundbite fed to you by the right-wing press? I mean if ever there was a bigger puppet for the right I don't think I've seen one...

And for the record--the democratic party is the progressive party. To be progressive means that you are always asking questions and testing new boundaries. Why then are you so shocked that we aren't regressive like you with a pledge to change nothing even if it is outdated and no longer relevant?