Geo

Trump: He was only a Reporter, right?
Isn't the money more important?

kemmer

All any dictator has to do is flash money in front of Trump and he gets a free pass for whatever he wants to do.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Is that where that conspiracy crackpot Jones hangs out? I've caught a few of his rants on youtube clips, but I've never been to infowars.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Osama bin Laden is dead. US Navy Senior Chief Robert O'Neill (SEAL Team 6) shot him. Chief Petty Officer Matt Bissonette followed O'Neill into the room and put two additional rounds into bin Laden after he was down. Under the pen name, Mark Owen, Bissonette wrote the controversial book, "No Easy Day", in which he documented the killing of Osama bin Laden.

O'Neill and Bissonette were also involved in the rescue of Captain Phillips of the Maersk Alabama hijacking. Bissonette was among the SEAL snipers who nailed the Maersk Alabama pirates, and O'Neill was with the QRT that recovered the badly wounded sole survivor of Operation Redwing, Navy SEAL Marcus Luttrell.

Four methods of identification confirmed the body was that of Osama bin Laden. The SEALs on site measured his body length--6'4" (193 cm) and it matched his known height. Two women from the compound, including one of bin Laden's wives, identified him.

His body was then flown to Bagram air base where photos were taken of his face. The photos were sent to CIA HQ in Langley where facial recognition analysis yielded a 90 to 95 percent likely match.

At Bagram, a military medic took bone marrow and saliva swabs from the body to use for DNA testing. One of these DNA samples was analyzed, and the information was sent electronically back to Washington, D.C., from Bagram. The remaining samples were sent to DOD and CIA labs in the U.S. The samples were compared to a comprehensive DNA profile derived from bin Laden's large extended family, including tissue and blood samples taken from his sister who had died of brain cancer. Based on that analysis, the DNA was unquestionably that of Osama bin Laden. The probability of a mistaken identity on the basis of this analysis is approximately one in 11.8 quadrillion.

Regarding the expeditious sea burial of his body. Islamic tradition holds that the highest honor given to a deceased Muslim is a swift burial, the dead must be buried before sunset on the day of death or before sunset on the following day if circumstances make same day burial impossible. Muslims believe that a swift burial is ecologically sound, and that refrigeration or preservation of the body, such as embalming, is a sacrilege. Although Muslims transport the deceased in a coffin and conduct services over it, burying in a coffin is not permitted in Muslim tradition unless there is a necessity for health or legal reasons, for instance, if the body is badly damaged, or if the country of residence has burial laws which prohibit burial without a coffin. Once at the burial site, the deceased is lifted out of the coffin and buried in a biodegradable shroud.

But the swift disposal of bin Laden's body at sea raised one hell of a brouhaha throughout the Muslim world and unleashed all kinds of legal controversies in the US, the UN and in international courts. Muslim clerics, imams and lawyers from all over the Islamic world stepped up with charges of blasphemy and illegalities. There were so many diverse opinions about what should have been done with the body that no one could make sense of any of it.

The fear among US and other non-Muslim legal authorities was that interment on land in a grave or tomb would create a martyr's shrine, even a holy site for radical Muslims. A professor of Islamic law at the University of Jordan stated burying at sea was permitted if there was nobody to receive the body and provide a Muslim burial. And, there's the rub.

Osama bin Laden was once a Saudi citizen, he was born in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia in 1957. However, his activism in condemning the Saudi regime became a serious problem and they exiled him in 1992. He set up camp in Sudan.

Before bin Laden's body was buried at sea, the US government offered his remains to Saudi Arabia. They refused to take him. In fact, no Muslim nation would accept his body for a funeral.

The burial at sea did conform to the Islamic tradition of a swift burial, services were conducted accordingly, and of course Obama simply could not let an opportunity to polish his own knob slip away. He played it to the hilt, covered himself with glory, with sweet butter and honey, da "Killer of bin Laden."

Naturally, without a doubt, given an event of this magnitude, of this scope, the conspiracy theorists all over the world could not let this slip by either. Osama is enjoying life in his villa in Argentina.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Good fiction. Almost ALL unverifiable. We knew he was there for long enough to have all this in place. There was little risk of failure as we could actually do it all anyway.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Yeah, those conspiracy theories are a force of nature. Often more powerful than the four fundamental forces that hold our universe together and keep it running, conspiracy theorists create an event horizon like that surrounding a black hole, and for anyone foolish enough to enter, there is no escape.

Funny thing though, seems Osama himself fell into a black hole. Throughout the 6 years and 7 months since the assault on his compound in Islamabad, not one person, no family member, not one of his 4 wives or one of his 19 children, not one of his 25 siblings, no uncle, aunt or cousin, no imam, cleric, or mosque congregation, no member of Al Qaeda, no Mujaheddin comrade, no associate, friend or fellow radical has heard a peep out of him.

Be impossible, I would think, that given the fundamental nature of humans to seek companionship, find a loved one, speak to a friend, he would have contacted someone. And in this high tech world of instant communication-- the internet, smart phones, iphones, social networks, satellites, you name it, it would have been easy for him to contact someone, and once more, human nature being what it is, word would have gotten out. By now, the word would be common knowledge. No more speculation or conjecture or manufactured conspiracy theories.

This is the same sort of bullshit the 9/11 truthers tried to pull claiming the hijackers are still alive somewhere. Yet no one has heard a peep out of any of them either.

As Ben Franklin said, "Three people can keep a secret only if two of them are dead."

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

All true!

Cadillac

Maybe Trump should just declare war on Russia. What do you think Lonewolf?

Lonewolf

We have been fighting guys in sandals that have no tanks, drones air power for going on 17 years.
So I wouldn't suggest we go to war with anyone who has any of those things!

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

The only weaponry the Mujaheddin in Afghanistan had was AK 47s, RPGs and shoulder fired Stinger missiles and look what they did to a trained army with infantry, armor, artillery, helicopters and attack jets. The Mujaheddin did not defeat the Soviets, but they fought them to a stalemate.

Cadillac

Where is the outrage over Kate. San Francisco?

kemmer

Anyone who flashes money in front of Trump has a free pass for whatever.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Hey, anyone who flashes money in front of me, I'll take it and I'll give them a pass for whatever. Nothing wrong with having some money, by God.

Lonewolf

My point exactly

kemmer

It's OK if you're for sale, but it's disappointing that Trump has made the US Saudi Arabia's bitch.