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Mar 15, 2014 12:23:31   #
Bigmac495 Loc: Indiana
 
Patty wrote:
I don't even know what a RWE is. :lol: I am an American who is sick of the lies from both sides of the table.
I am a studier of Paul Craig Roberts books who jonnie seems to think is un-American for some reason. I have to assume that he is uninformed as Dr. Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury and an adviser to the DOD when asked to testify before congress and the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He was also associate editor of the Wall Street Journal who's career was sacrifice because he refused to quit publishing the truth by many different journalists. His publication in many journals, publications and Published books are to vast to name here. He has served this country since the 70's and blind flag waving is not in my nature.
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I don't even know what a RWE is. :lol: I am an Am... (show quote)


Patty:
RWE = Right Wing Extremist . Or extremely conservative .
I would rather be conservative than Liberal and give the whole house away. Or in the case of politics money and rights!

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Mar 15, 2014 12:30:52   #
Patty
 
Bigmac495 wrote:
Patty:
RWE = Right Wing Extremist . Or extremely conservative .
I would rather be conservative than Liberal and give the whole house away. Or in the case of politics money and rights!


Thanks Mac. I really didn't know. :lol:

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Mar 15, 2014 12:34:55   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
Patty wrote:
Thanks Mac. I really didn't know. :lol:


Now you know what we'uns are Patty. It took me a few posts to decipher it myself. :lol:

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Mar 15, 2014 12:56:04   #
Patty
 
Old_Gringo wrote:
Now you know what we'uns are Patty. It took me a few posts to decipher it myself. :lol:


How did I ever live my 52 years without jonnie to tell me who I am. "Praise the Lord and pass the jug" ;)

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Mar 15, 2014 13:00:04   #
vernon
 
it looks like he is a gossip and mudslinger.i have read his talks with patty but he was very insulting
Bigmac495 wrote:
Good for you! I don't know what jon's problem is , but I suspect he is at times on some strong pain killers because some of his postings I agree with!
I don't see ant any time you have posted anything that would discourage Conservatives. I agree with you, I am sick of all the lies also and all the pay off's going on in Washington. Oh! I'm sorry it's campaign donations!

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Mar 15, 2014 13:08:05   #
Patty
 
vernon wrote:
it looks like he is a gossip and mudslinger.i have read his talks with patty but he was very insulting


Usually when I encounter that kind of unprovoked hatred I take it as a sign that the truth is breaking through and causing serious discomfort to their ingrained prejudices. He could go either way and I don't care which. I have to control my own intolerance for stupidity though and I don't always do well at that. :-(

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Mar 16, 2014 11:49:09   #
Bigmac495 Loc: Indiana
 
Patty wrote:
Usually when I encounter that kind of unprovoked hatred I take it as a sign that the truth is breaking through and causing serious discomfort to their ingrained prejudices. He could go either way and I don't care which. I have to control my own intolerance for stupidity though and I don't always do well at that. :-(


You are exactly right, they don't and refuse to acknowledge the truth, and don't have a answer for it so they just attacking us trying to do a end around and hope to keep us busy defending ourselves. They can't answer a question with a yes or no. And they are very good at pushing our defense button, so I don't blame anyone for fighting back, in fact maybe we should overwhelm them with lots of readers fighting back maybe they will get tired and shut up.

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Mar 16, 2014 11:51:53   #
Patty
 
Bigmac495 wrote:
You are exactly right, they don't and refuse to acknowledge the truth, and don't have a answer for it so they just attacking us trying to do a end around and hope to keep us busy defending ourselves. They can't answer a question with a yes or no. And they are very good at pushing our defense button, so I don't blame anyone for fighting back, in fact maybe we should overwhelm them with lots of readers fighting back maybe they will get tired and shut up.


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Mar 16, 2014 12:02:47   #
Skyhook
 
Patty, this Paul Craig Roberts? You are studying his work?

Granted, it is important to know such stuff exists, but why are you examining that man's thinking and proselytizing?

http://www.lewrockwell.com/author/paul-craig-roberts/

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Mar 16, 2014 12:10:33   #
Patty
 
Skyhook wrote:
Patty, this Paul Craig Roberts? You are studying his work?

Granted, it is important to know such stuff exists, but why are you examining that man's thinking and proselytizing?

http://www.lewrockwell.com/author/paul-craig-roberts/


He has been discredited by many and lost his job as Assistant Editor at Wall Street Journal when he refused to stifle conservative authors. There has never been a question that he was discredited for his honesty all one needs to do at look at his normal financial status in comparison to the very wealthy other former Assistant Secretaries of the Treasury. They cant take this away from him though.
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Career

Paul Craig Roberts has had careers in scholarship and academia, journalism, public service, and business. He is chairman of The Institute for Political Economy.



Scholarship & Academia



Dr. Roberts has held academic appointments at Virginia Tech, Tulane University, University of New Mexico, Stanford University where he was Senior Research Fellow in the Hoover Institution, George Mason University where he had a joint appointment as professor of economics and professor of business administration, and Georgetown University where he held the William E. Simon Chair in Political Economy in the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

He has contributed chapters to numerous books and has published many articles in journals of scholarship, including the Journal of Political Economy, Oxford Economic Papers, Journal of Law and Economics, Studies in Banking and Finance, Journal of Monetary Economics, Public Choice, Classica et Mediaevalia, Ethics, Slavic Review, Soviet Studies, Cardoza Law Review, Rivista de Political Economica, and Zeitschrift fur Wirtschafspolitik. He has entries in the McGraw-Hill Encyclopedia of Economics and the New Palgrave Dictionary of Money and Finance.

He has contributed to Commentary, The Public Interest, The National Interest, Policy Review, National Review, The Independent Review, Harper’s, the New York Times, The Washington Post, The Los Angeles Times, Fortune, London Times, The Financial Times, TLS, The Spectator, The International Economy, Il Sole 24 Ore, Le Figaro, Liberation, and the Nihon Keizai Shimbun. He has testified before committees of Congress on 30 occasions.


Journalism



Dr. Roberts was associate editor and columnist for The Wall Street Journal and columnist for Business Week and the Scripps Howard News Service. He was a nationally syndicated columnist for Creators Syndicate in Los Angeles. In 1992 he received the Warren Brookes Award for Excellence in Journalism. In 1993 the Forbes Media Guide ranked him as one of the top seven journalists in the United States.


Public Service

President Reagan appointed Dr. Roberts Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy and he was confirmed in office by the U.S. Senate. From 1975 to 1978, Dr. Roberts served on the congressional staff where he drafted the Kemp-Roth bill and played a leading role in developing bipartisan support for a supply-side economic policy. After leaving the Treasury, he served as a consultant to the U.S. Department of Defense and the U.S. Department of Commerce.


Letter from Ronald Reagan to Dr. Paul Craig Roberts



Business

Dr. Roberts was president of the Inlet Beach Water Company, president of Economic & Communication Services, advisor to J.P. Morgan asset management, advisor to Tiedemann-Goodnow, advisor to Lazard Freres Asset Management, and a member of corporate and financial boards.

Books



Dr. Roberts’ latest book is How the Economy Was Lost: The War of the Worlds, published in January, 2010 by CounterPunch/AK Press. The Tyranny of Good Intentions, co-authored with IPE Fellow Lawrence Stratton, was published by Prima Publishing in May 2000. A new edition, now in a second printing, was published by Crown Publishing Group, a division of Randon House, in 2008. Chile: Two Visions—The Allende-Pinochet Era, co-authored with IPE Fellow Karen Araujo, was published in Spanish by Universidad Nacional Andres Bello in Santiago, Chile, in November 2000. The Capitalist Revolution in Latin America, co-authored with IPE Fellow Karen LaFollette Araujo, was published by Oxford University Press in 1997. A Spanish language edition was published by Oxford in 1999. The New Color Line: How Quotas and Privilege Destroy Democracy, co-authored with IPE Fellow Lawrence Stratton, was published by Regnery in 1995. A paperback edition was published in 1997. Meltdown: Inside the Soviet Economy, co-authored with IPE Fellow Karen LaFollette, was published by the Cato Institute in 1990. Harvard University Press published Roberts’ book, The Supply-Side Revolution, in 1984. Widely reviewed and favorably received, the book was praised by Forbes as “a timely masterpiece that will have real impact on economic thinking in the years ahead.” Dr. Roberts is the author of Alienation and the Soviet Economy, published in 1971 and republished in 1990. He is coauthor with Matthew Stephenson of Marx’s Theory of Exchange, Alienation and Crisis, published in 1973 by the Hoover Institution Press and republished in 1983 by Praeger Publishing. A Spanish language edition was published in 1974 in Madrid by Union Editorial.."

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Mar 16, 2014 12:17:00   #
Skyhook
 
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He has been discredited by many and lost his job as Assistant Editor at Wall Street Journal when he refused to stifle conservative authors. There has never been a question that he was discredited for his honesty all one needs to do at look at his normal financial status in comparison to the very wealthy other former Assistant Secretaries of the Treasury. They cant take this away from him though.
"

Very interesting, thanks.
EDITED TO ADD.. Looking over these 'comments' about one of his articles surely presents a rare glimpse into his following.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/03/10/354123/putin-speaks/

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Mar 16, 2014 12:18:26   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Patty wrote:
He has been discredited by many and lost his job as Assistant Editor at Wall Street Journal when he refused to stifle conservative authors. There has never been a question that he was discredited for his honesty all one needs to do at look at his normal financial status in comparison to the very wealthy other former Assistant Secretaries of the Treasury. They cant take this away from him though.
"

Career

Paul Craig Roberts has had careers in scholarship and academia, journalism, public service, and business. He is chairman of The Institute for Political Economy.



Scholarship & Academia



Dr. Roberts has held academic appointments at Virginia Tech, Tulane University, University of New Mexico, Stanford University where he was Senior Research Fellow in the Hoover Institution, George Mason University where he had a joint appointment as professor of economics and professor of business administration, and Georgetown University where he held the William E. Simon Chair in Political Economy in the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

He has contributed chapters to numerous books and has published many articles in journals of scholarship, including the Journal of Political Economy, Oxford Economic Papers, Journal of Law and Economics, Studies in Banking and Finance, Journal of Monetary Economics, Public Choice, Classica et Mediaevalia, Ethics, Slavic Review, Soviet Studies, Cardoza Law Review, Rivista de Political Economica, and Zeitschrift fur Wirtschafspolitik. He has entries in the McGraw-Hill Encyclopedia of Economics and the New Palgrave Dictionary of Money and Finance.

He has contributed to Commentary, The Public Interest, The National Interest, Policy Review, National Review, The Independent Review, Harper’s, the New York Times, The Washington Post, The Los Angeles Times, Fortune, London Times, The Financial Times, TLS, The Spectator, The International Economy, Il Sole 24 Ore, Le Figaro, Liberation, and the Nihon Keizai Shimbun. He has testified before committees of Congress on 30 occasions.


Journalism



Dr. Roberts was associate editor and columnist for The Wall Street Journal and columnist for Business Week and the Scripps Howard News Service. He was a nationally syndicated columnist for Creators Syndicate in Los Angeles. In 1992 he received the Warren Brookes Award for Excellence in Journalism. In 1993 the Forbes Media Guide ranked him as one of the top seven journalists in the United States.


Public Service

President Reagan appointed Dr. Roberts Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy and he was confirmed in office by the U.S. Senate. From 1975 to 1978, Dr. Roberts served on the congressional staff where he drafted the Kemp-Roth bill and played a leading role in developing bipartisan support for a supply-side economic policy. After leaving the Treasury, he served as a consultant to the U.S. Department of Defense and the U.S. Department of Commerce.


Letter from Ronald Reagan to Dr. Paul Craig Roberts



Business

Dr. Roberts was president of the Inlet Beach Water Company, president of Economic & Communication Services, advisor to J.P. Morgan asset management, advisor to Tiedemann-Goodnow, advisor to Lazard Freres Asset Management, and a member of corporate and financial boards.

Books



Dr. Roberts’ latest book is How the Economy Was Lost: The War of the Worlds, published in January, 2010 by CounterPunch/AK Press. The Tyranny of Good Intentions, co-authored with IPE Fellow Lawrence Stratton, was published by Prima Publishing in May 2000. A new edition, now in a second printing, was published by Crown Publishing Group, a division of Randon House, in 2008. Chile: Two Visions—The Allende-Pinochet Era, co-authored with IPE Fellow Karen Araujo, was published in Spanish by Universidad Nacional Andres Bello in Santiago, Chile, in November 2000. The Capitalist Revolution in Latin America, co-authored with IPE Fellow Karen LaFollette Araujo, was published by Oxford University Press in 1997. A Spanish language edition was published by Oxford in 1999. The New Color Line: How Quotas and Privilege Destroy Democracy, co-authored with IPE Fellow Lawrence Stratton, was published by Regnery in 1995. A paperback edition was published in 1997. Meltdown: Inside the Soviet Economy, co-authored with IPE Fellow Karen LaFollette, was published by the Cato Institute in 1990. Harvard University Press published Roberts’ book, The Supply-Side Revolution, in 1984. Widely reviewed and favorably received, the book was praised by Forbes as “a timely masterpiece that will have real impact on economic thinking in the years ahead.” Dr. Roberts is the author of Alienation and the Soviet Economy, published in 1971 and republished in 1990. He is coauthor with Matthew Stephenson of Marx’s Theory of Exchange, Alienation and Crisis, published in 1973 by the Hoover Institution Press and republished in 1983 by Praeger Publishing. A Spanish language edition was published in 1974 in Madrid by Union Editorial.."
He has been discredited by many and lost his job a... (show quote)


Thanks Patty. He sounds like someone whose views probably have validity. I will look into him. always glad to have new sources to check out, even if, after checking them out, I find they are less than reliable as valid sources. This one sounds worthwhile.

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Mar 16, 2014 12:43:56   #
Bigmac495 Loc: Indiana
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Thanks Patty. He sounds like someone whose views probably have validity. I will look into him. always glad to have new sources to check out, even if, after checking them out, I find they are less than reliable as valid sources. This one sounds worthwhile.

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Mar 16, 2014 12:48:15   #
Patty
 
:thumbup:
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/

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Mar 16, 2014 12:56:21   #
Patty
 
Skyhook wrote:
"
He has been discredited by many and lost his job as Assistant Editor at Wall Street Journal when he refused to stifle conservative authors. There has never been a question that he was discredited for his honesty all one needs to do at look at his normal financial status in comparison to the very wealthy other former Assistant Secretaries of the Treasury. They cant take this away from him though.
"

Very interesting, thanks.
EDITED TO ADD.. Looking over these 'comments' about one of his articles surely presents a rare glimpse into his following.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/03/10/354123/putin-speaks/
" br He has been discredited by many and lost... (show quote)


Putin tried to warn the G8 last June and they didn't listen. He helped President Obama save face with his redline crap that had him in a corner where even his own party wouldn't back him up. They didn't listen to him.
“You want President Bashshar al-Asad to step down? Look at the leaders you’ve made in the Middle East in the course of what you have dubbed the “Arab Spring.” Now the peoples of the region are rejecting those leaders. The revolution against Muhammad Mursi in Egypt continues and anybody who knows the character of Egyptian society is aware of the fact that it is a deeply rooted secular society of varied cultures and civilizations with a history of advanced political activity. It will never accept attempts to impose things upon it by force.
Putin went on: “You have spread anarchy in Libya after Mu‘ammar al-Qadhdhafi. Nobody can put together an authority capable of working to rebuild the state there. Yemen after the departure of ‘Ali ‘Abdallah Salih lacks stability in government and there is no peace in the streets. Military and security unrest continues to prevail in all the regions of the country. As to the Persian Gulf, the whole area from Bahrain to the rest of the states there is sitting atop a volcano,” Putin said.
“You want Russia to abandon Asad and his regime and go along with an Opposition whose leaders don’t know anything except issuing fatwas declaring people heretics, and whose members – who come from a bunch of different countries and have multiple orientations – don’t know anything except how to slaughter people and eat human flesh. You use double standards and approach the crisis in Syria using summer and winter styles under one roof. You lie to your own peoples so as to further your interests. This is none of our business. But it is impermissible for you to lie to us and to the countries and peoples of the world, because the international stage is no longer yours alone. Your ability to monopolize it the way you did two decades ago is now gone for good.”

Putin continued: “In Syria all of you are standing on the side of the forces that for the last 10 years you have claimed to be fighting against under the rubric of ‘fighting terror.’ Now today you are with them, helping them to take power across the region. You declare that you’re going to arm them and work to facilitate sending their fighters to Syria to bring it down, weaken it, and break it up.” Putin asked, “In God’s name what kind of democracy are you talking about? You want a democratic regime in Syria to take the place of the Asad regime, but are Turkey and the countries you’re allied with in the region blessed with democracy?”

Putin addressed US President Obama specifically, saying: “Your country sent its army to Afghanistan in the year 2001 on the excuse that you are fighting the Taliban and the al-Qa‘idah Organization and other fundamentalist terrorists whom your government accused of carrying out the 11 September attacks on New York and Washington. And here you are today making an alliance with them in Syria. And you and your allies are declaring your desire to send them weapons. And here you have Qatar in which you [the US] have your biggest base in the region and in the territory of that country the Taliban are opening a representative office.”

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