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Dec 13, 2018 16:39:08   #
Nickolai
 
maximus wrote:
Why would he? You guys had 8 years to bail and didn't. Look at worst president ever on google and you'll see what I mean.


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https://qz.com/914825/presidents-day-the-best-us-presidents-in-history-as-ranked-by-presidential-historians/
I did and it was James Buchannon not Obama Check here to see where Historians rank Obama

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Dec 13, 2018 16:48:17   #
Nickolai
 
johnsorrell7 wrote:
The comment that they caught 10 terrorist, so they much be doing a good job, is asinine in the most extreme. The Border Patrol arrested over 56 thousand of these assholes in October. Yeh, they’re doing a hell of a job, otherwise you would be paying even more taxes than you already are.. You think France is having second thoughts about the open borders the EU forced on them? Just so you can check the facts; the Border Patrol arrested more tan the 56 thousand illegals in October of this year. Before you make these kind of comments, you should consider two things, first quit the Gin, second, educate your self a little bit more before popping off with your stupidity. You will have more luck after quitting the Gin.
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trump wants you to believe Liberals want open boarders we don't . We just want the US to continue being a nations of laws and not a tin pot dictatorship. Russia wanted the sanctions lifter and they found willing participants in the Trump campaign and now we find an investigation in to the Trump inauguration spending based on a recording by Michael Cohen the Trump personal fixer

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Dec 13, 2018 16:52:27   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Nickolai wrote:
trump wants you to believe Liberals want open boarders we don't . We just want the US to continue being a nations of laws and not a tin pot dictatorship. Russia wanted the sanctions lifter and they found willing participants in the Trump campaign and now we find an investigation in to the Trump inauguration spending based on a recording by Michael Cohen the Trump personal fixer


So you supported Trump enforcing the laws regarding immigrants trying to get in illegally. So what is the problem??

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Dec 13, 2018 17:20:23   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Nickolai wrote:
trump wants you to believe Liberals want open boarders we don't . We just want the US to continue being a nations of laws and not a tin pot dictatorship. Russia wanted the sanctions lifter and they found willing participants in the Trump campaign and now we find an investigation in to the Trump inauguration spending based on a recording by Michael Cohen the Trump personal fixer


You are a very old man, as am I. However, it seems you don't understand the difference in borders and boarders. Right?

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Dec 13, 2018 17:24:32   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Have you failed to hear that most books that would include something like presidential rankings have been written and published by liberals since about 1940. I heard that one just the other day. There are some conservative sites that may be different than any you could find on Google. I stopped using Google months ago when I realized that they were too far left leaning for me. I just used, bing, my general site and found many of the kind you get on Google but not all were like that.

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Dec 13, 2018 18:02:27   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Seth wrote:
Rich©.

Fractional cuts, $10k cap on city/state tax write-offs on federal returns. How many middle class people do you know have local taxes anywhere near that much?

At the same time, the standard deduction is doubled. That's strictly a middle class concern.

So how can you folks continue perpetuating a lie that you KNOW is a lie?



Darn it Seth, I am trying to stay off the posting bit.. and you go toss this out..

Corp cuts.. being used mostly for stock buy back, drives stock up for no other reason. Management and others sell at raised prices and stock options, they make a ton of money for them selves.
less then 6% of tax gift is going to wages, jobs or building capacity.. that is all the same as the other times trickle down has cost America part of its future.. same old, same old..

cap on local and state tax??? I would say a large number of the middle class deal with that level of tax and are losing the write off.. and do not forget, local tax was not the only thing the middle class lost..

Medical, education and all property tax was capped or lost outright..

Standard deduction doubled.. In many cases that has been a lose from the very first year.. and remember, the middle class cuts are temporary, while the rich and corps cuts are permanent..

any reason why the rich tax cuts could not be temporary?? or some part of them?? Hell NO.... What will the middle class have left when the cuts are removed??

By cutting the income needed to run our nation, and no recourse, only the working and middle class will end up paying the unpayabel national debt. pushed up an other trillion dollars in less the 2 years..

In the orange ding bats very first spending bill.. He and his are an atrocity... damaging America beyond repair..



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Dec 13, 2018 18:17:27   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
maximus wrote:
I believe it's that prosecutor out in California that was arrested the other day for possession of child pornography. You know the one, he's a democrat....................Oh! Wait a minute...Trump don't support democrats, does he?

What he's really talking about is a lame accusation from many years ago,(where have we heard that one before), and it was never proven and as soon as the dems got what they wanted, it was dropped. He only says it now in an effort to make Trump look bad. He calls Trump an adulterer but if Trump has had sex in the WH, it was with his wife, not an intern, and Trump don't smoke, so no cigar either. But what Slick Willie did was A.O.K. You know, Hillary said we should believe the women ( remember Kavanaugh?), BUT in her husband's case the women were lying. She, as a lawyer, got a man off for having sex with a 12 year old, and was recorded talking and laughing about it. Also, I'll bet you didn't know the the Women's March that all the dems bragged on and protested with was built on antisemitism. That's racism in it's purest form, like the old KKK. Don't even go there, liberals!!! I'm not saying they're any better today, but their violent tactics have stopped because people won't put up with it today.

And that's brings us to the end of today's lesson.
I believe it's that prosecutor out in California t... (show quote)




such a foolish thing to try and make believe... the world knows the hypocrites of the GOP are exposed every day..

these are only a couple, many many more, easy to find..

https://www.independent.co.uk › News › World › Americas


https://www.seattletimes.com/.../providence-pastor-arraigned-on-child-molestation-charg...
Mar 8, 2017 - Pastor, a GOP official, is arraigned on molestation charges .

https://globalnews.ca/news/.../roy-moore-candidacy-slammed-by-religious-liberals/

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Dec 13, 2018 18:29:40   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
johnsorrell7 wrote:
The comment that they caught 10 terrorist, so they much be doing a good job, is asinine in the most extreme. The Border Patrol arrested over 56 thousand of these assholes in October. Yeh, they’re doing a hell of a job, otherwise you would be paying even more taxes than you already are.. You think France is having second thoughts about the open borders the EU forced on them? Just so you can check the facts; the Border Patrol arrested more tan the 56 thousand illegals in October of this year. Before you make these kind of comments, you should consider two things, first quit the Gin, second, educate your self a little bit more before popping off with your stupidity. You will have more luck after quitting the Gin.
The comment that they caught 10 terrorist, so they... (show quote)


Look at the correct numbers, as you did, pretty much, but also view the context..

Ask; why now???

https://www.npr.org/2018/12/06/674434725/new-southwest-border-arrests-jump-78-percent-in-novembe

New government figures released Friday show that the U.S. Border Patrol arrested 51,856 individuals attempting to illegally cross the southern border in November. That's a 78 percent increase over the same period last year.

The escalating arrests represent a high-water mark for apprehensions under the Trump administration and the number of those apprehended are increasingly adults with children.

In November of last year, 7,016 "family units" were apprehended. In November 2018, the number of families arrested jumped almost fourfold to 25,172, while only 5,283 were unaccompanied children.

U.S. Border Patrol data covering fiscal year 2000 to FY2017 shows that the last time more than 50,000 people were arrested at the southern border in the month of November was 2007. It was during the administration of President George W. Bush and 51,594 people were caught.

Back then, the unauthorized migrants were largely Mexicans. The current wave of migrants is increasingly from Central America's "Northern Triangle" countries of Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador.

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Dec 13, 2018 19:45:38   #
teabag09
 
Oh man! Now you've really gone and done it. You just sent poor ole Kevy spinning on the floor trying for his body to catch up with his head. You're a mean one Mr. Grinch. Mike
Seth wrote:
Hey, don't blame his impeccable information sources, just because their sources are highly peccable.

Because these leftists' sources' sources are as peccable as they are, the sources have no choice but to consult their large pool of well placed anonymous sources, which they keep on tap in order to cover up the peccability of the sources they normally consult and the extreme peccability of...

Just saying.
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Dec 13, 2018 19:48:21   #
teabag09
 
Airfart, none of that was after 01/06/2017. None of it is worth a bucket of spit. Mike
Airforceone wrote:
The most amazing thing to me is the right believes absolutely nothing that may show Trump in a negative way. They refuse to acknowledge anything that he has done in the past. His scams, his bankruptcy, porno star affair 5 weeks after birth of his son, support for Pedaphile’s, his pathological lying, all ignored the character of this real estate agent put in the White House.

This man has done nothing that he promised except a 19% tax cut for the upper 1%.

But when the facts on Trump are actually exposed of OPP it’s all fake news. There are a few conservatives on OPP that are interested in facts and have an open mind.
(BUT THESE RIGHT WING HATE FILLED RACIST ITS IMPOSSIBLE THERE CLOSE MINDED AND A DANGER TO ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING THAT MADE THIS COUNTRY GREAT.
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Dec 13, 2018 20:12:12   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Thank you Archie. There is a huge difference and many people do not have the insight as you have.

On a different note... has Ms. B settled into her new schedule? Please let her know I asked about her.


Thank you Penny. And, yes, she is adjusting pretty well. Finally getting plenty of sleep, and eating reglar. The four footers are also doing well now, and I've become quite the homemaker in a quiet sort of way so as not to disturb her sleep.

I will definitely tell her that you asked, and are pulling for her too.

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Dec 13, 2018 20:16:53   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
oldroy wrote:
You are a very old man, as am I. However, it seems you don't understand the difference in borders and boarders. Right?


Thank you Roy.

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Dec 13, 2018 21:02:51   #
texasdude
 
I was talking about kevvy

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Dec 13, 2018 21:04:56   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
If you use the quote reply button it eliminates confusion to whom you are replying.

texasdude wrote:
I was talking about kevvy

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Dec 13, 2018 21:42:17   #
Seth
 
Nickolai wrote:
It seems to me
You are the bonehead Only about $350 billion has been repatriated to date a few one time bonuses resulted and the bulk has been used to by back stock which boost share value and makes the rich richer and not to expand their businesses. Business cannot expand until demand increases. I ran my own drywall business for 20 years but I never created one job and it wouldn't have mattered if my taxes were cut in half. Jobs were created when there needed an apartment, condo, or single family home and had the down payment required and credit worthiness to purchase or rent. The big developers didn't create jobs-- demand is what creates jobs. There is no way I would have invested in tools and equipment and expanded my business until demand increased. Demand creates all the jobs and pays the tax revenues. There was no need for that tax cut History teaches us tax cuts are only a mild stimulus to the economy because they go to people who don't need a tax cut and it leads to deficits and a run up in the National debt
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You STILL don't get it.

The demand for goods and services has never gone away, Obama's oppressive regulations and the highest corporate taxes in the world rendered the United States less business friendly than most of the rest of the world, so jobs here either dried up or travelled to other countries.

Trump's Tax Cuts© restored a business friendly environment in America, meaning that companies, both repatriating operations and expanding domestic operations in order to increase profits, have begun hiring again.

It's called The Marketplace, and that's how it works.

More job openings means more employer competition to fill job openings, and that's what's known as an "employees' market." Salaries begin increasing and benefits packages get better.

Now, I don't know what planet you come from or how much exposure you've had to the marketplace, but this is, and always has been, the way it works, and no amount of socialist propaganda or rewriting of the science of human nature is going to change that.

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