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Dec 23, 2018 16:42:33   #
rumitoid
 
Peewee wrote:
Especially when their mascot is a jackass.


Very true.

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Dec 23, 2018 16:46:36   #
rumitoid
 
buffalo wrote:
I really do not think we need a wall. We need to station enough armed military personnel along the border and put every one on notice that they can and will use whatever force is necessary to STOP the invasion of the US by illegals. In the meantime, enforce our immigration laws here and round up all illegals already here and kick them out!


Instead of the 100b estimated to totally complete The Wall, we could do something like what you suggest, instead with more Border Control agents and greater high-technology, plus an orderly and efficient way to process Asylum seekers, proper vetting, and judges to expedite those cases.

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Dec 23, 2018 18:34:25   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
rumitoid wrote:
GoFundMe users are throwing around lots of cash on increasingly ridiculous border wall-related campaigns.

It all started on Sunday when Brian Kolfage launched a page on the crowdfunding platform calling for Trump supporters to bypass Congress and just raise money to build Trump's wall themselves. The goal? Oh, just $1 billion. In less than a week, more than $12.6 million has been raised, with one big-spending user apparently donating $50,000.

Since that campaign started to gain traction, two competing pages have popped up, including one looking to raise $100 million to provide migrants with ladders to get over the wall. It launched Wednesday and has raised more than $89,000. But ladders might not even be required if another GoFundMe page is successful: User Luke O'Neil is looking to raise $200 million to build — wait for it — a "series of giant escalators" over the wall.

If this all sounds too ridiculous to be true, that's because it is. Both pages are fairly tongue-in-cheek and specify that the funds raised will actually go toward a nonprofit group that provides education and legal services to refugees and immigrants.

As for the millions being raised on the original GoFundMe page to pay for the wall (which President Trump repeatedly promised would be paid for by Mexico), any money donated to the U.S. government actually just goes into a fund for "general use" and wouldn't be designated for any particular purpose, Business Insider reports, although the page's founder insists he has an in with the White House to get around that, per NBC News. More than likely, all the people who have donated to this campaign would just be giving the federal government free cash to use on anything but building a wall, which would cost about 21 times the page's goal ridiculously lofty goal anyway. Brendan Morrow
GoFundMe users are throwing around lots of cash on... (show quote)


I don't know...the last I heard $12,000,000 has been raised. Obviously, a LOT of people WANT the wall. After the new deal with Canada and Mexico, Trump says the new revenue WILL pay for the wall, and he didn't say that Mexico would just write out a multi billion dollar check, now did he? NBC, eh??? Ummm hummm. They tell the tales you like to hear, don't they?
21 times? What would that be....like 6 months?
Like I said, the new revenue will pay for the wall ( in other words, Mexico) but we already know that the dems won't allow that, don't we ( does shutdown ring a bell?)
A 5 time deported illegal, who had already committed armed robbery, various assaults, and rape, went on a 2 day shooting spree, killing 2 people and wounding many others. The local police or sheriff said they could not even tell ICE that they were releasing this felon because of California sanctuary law. Now, Miss High Wall Around Her House Pelosi recently said that the wall was immoral, so I say let her tell that to the murder victims families, and to the wounded, the raped, the assaulted, the robbed. Anybody...ANYBODY HAS to be absolutely blind not to see the bizarre nature of her statements. Democrats have a brain like a balloon...blown up real big but there's nothing inside but hot air. Now, you can bet your last money on THAT!

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Dec 23, 2018 18:37:54   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
maximus wrote:
I don't know...the last I heard $12,000,000 has been raised. Obviously, a LOT of people WANT the wall. After the new deal with Canada and Mexico, Trump says the new revenue WILL pay for the wall, and he didn't say that Mexico would just write out a multi billion dollar check, now did he? NBC, eh??? Ummm hummm. They tell the tales you like to hear, don't they?
21 times? What would that be....like 6 months?
Like I said, the new revenue will pay for the wall ( in other words, Mexico) but we already know that the dems won't allow that, don't we ( does shutdown ring a bell?)
A 5 time deported illegal, who had already committed armed robbery, various assaults, and rape, went on a 2 day shooting spree, killing 2 people and wounding many others. The local police or sheriff said they could not even tell ICE that they were releasing this felon because of California sanctuary law. Now, Miss High Wall Around Her House Pelosi recently said that the wall was immoral, so I say let her tell that to the murder victims families, and to the wounded, the raped, the assaulted, the robbed. Anybody...ANYBODY HAS to be absolutely blind not to see the bizarre nature of her statements. Democrats have a brain like a balloon...blown up real big but there's nothing inside but hot air. Now, you can bet your last money on THAT!
I don't know...the last I heard $12,000,000 has be... (show quote)



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Dec 23, 2018 19:25:58   #
rumitoid
 
maximus wrote:
I don't know...the last I heard $12,000,000 has been raised. Obviously, a LOT of people WANT the wall. After the new deal with Canada and Mexico, Trump says the new revenue WILL pay for the wall, and he didn't say that Mexico would just write out a multi billion dollar check, now did he? NBC, eh??? Ummm hummm. They tell the tales you like to hear, don't they?
21 times? What would that be....like 6 months?
Like I said, the new revenue will pay for the wall ( in other words, Mexico) but we already know that the dems won't allow that, don't we ( does shutdown ring a bell?)
A 5 time deported illegal, who had already committed armed robbery, various assaults, and rape, went on a 2 day shooting spree, killing 2 people and wounding many others. The local police or sheriff said they could not even tell ICE that they were releasing this felon because of California sanctuary law. Now, Miss High Wall Around Her House Pelosi recently said that the wall was immoral, so I say let her tell that to the murder victims families, and to the wounded, the raped, the assaulted, the robbed. Anybody...ANYBODY HAS to be absolutely blind not to see the bizarre nature of her statements. Democrats have a brain like a balloon...blown up real big but there's nothing inside but hot air. Now, you can bet your last money on THAT!
I don't know...the last I heard $12,000,000 has be... (show quote)


"After the new deal with Canada and Mexico, Trump says the new revenue WILL pay for the wall." Read this: https://www.forbes.com/sites/phillevy/2018/12/18/can-the-new-nafta-pay-for-trumps-wall/#25360e36ee10 And this: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/18/administration-fails-to-explain-how-usmca-could-pay-for-the-wall.html Spoiler: "the new deal with Canada and Mexico" will not pay for The Wall, even a single screw or nail.

Try to grasp the reality in the present: Trump is demanding we pay for the wall, not Mexico. He even stopped asking for months now.

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Dec 23, 2018 19:44:06   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
OK hippy's...Why are we sending money to fund the end of south american communista invasion?
Cuz some of have been involved in this shut the border down game for over 20 years, and we've been told by both
the Leftist's and the RINO's that their number one priority is to ((back than it was a 2 tiered fence))
Secure The Border>>>But The Duopoly is still lying to us, only wanting to protect the DC Criminals.
But does not give a Damn about the Hard Workin Honest American Taxpayin Citizen=The Golden Goose that pays the bill

Than along came the Trumpy...And you Commie Hippys started ridiculing him 3yrs ago,
Now Keep Ridiculin Us 'Hippy's' And Watch what happens

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Dec 23, 2018 21:38:17   #
RoyinNC
 
The fund is up to $16.33 million now!

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Dec 23, 2018 22:11:00   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
RoyinNC wrote:
The fund is up to $16.33 million now!


Yeaaaaaaaa! Go America!

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Dec 24, 2018 00:35:15   #
kemmer
 
vernon wrote:
I hate to tell you this but you can designate you money to a certain project.


Tell that to the now defunct and under prosecution Trump "Charities".

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Dec 24, 2018 01:20:46   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
rumitoid wrote:
"After the new deal with Canada and Mexico, Trump says the new revenue WILL pay for the wall." Read this: https://www.forbes.com/sites/phillevy/2018/12/18/can-the-new-nafta-pay-for-trumps-wall/#25360e36ee10 And this: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/18/administration-fails-to-explain-how-usmca-could-pay-for-the-wall.html Spoiler: "the new deal with Canada and Mexico" will not pay for The Wall, even a single screw or nail.

Try to grasp the reality in the present: Trump is demanding we pay for the wall, not Mexico. He even stopped asking for months now.
"After the new deal with Canada and Mexico, T... (show quote)
The United States foreign aid to Mexico averages $300 million per year, this amount targets assistance for 10 programs the Mexican government is supposed to be implementing, including International Narcotics & Law Enforcement, In-Country Counternarcotics Program, Violence Prevention program (JVP), and 7 others. Yet, where are the results? What is Mexico doing to reduce crime and interdict drug and human trafficking? Mexico is 20th on the list of nations with the highest crime rates. Narcotics and drugs coming into the US from Mexico, Central and South America are all smuggled through Mexico. We give Mexico more than any other country and what do we get? A flood of illegals and drugs. Helluva deal.

The US GAO took data from 3 national studies on the costs of illegal immigration and published its findings: All three national studies concluded that illegal aliens in the United States generate more in costs than revenues to federal, state, and local governments combined.

According to research by the Center for Immigration Studies on the Cost of a Border Wall vs. the Cost of Illegal Immigration, the fiscal burden on American taxpayers is $75,000 for each and every illegal. The number of illegals in the US is near 12 million, most of whom are on some sort of welfare program. You do the math. If that is possible.

CIS Key Findings

There is agreement among researchers that illegal immigrants overwhelmingly have modest levels of education — most have not completed high school or have only a high school education.

There is also agreement that immigrants who come to America with modest levels of education create significantly more in costs for government than they pay in taxes.

A recent NAS study estimated the lifetime fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) of immigrants by education. Averaging the cost estimates from that study and combining them with the education levels of illegal border-crossers shows a net fiscal drain of $74,722 per illegal crosser.

The above figures are only for the original illegal immigrants and do not include any costs for their U.S.-born descendants. If we use the NAS projections that include the descendants, the fiscal drain for border-crossers grows to $94,391 each.

This means that for each 100,000 illegal immigrants stopped or deterred by a wall, the saving to taxpayers would be nearly $7.5 billion.

If a border wall prevented 160,000 to 200,000 illegal crossings (excluding descendants) in the next 10 years it would be enough to pay for the estimated $12 to $15 billion cost of the wall.

Newly released research by the Institute for Defense Analyses (IDA) done for the Department of Homeland Security indicates that 170,000 illegal immigrants crossed the border successfully without going through a port of entry in 2015. While a significant decline in crossings from a decade ago, it still means that there may be 1.7 million successful crossings in the next decade. If a wall stopped just 9 to 12 percent of these crossings it would pay for itself.

If a wall stopped half of those expected to successfully enter illegally without going through a port of entry at the southern border over the next 10 years, it would save taxpayers nearly $64 billion — several times the wall’s cost.


The effectiveness of a border wall has already been proven in the San Diego area and elsewhere, walls have reduced illegal border crossings by as much as 95%.

Build the damned wall, who gives a shit who fronts the money, at the rate things are going, the wall would pay for itself in one year.

Mexico's Vigilante State - Fault Lines
The BORDER STATES of AMERICA
Mexican cartels threatening tourism in Cancun

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Dec 24, 2018 01:44:29   #
RoyinNC
 
Build the wall!

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Dec 24, 2018 06:47:10   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
[quote=rumitoid]Never underestimate the gullibility of people.[/qu
I see it all the time...like the ones buying ladders and building escalators. Well published fields of toe poppers would take care of any such anti American nonsense and requires no maintenance. Just a big sign about every 500 yards stating, Danger. Go Back. There are thousands of mines ahead. Save your own feet. Go Back.... in about 5 of the most used languages. The border will be quiet in less than a day. Don't call me callus, what would happen to me if say, I busted the border of France, or even Canada. I'd be arrested PDQ and deported forthwith. In California, the police can't even call ICE to say we're turning a convicted felon loose today, because of sanctuary law. I can barely make myself even believe that that is really happening. I'm sad to say.....it is true.

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Dec 24, 2018 10:41:45   #
TrueAmerican
 
Peewee wrote:
Especially when their mascot is a jackass.


Spot on --- couldn't have said it better

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Dec 24, 2018 10:48:37   #
kemmer
 
TrueAmerican wrote:
Spot on --- couldn't have said it better

The vast majority of "illegals" in the country are here simply because they have over stayed their visas.
What nobody seems to mind is that most of those who have overstayed their visas/work permits are Canadians. Why the big stink about Hispanics overstaying their visas? Because they are brown people!

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Dec 24, 2018 12:00:57   #
RoyinNC
 
When people overstay their visa's, they are illegals and should be deported, regardless of color, race or nationality.

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