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Mar 14, 2014 20:22:39   #
cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob
 
And I'm so glad he got you in I thought that a parasite might be the culprit also. This kind of researching is the very reason I and others were so persistent. Now just one of the wall question? Do you know anything about Israel gun laws? Are they allowed personal weapons? Or are they like England and verbotten? I'm discussing a topic on another blog and I just realized I'm not sure what the rules regarding personal weapons are? Do you? Just off the top of your head. No big searches please .....
ginnyt wrote:
Yes, thank you. I saw him today. He took blood thinking that I may have a parasite, he took samples of my spinal fluid, an EKG, and a few other things that is not polite to discuss in public. He put me on vitamins and told me that I should rest. Test results will be back next week, so we will know for sure. In the meantime he gave me a shot of something to kill any parasite, he says that I should feel better in about 12 hours. Thank you again for being concerned.
I went to bed, this post popped into my head. I took a shower, went back to bed, closed my eyes and this post popped up again. So, either stay in bed or do something to ease the mind. I like research, so I had a real great time digging through our files. Mike, my uncle, keeps copies of all important news. Then digging on the WH pages. It was fun!
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Mar 14, 2014 21:08:34   #
Michigan Loc: Michigan
 
ginnyt wrote:
I know that you are old, so perhaps your nurse can read you a book. “Day of Deceit: The Truth about FDR and Pearl Harbor” by Robert B. Stinnett, there can be no denying the awful truth that FDR not only knew the Japanese were going to attack, but official documents prove FDR wanted them to strike America first.

Yes, President George Bush could have excused himself and gone on to take care of the crisis. Much like Obama could have attended to Benghazi instead of going campaigning.

We can play this stupid game of your pot is blacker than my skillet all day. But, you are going to have to play with your imbecilic moron buddies because I do not wish to be rude and condescending.
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I wish there where more gennyts in the world! You are a rare breed and brilliant! Keep being true, hope it's contagious!!!!

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Mar 14, 2014 22:13:15   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Few carry guns, the laws are strict but that is not the reason. The primary reason that only 7 in ever 100 carry guns is religion. Now then about the law itself. If you are military, a veteran of the military or police you can carry concealed weapons. Average citizens can buy guns but they have to pass a gun course which teaches about handling, maintenance and storage of weapons and pass a shooter's course (being able to hit your target), once you obtain these certificates then you may buy guns.

cant beleve wrote:
And I'm so glad he got you in I thought that a parasite might be the culprit also. This kind of researching is the very reason I and others were so persistent. Now just one of the wall question? Do you know anything about Israel gun laws? Are they allowed personal weapons? Or are they like England and verbotten? I'm discussing a topic on another blog and I just realized I'm not sure what the rules regarding personal weapons are? Do you? Just off the top of your head. No big searches please .....
b And I'm so glad he got you in /b I thought th... (show quote)

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Mar 14, 2014 22:16:32   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Michigan wrote:
I wish there where more gennyts in the world! You are a rare breed and brilliant! Keep being true, hope it's contagious!!!!

How kind of you. I do not know you, have not really had any interaction or responded to your comments or posts. I do not have anything that is contagious, while traveling in Africa I ate with our guides. I am a vegan, I may have gotten the bug from the fruit. By the way, the evenings spent listening to them, their music, their traditions, and their views about politics, was most rewarding.

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Mar 14, 2014 22:16:33   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
duplicate

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Mar 14, 2014 23:37:51   #
cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob
 
ginnyt wrote:
How kind of you. I do not know you, have not really had any interaction or responded to your comments or posts. I do not have anything that is contagious, while traveling in Africa I ate with our guides. I am a vegan, I may have gotten the bug from the fruit. By the way, the evenings spent listening to them, their music, their traditions, and their views about politics, was most rewarding.


Another (friend) of mine whom I've never talked to about you. I told you your well respected. I just found the most interesting group called JPFO.[b]Jews For the Preservation for Firearms Ownership. That are Jewish Americans led by a rabbi that because of the Holocaust believe its anti Jewish to not defend oneself. And they back it up with the Torah to boot.
They have a few YouTube videos also.
I think you might find their views compatible with Jewish teachings. Any way keep on keeping on. We all have a soft spot for you. Shalom

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Mar 14, 2014 23:57:56   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Thank you so very much. I had not heard of this group, but I can say that I am not surprised. I will need to do some research and ask Mike if he knows about them. For me, I support our right to have guns. I am a fairly good shot and I have a few that no one will make me either register or give up. My late husband had quite a collection. I gave some to our son who still likes target shooting. And a few went to some of his family. (He too came from a very large family, he had 13 brothers and sisters), anyway he and I were in agreement.

You made my day. Shalom!

[quote=cant beleve]Another (friend) of mine whom I've never talked to about you. I told you your well respected. I just found the most interesting group called JPFO.[b]Jews For the Preservation for Firearms Ownership. That are Jewish Americans led by a rabbi that because of the Holocaust believe its anti Jewish to not defend oneself. And they back it up with the Torah to boot.
They have a few YouTube videos also.
I think you might find their views compatible with Jewish teachings. Any way keep on keeping on. We all have a soft spot for you. Shalom[/quote]



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Mar 16, 2014 10:01:00   #
EconomistDon
 
ginnyt wrote:
Here is the timeline. Sources are located at the end of the post. Please note the highlighted area:

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About 10:00 p.m.: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton issues a statement confirming that one State official was killed in an attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi. Her statement, which MSNBC posted at 10:32 p.m., made reference to the anti-Muslim video.

Sept.12: Obama Labels Attack ‘Act of Terror,’ Not ‘Terrorism’

Clinton: Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior, along with the protest that took place at our Embassy in Cairo yesterday, as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet. America’s commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation. But let me be clear — there is no justification for this, none.

Sept. 12: Obama delivers a morning speech in the Rose Garden to address the deaths of U.S. diplomats in Libya. He said, “No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for.” He also makes reference to the anti-Muslim video when he says: “Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence. None.” He uses the term “act of terror” later that night when talking about the attack at a campaign event in Las Vegas.

Sept. 25: Obama speaks at the United Nations. He praises Chris Stevens as “the best of America” and condemns the anti-Muslim video as “crude and disgusting.” He does not describe the Benghazi attack as a terrorist attack.
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Thank you ginnyt. This was an awesome account of the Benghazi fiasco. And it confirms, in my mind, the extent to which Obama was the driving force in the misinformation. Although talk of the anti-Muslim video appears to have come first from Clinton on the morning after the incident, I believe that she was following the lead of her boss, Mr. Obama.

There are several reasons why Obama would want to lean on the video story. First, because of Obama's Muslim childhood, he very likely does feel that the anti-Muslim video was "crude and disgusting" as he said on Sept. 25. He went on saying it many times because he was genuinely upset by the video. But it also gave Obama an excuse to shift the blame away from himself over mistakes in Benghazi. I feel that those mistakes were also related to Obama being soft on Muslims.

So reasons two, three, and whatever -- the Obama administration shot down two requests from the Embassy for increased security during the weeks and months prior to the attack. Obama did not want to give the "wrong message" to Muslims. Then during the attack, some who could have provided help were told to "stand down". These were terrible mistakes that contributed to the very bad outcome, and the mistakes started at the White House. Obama needed the world to believe that the disaster was the result of a demonstration the spun out of control, not a planned terrorist attack that could have been stopped with proper management from the top.

The timeline shows that the staff around Obama were following his lead, and even had their talking points revised to better reflect his wishes. But as time wore on, his staff slowly, one by one, conceded to the truth about the attack. Obama appears to have been the last to finally give in, and give up on the video demonstration story.

Finally, many months later, Clinton took the blame for the whole misinformation problem. She was thrown under the bus to save Obama's butt; and she accepted it graciously.

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Mar 16, 2014 10:44:43   #
cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob
 
There are two branches of Islam -Sunni and Shiite .Shiite are the majority while Sunnis are the minority. Lybia was a sunni stronghold and obummers family are sunni also. It's quite obvious why he didn't want to nip this in the bud when he had the chance to. .
EconomistDon wrote:
Thank you ginnyt. This was an awesome account of the Benghazi fiasco. And it confirms, in my mind, the extent to which Obama was the driving force in the misinformation. Although talk of the anti-Muslim video appears to have come first from Clinton on the morning after the incident, I believe that she was following the lead of her boss, Mr. Obama.

There are several reasons why Obama would want to lean on the video story. First, because of Obama's Muslim childhood, he very likely does feel that the anti-Muslim video was "crude and disgusting" as he said on Sept. 25. He went on saying it many times because he was genuinely upset by the video. But it also gave Obama an excuse to shift the blame away from himself over mistakes in Benghazi. I feel that those mistakes were also related to Obama being soft on Muslims.

So reasons two, three, and whatever -- the Obama administration shot down two requests from the Embassy for increased security during the weeks and months prior to the attack. Obama did not want to give the "wrong message" to Muslims. Then during the attack, some who could have provided help were told to "stand down". These were terrible mistakes that contributed to the very bad outcome, and the mistakes started at the White House. Obama needed the world to believe that the disaster was the result of a demonstration the spun out of control, not a planned terrorist attack that could have been stopped with proper management from the top.

The timeline shows that the staff around Obama were following his lead, and even had their talking points revised to better reflect his wishes. But as time wore on, his staff slowly, one by one, conceded to the truth about the attack. Obama appears to have been the last to finally give in, and give up on the video demonstration story.

Finally, many months later, Clinton took the blame for the whole misinformation problem. She was thrown under the bus to save Obama's butt; and she accepted it graciously.
Thank you ginnyt. This was an awesome account of ... (show quote)

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Mar 16, 2014 16:32:28   #
rodulfo-tardo
 
Cannot overlook the progression of military purged from their posts, some for taking the appropriate steps to respond to the attack, from the C.I.A. Director, to the Commander of AFRICOM Gen. Carter Ham, Rear Admiral Gauette, those two Commanders had put the response team in play, the air support and transportation were not an issue, except the White House orders to "abort" was the point at which this 'resident in chief ' appears to collaborate with the enemy, what more proof do you need? knowing his policy to arm Al'Qaeda, against Egypt, Syria and Libya, and his suspicious connection to every region currently under terrorist attack. Ignoring the close relations Husseyn-Obama maintains with Qatar and Turkey, would be a suicidal decision given the evidence of collaboration they have.
As of now, the purged military numbers are in the thousands, for both the Officer class and the rank and file, these purges are the result of performance of duty, and moral beliefs, unlike the normal reasons, "dereliction of duty and moral corruption" it is the ultimate insult to the United States, not only the military but the population of this country, the Constitutional violations and this 'extralegal' state, the Fascist state of this Husseyn-Obama caliphate.

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Mar 16, 2014 17:17:53   #
Retired669
 
rodulfo-tardo wrote:
Cannot overlook the progression of military purged from their posts, some for taking the appropriate steps to respond to the attack, from the C.I.A. Director, to the Commander of AFRICOM Gen. Carter Ham, Rear Admiral Gauette, those two Commanders had put the response team in play, the air support and transportation were not an issue, except the White House orders to "abort" was the point at which this 'resident in chief ' appears to collaborate with the enemy, what more proof do you need? knowing his policy to arm Al'Qaeda, against Egypt, Syria and Libya, and his suspicious connection to every region currently under terrorist attack. Ignoring the close relations Husseyn-Obama maintains with Qatar and Turkey, would be a suicidal decision given the evidence of collaboration they have.
As of now, the purged military numbers are in the thousands, for both the Officer class and the rank and file, these purges are the result of performance of duty, and moral beliefs, unlike the normal reasons, "dereliction of duty and moral corruption" it is the ultimate insult to the United States, not only the military but the population of this country, the Constitutional violations and this 'extralegal' state, the Fascist state of this Husseyn-Obama caliphate.
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Mar 16, 2014 21:41:09   #
cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob
 
rodulfo-tardo wrote:
Cannot overlook the progression of military purged from their posts, some for taking the appropriate steps to respond to the attack, from the C.I.A. Director, to the Commander of AFRICOM Gen. Carter Ham, Rear Admiral Gauette, those two Commanders had put the response team in play, the air support and transportation were not an issue, except the White House orders to "abort" was the point at which this 'resident in chief ' appears to collaborate with the enemy, what more proof do you need? knowing his policy to arm Al'Qaeda, against Egypt, Syria and Libya, and his suspicious connection to every region currently under terrorist attack. Ignoring the close relations Husseyn-Obama maintains with Qatar and Turkey, would be a suicidal decision given the evidence of collaboration they have.
As of now, the purged military numbers are in the thousands, for both the Officer class and the rank and file, these purges are the result of performance of duty, and moral beliefs, unlike the normal reasons, "dereliction of duty and moral corruption" it is the ultimate insult to the United States, not only the military but the population of this country, the Constitutional violations and this 'extralegal' state, the Fascist state of this Husseyn-Obama caliphate.
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