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Dec 13, 2018 11:38:31   #
johnsorrell7
 
The comment that they caught 10 terrorist, so they much be doing a good job, is asinine in the most extreme. The Border Patrol arrested over 56 thousand of these assholes in October. Yeh, they’re doing a hell of a job, otherwise you would be paying even more taxes than you already are.. You think France is having second thoughts about the open borders the EU forced on them? Just so you can check the facts; the Border Patrol arrested more tan the 56 thousand illegals in October of this year. Before you make these kind of comments, you should consider two things, first quit the Gin, second, educate your self a little bit more before popping off with your stupidity. You will have more luck after quitting the Gin.

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Dec 13, 2018 11:50:54   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Astounding to me that anyone could actually suggest that ISIS or any other terror group have not come in through Mexico with other illegals. But when googling this topic, link after link are articles and reports that there are zero terrorists coming in to the US across the southern border. I find it truly astounding and it appears to very obvious that Google is suppressing information about this.

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Dec 13, 2018 11:56:03   #
DASHY
 
johnsorrell7 wrote:
The comment that they caught 10 terrorist, so they much be doing a good job, is asinine in the most extreme. The Border Patrol arrested over 56 thousand of these assholes in October. Yeh, they’re doing a hell of a job, otherwise you would be paying even more taxes than you already are.. You think France is having second thoughts about the open borders the EU forced on them? Just so you can check the facts; the Border Patrol arrested more tan the 56 thousand illegals in October of this year. Before you make these kind of comments, you should consider two things, first quit the Gin, second, educate your self a little bit more before popping off with your stupidity. You will have more luck after quitting the Gin.
The comment that they caught 10 terrorist, so they... (show quote)


More proof that we don't need to waste tax dollars on Big Beautiful Walls, we should direct our resources to hiring more Border Patrol Agents to arrest more assholes tying to terrorize us at our southern border.

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Dec 13, 2018 12:21:59   #
federally indicted mattoid
 
Agree 100% Airforceone... They're like the crowd in the children's story "The Emperor Has No Clothes"

I think Michael Cohen just took the role of the little boy in the crowd... This will be interesting.


Airforceone wrote:
The most amazing thing to me is the right believes absolutely nothing that may show Trump in a negative way. They refuse to acknowledge anything that he has done in the past. His scams, his bankruptcy, porno star affair 5 weeks after birth of his son, support for Pedaphile’s, his pathological lying, all ignored the character of this real estate agent put in the White House.

This man has done nothing that he promised except a 19% tax cut for the upper 1%.

But when the facts on Trump are actually exposed of OPP it’s all fake news. There are a few conservatives on OPP that are interested in facts and have an open mind.
(BUT THESE RIGHT WING HATE FILLED RACIST ITS IMPOSSIBLE THERE CLOSE MINDED AND A DANGER TO ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING THAT MADE THIS COUNTRY GREAT.
The most amazing thing to me is the right believes... (show quote)

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Dec 13, 2018 12:25:44   #
federally indicted mattoid
 
No Seth, you may not. You are projecting. It is you who is the bonehead. (I hope this doesn't rise to insult and get deleted again.)

Seth wrote:
Yo, bonehead! May I call you bonehead?

I get so tired of repeating the same lesson over and over to useful idiots who simply can't grasp thr simplest of concepts.
Uman
So allow me to attempt this once more:
.
1. "The Rich© who sit atop these big, Evil Corporations® (you know, those satanic, ultra- oppressive conglomerates of capitalists that create jobs and drive our economy, those sons of bitches) don't personally benefit from those corporate tax cuts, the corporations do. These aren't people, per se, they are profit-driven entities composed of material, financial and human assets.

The finances of those entities are their productiviry drivers. While they have nothing to do with the personal fortunes of The Rich©, tax cuts and relief from stifling regulations provide them with the financial assets (capital, the first seven tenths of the word "capitalist") to expand their businesses in terms, at the very least, of production and delivery.

This nefarious act of basic capitalism attacks us froot m two fronts.

a) it creates jobs, and

b) it generates taxes.

And that, bonehead, may I call you bonehead? is the extent of the benefits of the tax cuts. They were instrumental in creating jobs.

Jobs generate taxes, as long as they're not "off the books."

So now let's walk over to the realm of The
Yo, bonehead! May I call you bonehead? br br I ge... (show quote)

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Dec 13, 2018 12:42:08   #
JoyV
 
Kevyn wrote:
President Donald Trump said on Tuesday that U.S. authorities had "caught 10 terrorists," citing it as a reason for why the United States should build a wall on its Mexican border, but four government sources said there was no recent evidence of terrorism suspects being caught along the border.
A senior U.S. counterterrorism official, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue, said: "We do not have evidence of known or suspected foreign terrorist organizations trying to infiltrate the southern U.S. border.”
President Donald Trump said on Tuesday that U.S. a... (show quote)


This only says no known or suspected foreign terrorist organizations. Not no terrorists. Not all terrorists are actual documented members of terrorist organizations, whether known or not.

But Trump's count was incorrect. I'm including a few foreign born terrorists who were caught. Many on this list had also committed murder.
Mohamed Abdirahman Osman
Zeinab Abdirahman Mohamed
Omar Abdulsattar Ameen -- ISIS
Hamid Hayat
Aws Mohammed Younis al-Jayab
Ali Kourani
Samer el Debek -- Hizballah
Cristian Vintila -- FARC (Fuerzas Armada Revolucionarias de Colombia )
Jubair Ahmad
Naser Almadaoji
Iyman Faris
Rasmi Khader Almallah -- Hamas
Fawaz Mohammed Damrah -- multiple Palestinian terror organizations
Gilberto Jordan
Beatrice Munyenyezi
Kelbessa Negewo
Rasmea Odeh
Vicky Peláez
Jorge Sosa

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/doj-dhs-report-three-out-four-individuals-convicted-international-terrorism-and-terrorism

From the risk analysis of DHS "Foreign-born terrorists who entered the country, either as immigrants or tourists, were responsible for 88 percent (or 3,024) of the 3,432 murders caused by terrorists on U.S. soil from 1975 through the end of 2015. "

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Dec 13, 2018 12:45:20   #
JoyV
 
woodguru wrote:
Hey if they caught ten terrorists they are doing their jobs, why the need to build a wall?


If they caught ten, how many more slipped through? Use your noggin!

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Dec 13, 2018 12:51:28   #
JoyV
 
Seth wrote:
Hey, don't blame his impeccable information sources, just because their sources are highly peccable.

Because these leftists' sources' sources are as peccable as they are, the sources have no choice but to consult their large pool of well placed anonymous sources, which they keep on tap in order to cover up the peccability of the sources they normally consult and the extreme peccability of...

Just saying.
Hey, don't blame his impeccable information source... (show quote)



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Dec 13, 2018 12:55:20   #
JoyV
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Astounding to me that anyone could actually suggest that ISIS or any other terror group have not come in through Mexico with other illegals. But when googling this topic, link after link are articles and reports that there are zero terrorists coming in to the US across the southern border. I find it truly astounding and it appears to very obvious that Google is suppressing information about this.


Two were caught a while back in my county. Picked up on SR80 which passes about 15 miles from me. So definitely don't believe the "zero terrorists" news.

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Dec 13, 2018 12:58:24   #
Seth
 
useful mattoid 45 wrote:
No Seth, you may not. You are projecting. It is you who is the bonehead. (I hope this doesn't rise to insult and get deleted again.)


Welllll...

There are certain things that are so obvious to anyone with even an iota of analytical capability and minimal exposure to economic reality that when one sees where somebody is so obtuse that they base arguments on a total, "ignore the obvious" contradiction of these things, one can honestly opine that the source of these same contradictions is

a) so politically "zombified" that he/she simply speaks the party line even when it has bluntly descended to the level of buffoonery, or

b) a bonehead.

To my way of thinking, a bonehead is the more preferable of the two, as there is still a possibility that the bonehead places love of country above a political dogma geared specifically to bring down said country and can eventually become better informed, whereas the political zombie, a mainly left wing phenomenon, simply and irrationally hates America as a concept, in the case of many whose posts I've read herein, would be thrilled to see our Constitutional republic collapse, being replaced by a socialist country -- thrilled, that is, until they fully realize exactly what they and the left wing politicans they voted for have actually gotten us into, and that it is too late to do anything about it.

So consider "bonehead" a more esteemed type of classification than "a)".

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Dec 13, 2018 13:00:36   #
DASHY
 
JoyV wrote:
This only says no known or suspected foreign terrorist organizations. Not no terrorists. Not all terrorists are actual documented members of terrorist organizations, whether known or not.

But Trump's count was incorrect. I'm including a few foreign born terrorists who were caught. Many on this list had also committed murder.
Mohamed Abdirahman Osman
Zeinab Abdirahman Mohamed
Omar Abdulsattar Ameen -- ISIS
Hamid Hayat
Aws Mohammed Younis al-Jayab
Ali Kourani
Samer el Debek -- Hizballah
Cristian Vintila -- FARC (Fuerzas Armada Revolucionarias de Colombia )
Jubair Ahmad
Naser Almadaoji
Iyman Faris
Rasmi Khader Almallah -- Hamas
Fawaz Mohammed Damrah -- multiple Palestinian terror organizations
Gilberto Jordan
Beatrice Munyenyezi
Kelbessa Negewo
Rasmea Odeh
Vicky Peláez
Jorge Sosa

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/doj-dhs-report-three-out-four-individuals-convicted-international-terrorism-and-terrorism

From the risk analysis of DHS "Foreign-born terrorists who entered the country, either as immigrants or tourists, were responsible for 88 percent (or 3,024) of the 3,432 murders caused by terrorists on U.S. soil from 1975 through the end of 2015. "
This only says no known or suspected foreign terro... (show quote)


Good article. I wonder how many terrorists entered on foot across our southern border. It seems like it would be a very slow slug if a terrorist chose the caravan as a way to sneak into our country. I also wonder why Trump continues to risk hiring foreign-born workers to serve his meals and iron his boxers.

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Dec 13, 2018 13:04:21   #
texasdude
 
What we call in texas a PAB, punk ass bitch!!

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Dec 13, 2018 13:09:23   #
federally indicted mattoid
 
PAOB
Punk ass orange bitch -- fits to a tee!

Look at trump's history of underpaying his employees, or not paying his contractors at all. Long hours, no overtime. Work done, no pay. Would his base want this to happen to them?

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Dec 13, 2018 13:55:06   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
This is not an entirely true statement.... there were times that President Trump used a loophole in the laws for contractors, known as "selling out goodwill." This is absolutely legal and is employed often in the business world. Let me see if I can give you an example that is basic and short (I tend to get long winded). Let us say that you are a painter and a business hires you to paint their buildings. Let us say that you shook hands on doing that work for $100K.
You do most of the work but subcontract out a portion and you submit the bill for payment.
The customer walks the site with you and points out issues. Due to those issues, the customer says they will only pay $50K. You have a choice.... take the new offering or sue. If you sue then the most you can get is the remainder of funds (total $100K), contract law does not allow for punitive damages or cost of the attorney. So.... do you go to court, and lose money you have to shell out to lawyers and also risk of loosing your case and receive only $50K or less plus the expense of lawyers and court fees or just complain to the media to warn other contractors? Naturally when the person talks to the media they do not go into details....such as watering down the paint to make it go further or even not painting behind equipment. Also, contractors are responsible for paying their workers and for scheduling. Ergo, if overtime is necessary to bring the job in on time (normally there is a penalty clause if you go beyond the delivery date) the contractor eats that extra outlay.

You would need to provide more specifics of nonpayment to workers who are not contracted that President Trump did not pay. For example a maid or chef who worked directly for the Trumps. I can not find any examples where he did not pay a personal employee.

useful mattoid 45 wrote:
PAOB
Punk ass orange bitch -- fits to a tee!

Look at trump's history of underpaying his employees, or not paying his contractors at all. Long hours, no overtime. Work done, no pay. Would his base want this to happen to them?

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Dec 13, 2018 14:03:58   #
Fit2BTied Loc: Texas
 
Kevyn wrote:
President Donald Trump said on Tuesday that U.S. authorities had "caught 10 terrorists," citing it as a reason for why the United States should build a wall on its Mexican border, but four government sources said there was no recent evidence of terrorism suspects being caught along the border.
A senior U.S. counterterrorism official, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue, said: "We do not have evidence of known or suspected foreign terrorist organizations trying to infiltrate the southern U.S. border.”
President Donald Trump said on Tuesday that U.S. a... (show quote)
The President mispoke. There are a number of links that talk about how that "statistic" morphed into being. I'm willing to bet that the real number of people considered terrorists who have been detained coming over the southern border is a only known by a few members in the legistlature, since it's the kind of info that the intelligence community isn't readily sharing. So I guess we can commence the impeachment hearings.../sarcasm.

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