The Affordable Care Act (ACA)...Otherwise Known As Obamacare Is Killing The GOP (Page 2): You probably have private insurance. Mine is Medicare, had it like 40 years.

old marine Loc: America home of the brave

emarine wrote:

That is a good deal … I pay out 3300 a month for 3 but everything's covered...

You probably have private insurance.

Mine is Medicare, had it like 40 years.

buffalo Loc: Texas

Liberty Tree wrote:

They will promise to make it free or almost no cost for everyone even though you and I know that is impossible.

Tell me, then, how do all those plans like Humana offers, Medicare Advantage offers, etc that bombard the TV, offer their plans at little or no cost?

buffalo Loc: Texas

Fit2BTied wrote:

No, but it was highly subsidized by the folks forced to sign up and by expanding federal medical coverage.

And who did it wind up being a huge subsidy to? The private, for profit health INSURANCE corporations that extract $600 BILLION from the US health CARE system each year. Take them out of the equation and Medicare for ALL becomes affordable, NOT FREE, but AFFORDABLE. Those that will still get their health CARE for free are already getting it for free.

Fit2BTied Loc: Texas

buffalo wrote:

And who did it wind up being a huge subsidy to? The private, for profit health INSURANCE corporations that extract $600 BILLION from the US health CARE system each year. Take them out of the equation and Medicare for ALL becomes affordable, NOT FREE, but AFFORDABLE. Those that will still get their health CARE for free are already getting it for free.

Alexandria Ocasio Cortes. I'm honored that you'd respond to my comment! After all, like you've said before, "If money doesn't grow on trees, why do banks have branches?" Look buffalo, you have half a point here. The insurance companies have enormous power and always seem to make out no matter what we try but health insurance sold in a marketplace with competition for pricing is the only way for it to be affordable. Medical costs, like everything the government gets involved in are needlessly high. If you truly want the US to become a socialist country keep turning to the government for solutions because as we all know, the government is efficient, trustworthy, and can police itself when needed. Give me a break!

Yes, that was sarcasm!

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

Fit2BTied wrote:

It's pretty obvious that the ACA, Obamacare, whate... (show quote)

So what are your Reflubs going to do about it?

buffalo Loc: Texas

Fit2BTied wrote:

Alexandria Ocasio Cortes. I'm honored that you'd r... (show quote)

Why is there Medicare in the first place? Because the elderly and disabled generate the most in health CARE costs especially the last year of their lives and, therefore, are not profitable to the private, for profit health INSURANCE corporations, unless they are subsidized by the taxpayers. The poor that get it for free (paid for by the taxpayers) are going to get it for free no matter what because THEY CANNOT AFFORD THE RIDICULOUS PREMIUMS CHARGED BY THE PRIVATE, FOR PROFIT HEALTH INSURANCE CORPORATIONS! Not only do the private, for profit health INSURANCE corporation charge ridiculously high premiums and deductibles, they DENY as many claims a possible to enhance profits.

What is insurance but a risk pool? Take the private, for profit health INSURANCE corporations out of the health CARE system and Medicare for All would be the largest risk pool ever.

Morgan

buffalo wrote:

And who did it wind up being a huge subsidy to? The private, for profit health INSURANCE corporations that extract $600 BILLION from the US health CARE system each year. Take them out of the equation and Medicare for ALL becomes affordable, NOT FREE, but AFFORDABLE. Those that will still get their health CARE for free are already getting it for free.

Excellent points

old marine Loc: America home of the brave

buffalo wrote:

Tell me, then, how do all those plans like Humana offers, Medicare Advantage offers, etc that bombard the TV, offer their plans at little or no cost?

They are "Suppliments" you have to have an insurance plan first.

old marine Loc: America home of the brave

buffalo wrote:

And who did it wind up being a huge subsidy to? The private, for profit health INSURANCE corporations that extract $600 BILLION from the US health CARE system each year. Take them out of the equation and Medicare for ALL becomes affordable, NOT FREE, but AFFORDABLE. Those that will still get their health CARE for free are already getting it for free.

The only "Free" insurance plan is free to the Medicaid (welfare) but it is paid for from the taxpayer's money.

There is NOTHING in life free except "air" and the Democrats are trying to figure out how to tax that.

😁😎

buffalo Loc: Texas

old marine wrote:

They are "Suppliments" you have to have an insurance plan first.

They are "SUBSIDIES" to the private, for profit health INSURANCE corporations.

old marine Loc: America home of the brave

Bad Bob wrote:

So what are your Reflubs going to do about it?

That is a Democrat baby, let them take care of it.

old marine Loc: America home of the brave

buffalo wrote:

Why is there Medicare in the first place? Because ... (show quote)

You are confusing Medicare which is paid for monthly by the deductions from the Social Security checks.

Medicaid is a FREE insurance for the poor paid for from the taxpayers money.

They are not the same.

Morgan

Fit2BTied wrote:

Alexandria Ocasio Cortes. I'm honored that you'd r... (show quote)

I see, somewhere along the line you've come to believe that private for-profit business for healthcare would somehow be cheaper and we'd all have great coverage, we tried that it is a complete failure at the cost to the people in every way. We got scammed taken advantage of, some even raped. Why do you think people lost their plans when a standard was put in place for the first time. You don't see healthcare for profit as a conflict of interest? How is that possible?

If we were to take away insurance cost and put it to universal healthcare it would pay for itself, this would probably include getting a grip on, pharmaceuticals, hospitals, and doctors over pricing. There's always the option for the elite who can afford private care, they can afford it. There's no reason this couldn't work like our education system to have public and private but I don't see that as part of the discussion, not sure why?

buffalo Loc: Texas

old marine wrote:

You are confusing Medicare which is paid for monthly by the deductions from the Social Security checks.

Medicaid is a FREE insurance for the poor paid for from the taxpayers money.

They are not the same.

Medicare is also paid for by taxes on wages.

I understand Medicare and Medicaid are not the same thing, but both are paid for with TAX money.

Morgan

old marine wrote:

The only "Free" insurance plan is free to the Medicaid (welfare) but it is paid for from the taxpayer's money.

There is NOTHING in life free except "air" and the Democrats are trying to figure out how to tax that.

😁😎

Oh, there are many things for free, exchanging a smile, a handshake, a compliment, a good joke, a nice walk, a meaningful conversation, laughter, and being in the beautiful day.

The best part is, with the exchange you're both receiving the benefits.

Go out and enjoy the day! and try not to be too cynical