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Was Slavery the Primary Cause of the Civil War?
Jan 6, 2019 16:14:06   #
rumitoid
 
The argument over whether slavery was the primary cause of the Civil War is one of the most controversial topics in American history. It is a subject that has been debated since the war first began in 1861.

Evidence That Slavery Was the Cause of the Civil War:

One way to determine the cause of the Civil War, is to examine the primary sources from that period to see if any explicit causes were cited.

The Civil War began after several states seceded from the Union in late 1860 and early 1861. Each state that seceded issued an Article of Secession announcing that they were leaving the Union.

In addition, four states: Texas, Mississippi, Georgia and South Carolina issued additional documents, known as the Declaration of Causes, that further explained their actions. These declarations discuss two major themes: slavery and state’s rights.

Georgia’s declaration focuses heavily on slavery and state’s rights, stating that it refused to be ruled over by an anti-slavery government:

“Our Northern confederates, after a full and calm hearing of all the facts, after a fair warning of our purpose not to submit to the rule of the authors of all these wrongs and injuries, have by a large majority committed the Government of the United States into their hands. The people of Georgia, after an equally full and fair and deliberate hearing of the case, have declared with equal firmness that they shall not rule over them. A brief history of the rise, progress, and policy of anti-slavery and the political organization into whose hands the administration of the Federal Government has been committed will fully justify the pronounced verdict of the people of Georgia. The party of Lincoln, called the Republican party, under its present name and organization, is of recent origin. It is admitted to be an anti-slavery party. While it attracts to itself by its creed the scattered advocates of exploded political heresies, of condemned theories in political economy, the advocates of commercial restrictions, of protection, of special privileges, of waste and corruption in the administration of Government, anti-slavery is its mission and its purpose. By anti-slavery it is made a power in the state. The question of slavery was the great difficulty in the way of the formation of the Constitution.”

Mississippi’s declaration is somewhat more straightforward on the subject when it states: “Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery.” The declaration then goes on to say that the state seceded because if it didn’t it would lose its slaves:
“Utter subjugation awaits us in the Union, if we should consent longer to remain in it. It is not a matter of choice, but of necessity. We must either submit to degradation, and to the loss of property worth four billions of money, or we must secede from the Union framed by our fathers, to secure this as well as every other species of property. For far less cause than this, our fathers separated from the Crown of England.”

South Carolina’s declaration also mentioned state’s rights and suggested the federal government’s actions towards slavery were a violation of the Constitution:

“The people of the State of South Carolina, in Convention assembled, on the 26th day of April, A.D., 1852, declared that the frequent violations of the Constitution of the United States, by the Federal Government, and its encroachments upon the reserved rights of the States, fully justified this State in then withdrawing from the Federal Union; but in deference to the opinions and wishes of the other slaveholding States, she forbore at that time to exercise this right.”

Texas’s declaration also mentions slavery and states rights but also discusses other grievances with the federal government, accusing it of failing to protect the state from Native American attacks and failing to do enough about Mexican immigration.

Another primary source pertaining to this topic is Abraham Lincoln’s famous Gettysburg Address. According to the book Lincoln at Gettysburg: The Words that Remade America by Garry Wills, in the speech, Lincoln argues that the Civil War is a battle for equal rights for African-Americans, particularly in his opening line:

“Fourscore and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal. Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation or any nation so conceived and so dedicated can long endure.”

Furthermore, Wills says that this speech eventually paved the way for the 14th amendment, which granted citizenship to former slaves.

Many primary sources of the time back up Wills claims. A number of newspapers picked up on the message of Lincoln’s speech and criticized the president for his bold assertion, such as The Chicago Times, which wrote:

“How dare he, then, standing on their [the soldiers] graves, misstate the cause for which they died, and libel the statesmen who founded the government? They were men possessing too much self-respect to declare that Negroes were their equals, or were entitled to equal privileges.”

However, we don’t know if Lincoln actually felt this way or if he was just hoping to gain support for the Union cause by equating the war with a noble struggle for human rights.

Another famous Civil War-era speech that states slavery was the cause of the Civil War was the “Cornerstone Speech” by Alexander Stephens, the Confederate Vice President. Stephens spoke in Savannah, Georgia in March of 1861, just weeks before the war officially started, during which he compared the Civil War to the Revolutionary War, in which a band of rebels overthrew a tyrannical government, and said that slavery was the cause of this new revolution:

“The new constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution African slavery as it exists amongst us the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution.”

Another useful primary source on the topic is the memoir of the Confederate President, Jefferson Davis, titled The Rise and Fall of the Confederate Government. In the preface of his memoir, Davis wrote that slavery, which he referred to as “African servitude,” was one of the main reasons for the Civil War:

“African servitude at that time was not confined to a section, but was numerically greater in the South than in the North, with a tendency to its continuance in the former and cessation in the latter. It therefore thus early presents itself as a disturbing element, and the provisions of the Constitution, which were known to be necessary for its adoption, bound all the states to recognize and protect that species of property. When at a subsequent period there arose in the Northern states an anti-slavery agitation, it was a harmless and scarcely noticed movement until political demagogues seized upon it as a means to acquire power. Had it been left to pseudo-philanthropists and fanatics, most zealous where least informed, it never could have shaken the foundations of the Union and have incited one section to carry fire and sword to the other.”

Why Was Slavery a Cause of the Civil War?

A common belief is that it was the dispute about the morality of slavery that caused the southern states to secede but in reality, it was the economic and political issues of slavery that really played a part in the outbreak of the war.

Slavery was important to the south because the southern economy, which was an agricultural-based economy whose biggest exports were cotton and tobacco, depended on slaves for labor. Southerners argued that ending slavery would devastate the southern economy.

The southern states wanted to assert their state’s rights over the federal government so they could abolish or ignore federal laws about slavery that they didn’t support.

In addition, the south wanted slave states to expand into the west while the north wanted to make western states free states.
Read more here: http://civilwarsaga.com/slavery-cause-civil-war/

Some more sites: http://www.historynet.com/causes-of-the-civil-war
https://www.nps.gov/shil/learn/historyculture/upload/SLAVERY-BROCHURE.pdf
https://3monkswriting.com/the-causes-of-the-american-civil-war-essay-example/

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Jan 6, 2019 17:14:45   #
boofhead
 
rumitoid wrote:
The argument over whether slavery was the primary cause of the Civil War is one of the most controversial topics in American history. It is a subject that has been debated since the war first began in 1861.

Evidence That Slavery Was the Cause of the Civil War:

One way to determine the cause of the Civil War, is to examine the primary sources from that period to see if any explicit causes were cited.

The Civil War began after several states seceded from the Union in late 1860 and early 1861. Each state that seceded issued an Article of Secession announcing that they were leaving the Union.

In addition, four states: Texas, Mississippi, Georgia and South Carolina issued additional documents, known as the Declaration of Causes, that further explained their actions. These declarations discuss two major themes: slavery and state’s rights.

Georgia’s declaration focuses heavily on slavery and state’s rights, stating that it refused to be ruled over by an anti-slavery government:

“Our Northern confederates, after a full and calm hearing of all the facts, after a fair warning of our purpose not to submit to the rule of the authors of all these wrongs and injuries, have by a large majority committed the Government of the United States into their hands. The people of Georgia, after an equally full and fair and deliberate hearing of the case, have declared with equal firmness that they shall not rule over them. A brief history of the rise, progress, and policy of anti-slavery and the political organization into whose hands the administration of the Federal Government has been committed will fully justify the pronounced verdict of the people of Georgia. The party of Lincoln, called the Republican party, under its present name and organization, is of recent origin. It is admitted to be an anti-slavery party. While it attracts to itself by its creed the scattered advocates of exploded political heresies, of condemned theories in political economy, the advocates of commercial restrictions, of protection, of special privileges, of waste and corruption in the administration of Government, anti-slavery is its mission and its purpose. By anti-slavery it is made a power in the state. The question of slavery was the great difficulty in the way of the formation of the Constitution.”

Mississippi’s declaration is somewhat more straightforward on the subject when it states: “Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery.” The declaration then goes on to say that the state seceded because if it didn’t it would lose its slaves:
“Utter subjugation awaits us in the Union, if we should consent longer to remain in it. It is not a matter of choice, but of necessity. We must either submit to degradation, and to the loss of property worth four billions of money, or we must secede from the Union framed by our fathers, to secure this as well as every other species of property. For far less cause than this, our fathers separated from the Crown of England.”

South Carolina’s declaration also mentioned state’s rights and suggested the federal government’s actions towards slavery were a violation of the Constitution:

“The people of the State of South Carolina, in Convention assembled, on the 26th day of April, A.D., 1852, declared that the frequent violations of the Constitution of the United States, by the Federal Government, and its encroachments upon the reserved rights of the States, fully justified this State in then withdrawing from the Federal Union; but in deference to the opinions and wishes of the other slaveholding States, she forbore at that time to exercise this right.”

Texas’s declaration also mentions slavery and states rights but also discusses other grievances with the federal government, accusing it of failing to protect the state from Native American attacks and failing to do enough about Mexican immigration.

Another primary source pertaining to this topic is Abraham Lincoln’s famous Gettysburg Address. According to the book Lincoln at Gettysburg: The Words that Remade America by Garry Wills, in the speech, Lincoln argues that the Civil War is a battle for equal rights for African-Americans, particularly in his opening line:

“Fourscore and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal. Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation or any nation so conceived and so dedicated can long endure.”

Furthermore, Wills says that this speech eventually paved the way for the 14th amendment, which granted citizenship to former slaves.

Many primary sources of the time back up Wills claims. A number of newspapers picked up on the message of Lincoln’s speech and criticized the president for his bold assertion, such as The Chicago Times, which wrote:

“How dare he, then, standing on their [the soldiers] graves, misstate the cause for which they died, and libel the statesmen who founded the government? They were men possessing too much self-respect to declare that Negroes were their equals, or were entitled to equal privileges.”

However, we don’t know if Lincoln actually felt this way or if he was just hoping to gain support for the Union cause by equating the war with a noble struggle for human rights.

Another famous Civil War-era speech that states slavery was the cause of the Civil War was the “Cornerstone Speech” by Alexander Stephens, the Confederate Vice President. Stephens spoke in Savannah, Georgia in March of 1861, just weeks before the war officially started, during which he compared the Civil War to the Revolutionary War, in which a band of rebels overthrew a tyrannical government, and said that slavery was the cause of this new revolution:

“The new constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution African slavery as it exists amongst us the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution.”

Another useful primary source on the topic is the memoir of the Confederate President, Jefferson Davis, titled The Rise and Fall of the Confederate Government. In the preface of his memoir, Davis wrote that slavery, which he referred to as “African servitude,” was one of the main reasons for the Civil War:

“African servitude at that time was not confined to a section, but was numerically greater in the South than in the North, with a tendency to its continuance in the former and cessation in the latter. It therefore thus early presents itself as a disturbing element, and the provisions of the Constitution, which were known to be necessary for its adoption, bound all the states to recognize and protect that species of property. When at a subsequent period there arose in the Northern states an anti-slavery agitation, it was a harmless and scarcely noticed movement until political demagogues seized upon it as a means to acquire power. Had it been left to pseudo-philanthropists and fanatics, most zealous where least informed, it never could have shaken the foundations of the Union and have incited one section to carry fire and sword to the other.”

Why Was Slavery a Cause of the Civil War?

A common belief is that it was the dispute about the morality of slavery that caused the southern states to secede but in reality, it was the economic and political issues of slavery that really played a part in the outbreak of the war.

Slavery was important to the south because the southern economy, which was an agricultural-based economy whose biggest exports were cotton and tobacco, depended on slaves for labor. Southerners argued that ending slavery would devastate the southern economy.

The southern states wanted to assert their state’s rights over the federal government so they could abolish or ignore federal laws about slavery that they didn’t support.

In addition, the south wanted slave states to expand into the west while the north wanted to make western states free states.
Read more here: http://civilwarsaga.com/slavery-cause-civil-war/

Some more sites: http://www.historynet.com/causes-of-the-civil-war
https://www.nps.gov/shil/learn/historyculture/upload/SLAVERY-BROCHURE.pdf
https://3monkswriting.com/the-causes-of-the-american-civil-war-essay-example/
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The first time I visited the US was in 1965 and what I saw then showed me that the general population of the US thought that slavery was a good idea. Although in fact slavery had been ended the lives of the black people were not much different from what they had been 100 years before that time. I could not then, and do not now, agree that the average person in the US in 1865 would have put his life on the line for the black part of the population. I hope that this has changed, and the white population of the US would now stand up for the rights of the blacks, as they should for all citizens, no matter the color of their skin. But at the time of the civil war? No.

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Jan 6, 2019 17:43:01   #
rumitoid
 
boofhead wrote:
The first time I visited the US was in 1965 and what I saw then showed me that the general population of the US thought that slavery was a good idea. Although in fact slavery had been ended the lives of the black people were not much different from what they had been 100 years before that time. I could not then, and do not now, agree that the average person in the US in 1865 would have put his life on the line for the black part of the population. I hope that this has changed, and the white population of the US would now stand up for the rights of the blacks, as they should for all citizens, no matter the color of their skin. But at the time of the civil war? No.
The first time I visited the US was in 1965 and wh... (show quote)


Excellent observations. Thank you.

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Jan 6, 2019 20:20:39   #
vernon
 
boofhead wrote:
The first time I visited the US was in 1965 and what I saw then showed me that the general population of the US thought that slavery was a good idea. Although in fact slavery had been ended the lives of the black people were not much different from what they had been 100 years before that time. I could not then, and do not now, agree that the average person in the US in 1865 would have put his life on the line for the black part of the population. I hope that this has changed, and the white population of the US would now stand up for the rights of the blacks, as they should for all citizens, no matter the color of their skin. But at the time of the civil war? No.
The first time I visited the US was in 1965 and wh... (show quote)



Now reverse that thought do you think that the whites are under attack now. just imagine what a thinking person thought when Holder declared that whites have no more civil rights. I think that tells me what the people of color think of whites. And for those that will open their eyes they know that for eight years the whites in this country were being attacked in everyway. But for your information the elites were
for the civil war and the working stiff had the fight. Its to bad that some people can't see this as they attack the poor southern workers of the time.

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Jan 6, 2019 20:24:45   #
rumitoid
 
vernon wrote:
Now reverse that thought do you think that the whites are under attack now. just imagine what a thinking person thought when Holder declared that whites have no more civil rights. I think that tells me what the people of color think of whites.


Comment on the thread, please.

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Jan 6, 2019 20:38:10   #
vernon
 
rumitoid wrote:
Comment on the thread, please.



I make comments that I feel are apropos.

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Jan 7, 2019 11:13:56   #
okie don
 
Remember too that the northern coffers were empty and tarrifs imposed on the southern agricultural States.
Many felt this was taxation without representation. A factor!

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Jan 7, 2019 17:21:40   #
ExperienceCounts
 
okie don wrote:
Remember too that the northern coffers were empty and tarrifs imposed on the southern agricultural States.
Many felt this was taxation without representation. A factor!


During the same time frame, prisoners cleared the swamps in Georgia, indentured servants basically had no rights or property, females could own no property and had no recourse against an abusive father or husband, industrial revolution in north had small children working dawn to dusk in factories.

As for slavery itself, it existed in Moses' time, it existed during British expansion, it exists today. What? Not today, you say! What about the sex slaves of today, the cents a day paid workers in some factories, etc.

During the pre-civil war period some slave owners had started freeing slaves once they had recouped the purchase price of their investment. In some places it was against the law to educate a slave, some however worked around this law.

The South saw the laws being passed by the North as an attack on it's way of life and a sure bet of poverty being the outcome. The Northern army engaged in scorched earth policies. carpetbaggers, unfair taxes. End game, the South was right.

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Jan 7, 2019 21:25:50   #
dongreen76
 
rumitoid wrote:
The argument over whether slavery was the primary cause of the Civil War is one of the most controversial topics in American history. It is a subject that has been debated since the war first began in 1861.

Evidence That Slavery Was the Cause of the Civil War:

One way to determine the cause of the Civil War, is to examine the primary sources from that period to see if any explicit causes were cited.

The Civil War began after several states seceded from the Union in late 1860 and early 1861. Each state that seceded issued an Article of Secession announcing that they were leaving the Union.

In addition, four states: Texas, Mississippi, Georgia and South Carolina issued additional documents, known as the Declaration of Causes, that further explained their actions. These declarations discuss two major themes: slavery and state’s rights.

Georgia’s declaration focuses heavily on slavery and state’s rights, stating that it refused to be ruled over by an anti-slavery government:

“Our Northern confederates, after a full and calm hearing of all the facts, after a fair warning of our purpose not to submit to the rule of the authors of all these wrongs and injuries, have by a large majority committed the Government of the United States into their hands. The people of Georgia, after an equally full and fair and deliberate hearing of the case, have declared with equal firmness that they shall not rule over them. A brief history of the rise, progress, and policy of anti-slavery and the political organization into whose hands the administration of the Federal Government has been committed will fully justify the pronounced verdict of the people of Georgia. The party of Lincoln, called the Republican party, under its present name and organization, is of recent origin. It is admitted to be an anti-slavery party. While it attracts to itself by its creed the scattered advocates of exploded political heresies, of condemned theories in political economy, the advocates of commercial restrictions, of protection, of special privileges, of waste and corruption in the administration of Government, anti-slavery is its mission and its purpose. By anti-slavery it is made a power in the state. The question of slavery was the great difficulty in the way of the formation of the Constitution.”

Mississippi’s declaration is somewhat more straightforward on the subject when it states: “Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery.” The declaration then goes on to say that the state seceded because if it didn’t it would lose its slaves:
“Utter subjugation awaits us in the Union, if we should consent longer to remain in it. It is not a matter of choice, but of necessity. We must either submit to degradation, and to the loss of property worth four billions of money, or we must secede from the Union framed by our fathers, to secure this as well as every other species of property. For far less cause than this, our fathers separated from the Crown of England.”

South Carolina’s declaration also mentioned state’s rights and suggested the federal government’s actions towards slavery were a violation of the Constitution:

“The people of the State of South Carolina, in Convention assembled, on the 26th day of April, A.D., 1852, declared that the frequent violations of the Constitution of the United States, by the Federal Government, and its encroachments upon the reserved rights of the States, fully justified this State in then withdrawing from the Federal Union; but in deference to the opinions and wishes of the other slaveholding States, she forbore at that time to exercise this right.”

Texas’s declaration also mentions slavery and states rights but also discusses other grievances with the federal government, accusing it of failing to protect the state from Native American attacks and failing to do enough about Mexican immigration.

Another primary source pertaining to this topic is Abraham Lincoln’s famous Gettysburg Address. According to the book Lincoln at Gettysburg: The Words that Remade America by Garry Wills, in the speech, Lincoln argues that the Civil War is a battle for equal rights for African-Americans, particularly in his opening line:

“Fourscore and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal. Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation or any nation so conceived and so dedicated can long endure.”

Furthermore, Wills says that this speech eventually paved the way for the 14th amendment, which granted citizenship to former slaves.

Many primary sources of the time back up Wills claims. A number of newspapers picked up on the message of Lincoln’s speech and criticized the president for his bold assertion, such as The Chicago Times, which wrote:

“How dare he, then, standing on their [the soldiers] graves, misstate the cause for which they died, and libel the statesmen who founded the government? They were men possessing too much self-respect to declare that Negroes were their equals, or were entitled to equal privileges.”

However, we don’t know if Lincoln actually felt this way or if he was just hoping to gain support for the Union cause by equating the war with a noble struggle for human rights.

Another famous Civil War-era speech that states slavery was the cause of the Civil War was the “Cornerstone Speech” by Alexander Stephens, the Confederate Vice President. Stephens spoke in Savannah, Georgia in March of 1861, just weeks before the war officially started, during which he compared the Civil War to the Revolutionary War, in which a band of rebels overthrew a tyrannical government, and said that slavery was the cause of this new revolution:

“The new constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution African slavery as it exists amongst us the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution.”

Another useful primary source on the topic is the memoir of the Confederate President, Jefferson Davis, titled The Rise and Fall of the Confederate Government. In the preface of his memoir, Davis wrote that slavery, which he referred to as “African servitude,” was one of the main reasons for the Civil War:

“African servitude at that time was not confined to a section, but was numerically greater in the South than in the North, with a tendency to its continuance in the former and cessation in the latter. It therefore thus early presents itself as a disturbing element, and the provisions of the Constitution, which were known to be necessary for its adoption, bound all the states to recognize and protect that species of property. When at a subsequent period there arose in the Northern states an anti-slavery agitation, it was a harmless and scarcely noticed movement until political demagogues seized upon it as a means to acquire power. Had it been left to pseudo-philanthropists and fanatics, most zealous where least informed, it never could have shaken the foundations of the Union and have incited one section to carry fire and sword to the other.”

Why Was Slavery a Cause of the Civil War?

A common belief is that it was the dispute about the morality of slavery that caused the southern states to secede but in reality, it was the economic and political issues of slavery that really played a part in the outbreak of the war.

Slavery was important to the south because the southern economy, which was an agricultural-based economy whose biggest exports were cotton and tobacco, depended on slaves for labor. Southerners argued that ending slavery would devastate the southern economy.

The southern states wanted to assert their state’s rights over the federal government so they could abolish or ignore federal laws about slavery that they didn’t support.

In addition, the south wanted slave states to expand into the west while the north wanted to make western states free states.
Read more here: http://civilwarsaga.com/slavery-cause-civil-war/

Some more sites: http://www.historynet.com/causes-of-the-civil-war
https://www.nps.gov/shil/learn/historyculture/upload/SLAVERY-BROCHURE.pdf
https://3monkswriting.com/the-causes-of-the-american-civil-war-essay-example/
The argument over whether slavery was the primary ... (show quote)

For the one hundreth thousand time, and all times it has been iterated in this OPP forum.
NO !!!!! slavery was not the primary cause of the CIVIL WAR- It was money, specifically...TAXES !!!!!

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Jan 8, 2019 08:32:53   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
[quote=ExperienceCounts]During the same time frame, prisoners cleared the swamps in Georgia, indentured servants basically had no rights or property, females could own no property and had no recourse against an abusive father or husband, industrial revolution in north had small children working dawn to dusk in factories.

As for slavery itself, it existed in Moses' time, it existed during British expansion, it exists today. What? Not today, you say! What about the sex slaves of today, the cents a day paid workers in some factories, etc.

During the pre-civil war period some slave owners had started freeing slaves once they had recouped the purchase price of their investment. In some places it was against the law to educate a slave, some however worked around this law.

The South saw the laws being passed by the North as an attack on it's way of life and a sure bet of poverty being the outcome. The Northern army engaged in scorched earth policies. carpetbaggers, unfair taxes. End game, the South was right.[/quot




The greatest slave owners and traders were the middle east (Muslims) and yes its going on today........ As well as sex slaves.

Muslims hate blacks and were the most abusive, yet our liberal blacks reach out there arms to Muslims, ignorant of the evil truths

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Jan 8, 2019 12:02:03   #
dongreen76
 
[quote=jack sequim wa][quote=ExperienceCounts]During the same time frame, prisoners cleared the swamps in Georgia, indentured servants basically had no rights or property, females could own no property and had no recourse against an abusive father or husband, industrial revolution in north had small children working dawn to dusk in factories.

As for slavery itself, it existed in Moses' time, it existed during British expansion, it exists today. What? Not today, you say! What about the sex slaves of today, the cents a day paid workers in some factories, etc.

During the pre-civil war period some slave owners had started freeing slaves once they had recouped the purchase price of their investment. In some places it was against the law to educate a slave, some however worked around this law.

The South saw the laws being passed by the North as an attack on it's way of life and a sure bet of poverty being the outcome. The Northern army engaged in scorched earth policies. carpetbaggers, unfair taxes. End game, the South was right.[/quot




The greatest slave owners and traders were the middle east (Muslims) and yes its going on today........ As well as sex slaves.

Muslims hate blacks and were the most abusive, yet our liberal blacks reach out there arms to Muslims, ignorant of the evil truths[/quote]. I have never heard such a statement as that before of Muslims hating blacks.Morimar Quadaffi whom was of the Islamic faith,before he was killed had a meeting with Farrakhan and made contributions to Farrakhan's particular sect of Islamicdom-
For some one to hate some one else,blacks all through out the continent of Africa more or less Identify with the Islamic faith ,if any faith at all ,as oppose to the western faith,which is primarily the Christian faith.Here in America we have the Black Muslims,under Minister Louis Farrakhan,and there is another element of black Muslims head quartered in Newyork since Elijah Muhammad died.This element was headed up by Elijah Muhammads son,whom succeeded him after he died,last I heard.

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Jan 16, 2019 23:58:55   #
rumitoid
 
dongreen76 wrote:
For the one hundreth thousand time, and all times it has been iterated in this OPP forum.
NO !!!!! slavery was not the primary cause of the CIVIL WAR- It was money, specifically...TAXES !!!!!


If you take away historical facts that prove otherwise, enjoy The WH fare of "alternative facts" to make a useless point.

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