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Dec 11, 2018 17:20:30   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Nickolai wrote:
There is no evidence of extortion. The evidence is Trump directed his fixer Cohen to pay the women to keep their mouths shut about with an election coming up he did not want anybody to know about them and that he had porked em while Melania was recovering from giving birth to his son Baron
How do you feel about BJ Clinton's sexual escapades, in the Oval Office no less?

Or, how about that compulsive womanizer, JFK, who holds the record for extramarital affairs? He was rightfully branded as a serial adulterer. Jack told any one who would listen, "If I don’t have sex every day, I get a headache."

Or, maybe you should read Lady Bird's account of Lyndon's "dark side." She said he was "moody, depressive, lecherous and lusty, a sexual gorilla who collected women, felt entitled to their services."

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Dec 11, 2018 17:27:52   #
Nickolai
 
woodguru wrote:
It doesn't matter how flawed he is, what matters is if what he says has other corroboration.

Ever hear that the cover up is worse than the original crime? It's the lies, Trump can have whatever kinds of affairs with hookers and porn stars he wants, he repeatedly lied, every time he got caught he stepped the lie up to something else. He could have written a personal check, who would care? It was timing, right before the election and he rightly thought that the scandal would hurt his election chances. If that's the case the people have a right to know.

While the lie and campaign fraud would seem to be a crime, it's using campaign funds that looks to be the thing.

This is what happens when a party politicizes impeachment and goes after a president for a blow job, paybacks are a bitch...that said this is worse than a BJ.
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In 2000 I asked my right wing cousin from fly over country why the Republicans did what they did to Bill Clinton--he said --to get back for what they dun to Reagan . I said but Reagan had it coming he sold arms to Iran and funneled the profits to the Contras in Nicaragua circumventing congress and that it constituted treason and Reagan knew it but did it anyway

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Dec 11, 2018 17:38:30   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Look it up. It is the definition of extortion.
Nickolai wrote:
There is no evidence of extortion. The evidence is Trump directed his fixer Cohen to pay the women to keep their mouths shut about with an election coming up he did not want anybody to know about them and that he had porked em while Melania was recovering from giving birth to his son Baron

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Dec 11, 2018 17:43:12   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Nickolai wrote:
In 2000 I asked my right wing cousin from fly over country why the Republicans did what they did to Bill Clinton--he said --to get back for what they dun to Reagan . I said but Reagan had it coming he sold arms to Iran and funneled the profits to the Contras in Nicaragua circumventing congress and that it constituted treason and Reagan knew it but did it anyway
That is a very simplistic and erroneous view of the Iran/Contra affair. And, throwing the charge of treason into the mix is sheer ignorance. Your right wing cousin is pretty damned stupid also.

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Dec 11, 2018 17:44:38   #
Nickolai
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
After two long years and 30 million dollars of our money spent to investigate allegations of Trump/Russian collusion, obstruction of justice, and the issuing of hundreds of indictments, threats and coercion, prosecutions, ruining men's lives, bankrupting them and their families, it all comes to rest on the stories from a porn star and a Playboy bunny recounting affairs which may or may not have occurred 10 years ago.

There is no way to measure with any degree of certainty the depth and breadth of liberal hypocrisy. They who celebrate immorality with every breath, who support, condone, advocate and even participate in sexual deviancy and perversions of every kind are now condemning a man for having sex with a couple of women outside his marriage. Oh, the shame of it. How utterly horrible.

Other than terrorists and mass killers, I don't think there are more despicable creatures on earth than liberal hypocrites.
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Having sex outside of marriage has nothing to do with it. It's the violation of campaigh finance --paying the women to keep their mouths shut
right before the election then lying about it and trying to cover it up. It constitutes two felonies and the President is an unindicted co- conspirator the same as Richard Nixon and that doesnt include trying to get a deal to build a tower in Moscow that continued untill June 2016 when Don Jr. Jared Kushner,and campaign Mgr. Paul Manafort met a delagation of Russians in Trump Tower

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Dec 11, 2018 17:55:27   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Must be a family trait.
Blade_Runner wrote:
That is a very simplistic and erroneous view of the Iran/Contra affair. And, throwing the charge of treason into the mix is sheer ignorance. Your right wing cousin is pretty damned stupid also.

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Dec 11, 2018 18:00:12   #
woodguru
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
How do you feel about BJ Clinton's sexual escapades, in the Oval Office no less?

Or, how about that compulsive womanizer, JFK, who holds the record for extramarital affairs? He was rightfully branded as a serial adulterer. Jack told any one who would listen, "If I don’t have sex every day, I get a headache."

Or, maybe you should read Lady Bird's account of Lyndon's "dark side." She said he was "moody, depressive, lecherous and lusty, a sexual gorilla who collected women, felt entitled to their services."
How do you feel about BJ Clinton's sexual escapade... (show quote)


Nobody holds the affairs against Trump, he's in trouble because he was too cheap to pay to keep them quiet himself, out of his own money rather than campaign or tax free foundation funds. He's in trouble because he lied about it and started lying about the lies.

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Dec 11, 2018 18:03:54   #
woodguru
 
Nickolai wrote:
Having sex outside of marriage has nothing to do with it. It's the violation of campaigh finance --paying the women to keep their mouths shut
right before the election then lying about it and trying to cover it up. It constitutes two felonies and the President is an unindicted co- conspirator the same as Richard Nixon and that doesnt include trying to get a deal to build a tower in Moscow that continued untill June 2016 when Don Jr. Jared Kushner,and campaign Mgr. Paul Manafort met a delagation of Russians in Trump Tower
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And now a Russian spy working with the NRA is cooperating...damn. They contributed 30 million to Trump's campaign, and that money looks like it came from Russia. Of course they say they didn't use "that" money toward Trump, but my guess is our little Rusky friend has some insights into Russian donors and what it was for.

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Dec 11, 2018 18:19:17   #
Carol Kelly
 
JFlorio wrote:
LOL. I was. He makes a good point. In my mind, Cohen is a very flawed witness.


It’s not possible for Cohen to speak the truth. What really gets me is Manafort. He’s facing life in prison and hasn’t done half as much damage as Hilary. He’s done some bad stuff, but illegal aliens who commit murder in this country don’t get life in prison. And solitary confinement. Please someone explain that.

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Dec 11, 2018 18:22:02   #
Bcon
 
woodguru wrote:
And now a Russian spy working with the NRA is cooperating...damn. They contributed 30 million to Trump's campaign, and that money looks like it came from Russia. Of course they say they didn't use "that" money toward Trump, but my guess is our little Rusky friend has some insights into Russian donors and what it was for.

For all we know, the turned Russian spy may very well be implicating Hillary . This is probably the most plausible, because she is the one who benefited monetarily, along with Bill.

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Dec 11, 2018 18:24:52   #
Lonewolf
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
After two long years and 30 million dollars of our money spent to investigate allegations of Trump/Russian collusion, obstruction of justice, and the issuing of hundreds of indictments, threats and coercion, prosecutions, ruining men's lives, bankrupting them and their families, it all comes to rest on the stories from a porn star and a Playboy bunny recounting affairs which may or may not have occurred 10 years ago.

There is no way to measure with any degree of certainty the depth and breadth of liberal hypocrisy. They who celebrate immorality with every breath, who support, condone, advocate and even participate in sexual deviancy and perversions of every kind are now condemning a man for having sex with a couple of women outside his marriage. Oh, the shame of it. How utterly horrible.

Other than terrorists and mass killers, I don't think there are more despicable creatures on earth than liberal hypocrites.
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Dec 11, 2018 18:33:12   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
It’s not possible for Cohen to speak the truth. What really gets me is Manafort. He’s facing life in prison and hasn’t done half as much damage as Hilary. He’s done some bad stuff, but illegal aliens who commit murder in this country don’t get life in prison. And solitary confinement. Please someone explain that.


He more scared of the Russian mob that Mueller.

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Dec 11, 2018 18:37:48   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
woodguru wrote:
Nobody holds the affairs against Trump, he's in trouble because he was too cheap to pay to keep them quiet himself, out of his own money rather than campaign or tax free foundation funds. He's in trouble because he lied about it and started lying about the lies.
These bimbos were not paid from campaign funds. Cohen paid Daniels out of his law firm account, and National Enquirer paid McDougall for her story. The federal judge hearing Daniels' lawsuit case in LA threw her suit out for violating a legal contract and ordered her to pay Trump's legal fees--$294,000, twice what she received for signing the NDA.

You've been living on lies for so long, it is impossible for you to see the truth.

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Dec 12, 2018 00:31:37   #
Nickolai
 
JFlorio wrote:
Prove it. He can say he paid them to spare his family. No proof this was campaign funds and Trump knew it. It was right before the election. So? Trump can claim coincidence. Prove him wrong. I personally believe the Democrats are about to make a huge mistake. Go ahead, impeach him. I believe he is very beatable in 2020. However; remove Trump and you will face one hell of a backlash since you have no viable centrist candidates






The $130,000 and $150,000 payments to the women are two of the largest illegal contributions to a campaign in history. The limit is $2,000 These are just two of multiple crimes Trump will be found to be guilty of there are multiple instances of obstruction even by tweet The guy seems to believe he can do any thing he wants to and he is some how above the law. He thinks he could shoot some guy in the face and it wouldn't make any difference.

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Dec 12, 2018 00:35:29   #
Nickolai
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
These bimbos were not paid from campaign funds. Cohen paid Daniels out of his law firm account, and National Enquirer paid McDougall for her story. The federal judge hearing Daniels' lawsuit case in LA threw her suit out for violating a legal contract and ordered her to pay Trump's legal fees--$294,000, twice what she received for signing the NDA.

You've been living on lies for so long, it is impossible for you to see the truth.





Daniels suit was for defamation when Trump called her a liar. Her Attorney Avanatti says it will not stand on appeal. We will see what happens

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