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Mar 12, 2014 10:45:43   #
Bigmac495 Loc: Indiana
 
jonhatfield wrote:
Big Mac, you may be interested to know about Patty's viewpoint on Iraq: [quote: "the unprovoked invasion of Serbia, Kosovo, Afghanistan, IRAQ, Packistan, Yemen, Somalia, Honduras, Venezuela, Ecuador, Bolivia." quote] p.4 OPP thread titled "US taxpayers to give Ukraine 15 billion."

You need to be aware there is a group of RWEs on OPP who are presenting Putin's propaganda line about the U.S. as aggressor and hegemon. Check out the following OPP threads where putt, putt, Putin Russian propaganda line is presented as if it were standard conservative thinking:

"US revealed as alleged mastermind behind Ukraine unrest"
"How to dismantle the American empire"
"Ukraine" quote of Craig Paul Roberts take on Ukraine
"China: the voice of reason"

Also check out Patty's posted subjects the past few days since she joined, inluding a reposting of the China subject.

The cited postings tend to discredit conservative thinking and OPP conservatives would do well to guard against this type infiltration of Putin trolls. Ironic that on a subject favorable to McCarthyism, I'm taking on the role of McCarthy accusing these posters as Putin stooges. ha.
Big Mac, you may be interested to know about Patty... (show quote)


Well I haven't made up my mind yet. I don't see Patty as Left, Progressive or liberal yet from any of her postings!!

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Mar 12, 2014 11:04:09   #
Patty
 
Bigmac495 wrote:
Well I haven't made up my mind yet. I don't see Patty as Left, Progressive or liberal yet from any of her postings!!


I don't even know what a RWE is. :lol: I am an American who is sick of the lies from both sides of the table.
I am a studier of Paul Craig Roberts books who jonnie seems to think is un-American for some reason. I have to assume that he is uninformed as Dr. Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury and an adviser to the DOD when asked to testify before congress and the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He was also associate editor of the Wall Street Journal who's career was sacrifice because he refused to quit publishing the truth by many different journalists. His publication in many journals, publications and Published books are to vast to name here. He has served this country since the 70's and blind flag waving is not in my nature.
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Mar 12, 2014 11:29:24   #
Bigmac495 Loc: Indiana
 
Patty wrote:
I don't even know what a RWE is. :lol: I am an American who is sick of the lies from both sides of the table.
I am a studier of Paul Craig Roberts books who jonnie seems to think is un-American for some reason. I have to assume that he is uninformed as Dr. Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury and an adviser to the DOD when asked to testify before congress and the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He was also associate editor of the Wall Street Journal who's career was sacrifice because he refused to quit publishing the truth by many different journalists. His publication in many journals, publications and Published books are to vast to name here. He has served this country since the 70's and blind flag waving is not in my nature.
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I don't even know what a RWE is. :lol: I am an Am... (show quote)


Good for you! I don't know what jon's problem is , but I suspect he is at times on some strong pain killers because some of his postings I agree with!
I don't see ant any time you have posted anything that would discourage Conservatives. I agree with you, I am sick of all the lies also and all the pay off's going on in Washington. Oh! I'm sorry it's campaign donations!

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Mar 12, 2014 12:02:54   #
Bigmac495 Loc: Indiana
 
jonhatfield wrote:
Important but not more important than freedom. Do you see it as a choice between these two? Actually I'm more conservative than any right wingy radical on OPP, including you, Mac. In fact, many of those you label left wingers who are not extremists or radicals are much more 'conservative' than you and your right wingy radical extremists. Radicalisms and extremisms are by definition not conservative, or don't you and OPP RWEs understand that basic truth?


No ! Obama does ! He is going to sacrifice your freedoms for what HE thinks is fair! He has already done some of that and will do more. Was that supposed to be funny" You are more conservative than any right wing extremist" Then you must think your a radical extremist super conservative.
And I just don't see that! Your postings are, most of the time, Left, Progressive, Liberal slanted.

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Mar 12, 2014 12:09:43   #
Patty
 
Bigmac495 wrote:
Good for you! I don't know what jon's problem is , but I suspect he is at times on some strong pain killers because some of his postings I agree with!
I don't see ant any time you have posted anything that would discourage Conservatives. I agree with you, I am sick of all the lies also and all the pay off's going on in Washington. Oh! I'm sorry it's campaign donations!


He claims to have information,which even though incorrect could only be gotten if he is either on the forum payroll or he is an outright liar. Either way I try to stay clear of him because if you disagree with him it sends him on a trolling mission. I can only take comfort in knowing that he wastes a lot of time studying my every move and reporting back opinions that make no difference to me and would be better spent educating himself on current issues. :thumbup:

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Mar 12, 2014 13:26:45   #
Bigmac495 Loc: Indiana
 
Patty wrote:
He claims to have information,which even though incorrect could only be gotten if he is either on the forum payroll or he is an outright liar. Either way I try to stay clear of him because if you disagree with him it sends him on a trolling mission. I can only take comfort in knowing that he wastes a lot of time studying my every move and reporting back opinions that make no difference to me and would be better spent educating himself on current issues. :thumbup:


I found that there is supposedly a group called Joint Threat Research Intelligence Group sponsored by our government that is trying to see and take names of people who are saying anything about the present government. They are supposed to even try and make people mad enough to say those things. I.E.: Trolling or Fishing.
I'm sure they have me at the top of their list, but hopefully if I tie them up some else can by! It probably is best to ignore them and then maybe they will stop getting paid.
I posted a warning several months ago , but it didn't seem to slow anybody down. If they don't use factual references and use insults ( which they do a lot of) I wouldn't answer them. Maybe they will wither and die.
I figure I was too far gone when I found out. O well!

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Mar 12, 2014 13:55:08   #
Patty
 
I wouldn't put it past them. I just don't have it in me to stop saying what is true. We will see what happens. I had a lunatic ex who was an ex cop and liked to play fear games after a while you just don't care any longer till you know one of you has to go. He went.
Bigmac495 wrote:
I found that there is supposedly a group called Joint Threat Research Intelligence Group sponsored by our government that is trying to see and take names of people who are saying anything about the present government. They are supposed to even try and make people mad enough to say those things. I.E.: Trolling or Fishing.
I'm sure they have me at the top of their list, but hopefully if I tie them up some else can by! It probably is best to ignore them and then maybe they will stop getting paid.
I posted a warning several months ago , but it didn't seem to slow anybody down. If they don't use factual references and use insults ( which they do a lot of) I wouldn't answer them. Maybe they will wither and die.
I figure I was too far gone when I found out. O well!
I found that there is supposedly a group called Jo... (show quote)

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Mar 12, 2014 16:43:39   #
jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI
 
Bigmac495 wrote:
Well I haven't made up my mind yet. I don't see Patty as Left, Progressive or liberal yet from any of her postings!!


Mac, Patty has posted Russian propaganda posted on the internet by Russia Today (RT). Pat quotes Lyndon LaRouche as well as Paul Craig Roberts. Pat has an agenda that is extreme even in right wing politics. Be aware.

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Mar 12, 2014 16:49:25   #
Patty
 
jonhatfield wrote:
Mac, Patty has posted Russian propaganda posted on the internet by Russia Today (RT). Pat quotes Lyndon LaRouche as well as Paul Craig Roberts. Pat has an agenda that is extreme even in right wing politics. Be aware.


You're making a complete fool of yourself with your quest for revenge against someone who hasn't done a damn thing to you. You have some serious psychological problems troll.

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Mar 12, 2014 18:32:58   #
jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI
 
Patty wrote:
You're making a complete fool of yourself with your quest for revenge against someone who hasn't done a damn thing to you. You have some serious psychological problems troll.


My comments are not aimed at you but at anti-American propaganda in your postings. You have responded with troll comments and I have responded in kind. If you post comment, it is subject to counter comment. If you troll, it's subject to counter-trolling. You needed act innocent, and cry about attacking when you did it first. Cry baby doesn't work when you are the original really nasty troll. Such cute pictures you troll with, dearie.

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Mar 12, 2014 18:38:23   #
vernon
 
Btfkr wrote:
yeah yeah phoony. I lived through the ducking under desks and building bomb shelters as well, believe it of nuts. Seems all that was from the fear of commies OUTSIDE the U.S. not inside. Was there a communist Party in the Us? Yes there was and I am aware of that. Do I think it really would have really gotten anywhere McCarthy or not? No, my opinion is NOT. Regardless, my opinion is that Joseph McCarthy's tactics were un American, guilty until proven innocent, fear mongering drunken behavior and he should not be regarded as a hero in any way shape or form. You go ahead on and call him a hero. I choose not to.
yeah yeah phoony. I lived through the ducking und... (show quote)


typical demorat talking about mc and then come up with drunkiness i guess you thik that proves you point.

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Mar 12, 2014 18:38:45   #
vernon
 
vernon wrote:
typical demorat talking about mc and then come up with drunkiness i guess you think that proves you point.

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Mar 13, 2014 05:13:18   #
Patty
 
jonhatfield wrote:
My comments are not aimed at you but at anti-American propaganda in your postings. You have responded with troll comments and I have responded in kind. If you post comment, it is subject to counter comment. If you troll, it's subject to counter-trolling. You needed act innocent, and cry about attacking when you did it first. Cry baby doesn't work when you are the original really nasty troll. Such cute pictures you troll with, dearie.


You bounce around this site attempting to shred other peoples posts either due to low self esteem or you are getting paid. You never start a thread or add anything but habitual whining. Proof ? Its in your bio.
"Number of topics created: 1 (list)
Number of messages posted: 2031 (list)"
I lean towards you are a paid shill because if you weren't the admin wouldn't tolerate your childishness.

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Mar 13, 2014 09:10:11   #
vernon
 
Patty wrote:
You bounce around this site attempting to shred other peoples posts either due to low self esteem or you are getting paid. You never start a thread or add anything but habitual whining. Proof ? Its in your bio.
"Number of topics created: 1 (list)
Number of messages posted: 2031 (list)"
I lean towards you are a paid shill because if you weren't the admin wouldn't tolerate your childishness.


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Mar 13, 2014 09:12:20   #
vernon
 
Patty wrote:
You bounce around this site attempting to shred other peoples posts either due to low self esteem or you are getting paid. You never start a thread or add anything but habitual whining. Proof ? Its in your bio.
"Number of topics created: 1 (list)
Number of messages posted: 2031 (list)"
I lean towards you are a paid shill because if you weren't the admin wouldn't tolerate your childishness.


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