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Oct 23, 2018 16:09:46   #
Radiance3
 
Airforceone wrote:
I guess Trump finally admitted that his wealthy tax cuts that exploded the deficit by $2.4 trillion and rising at an alarming rate.

Did we not listen to this buffoon at his Hitler style rallies say his tax cut program was the largest tax cut in history targeted for the middle class. Well anybody with any common sense knows it was just a long list of his lies. It did nothing for the middle class.

Now with his tax cut being a total failure and the trickle down effect never trickled and the few jobs it created are now leaving because of his self inflicted trade war. He is saying two weeks before the mid terms he’s talking about a 10% tax cut for the middle class. The man is a buffoon this is never going to happen it’s just red meat for his idiot base.

What is really funny and I keep listening to this buffoon and these republicans on the campaign trail how they have voted to maintain health Insurance for people with pre existing condition. Pre-Existing conditions are covered under the ACA and they have voted 68 times to repeal the ACA with no replacement.

The republicans did try a what was called a skinny replacement where pre-existing conditions were covered but what these idiot Trump supporters don’t understand is yes pre-Existing conditions covered but insurance providers could put these people into a high risk pool and charge any premium cost they want with no regulations. Great plan for the idiots

Let me give you an example. My son has an incurable kidney disease before the ACA he had health insurance where he had $5 co-pays for his GP, $100 co-Pay for a specialist, $20 co-Pay for his medications and a $750 deductible. Great plan for $285 a month. When he was diagnosed with the kidney problem before the ACA his insurance was cancelled lost his job because his employer was looking at high premiums because of my son. But living in a red state there are no right to work. Now he was then put into one of those high risk pools and he applied for insurance as an individual. Well he was excepted but the premiums were $8,750 a month. Well that’s your Republican plan to cover pre-existing conditions:
I guess Trump finally admitted that his wealthy ta... (show quote)


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I am not affected. My tax will go up in 2018, with an income above $100k. But I still love and like president Trump. He is doing he best for all of us.

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Oct 23, 2018 16:12:00   #
Airforceone
 
Lonewolf wrote:
I would like to add our justice department is at this moment at the supreme court arguing pre-existing conditions are unconstitutional



They have already tried on two occasions. It has been litigated twice already. Maybe that disgusting POS Kavanaughs maybe able to throw 28 million people of healthcare. You evangelical hypocrites are against unwanted pregnancies but you kill them after there born. We have a large segment of our society that just don’t care about anything.

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Oct 23, 2018 16:19:45   #
Lonewolf
 
Airforceone wrote:
They have already tried on two occasions. It has been litigated twice already. Maybe that disgusting POS Kavanaughs maybe able to throw 28 million people of healthcare. You evangelical hypocrites are against unwanted pregnancies but you kill them after there born. We have a large segment of our society that just don’t care about anything.


you noticed but your wrong they do care about money and how to get yours!

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Oct 23, 2018 17:03:31   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
Airforceone wrote:
See that’s a line of BS that gets feed to you out of touch people. The guy that paid the $59 probably had 3 times the amount of wealth than the other guys. Don’t forget taxes are based on a percentage of earnings. In the last.
So to fill in your out of touch BS. Since 1979 that guy that paid $59 assuming he is part of the upper 1% wage earners has received a 159% pay raise compared to a 22.2% pay raise for the bottom 90%.

So to simplify the process for Idiot Trump supporters the bottom 90% of wage earners have received a $59 pay raise in 40 years. I tell you what give me a 159% pay raise and I will be happy to buy a few rounds of drinks for those guys paying zero taxes.

Now to add to the right wing stupidity if that guy paying zero taxes would not be in a bar because he couldn’t afford it because he is living on poverty wages. So WTFU

But this is typical right wing BS show a cartoon and not show the total picture.

Your destroying democracy and creating an Autocratic government where a GD Real Estate agent that went bankrupt 5 times bailed out by his Daddy and when daddy died he got his bailout money from the Russians and the Saudis.
See that’s a line of BS that gets feed to you out ... (show quote)




I hate to be contentious, my friend, but I can't quite make your figures say what you would like for them to say. Your statement has quite a few "if's", "probablies", and "assumptions" in it. Nevertheless, the one very noticeable component that stands out to me in your statement is that of jealousy and class envy. Most arguments against tax cuts fail to see the flaws in their reasoning. Why don't you give that beer example some more thought and I think you will see that it does make sense.

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Oct 23, 2018 21:48:42   #
Airforceone
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
I hate to be contentious, my friend, but I can't quite make your figures say what you would like for them to say. Your statement has quite a few "if's", "probablies", and "assumptions" in it. Nevertheless, the one very noticeable component that stands out to me in your statement is that of jealousy and class envy. Most arguments against tax cuts fail to see the flaws in their reasoning. Why don't you give that beer example some more thought and I think you will see that it does make sense.
I hate to be contentious, my friend, but I can't q... (show quote)


I understand you can’t make the figures work because you have been brainwashed by the Right wing idiots. They don’t understand either. It does take an ability to read understand then you fact check it. But it’s okay did you go to school in the south

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Oct 24, 2018 00:07:08   #
Airforceone
 
maureenthannon wrote:
Airforce, Do you think that it was a good thing that ALL Americans, but especially minorities got crushed when O was President' Unemployment went through the roof. BHO and Joe heprd the "companies that were too big to fail", but et the regular people try to scrape by on their own. After Trump became President, his tax cuts and cuts nthe regulations that were strangling businesses enabled the economy to grow, and got unemployment to record lows, for every one, but especially for minorities.When BHO was in office, the deficit increased by nore than all other Administrations combined. Obama doesn't want aw abiding citizens to have guns to protect themselves; Yet they gave weapons to Mexican Drug Cartels(Operation Fast&Furious, and to IslMterrorist groups, including ISIS and Al Qada in Libia, to kill Libian President Momar Ghadafi with. Aren't these the same ones that killed Americans in Benghazi?You Liberals seem to think that it's best to gie the government ALL of OUR money and power; Consrvatives think that it's better to have a government "Of, by, and for the people".
Airforce, Do you think that it was a good thing th... (show quote)


Unemployment went thru the roof prior to Obama. The unemployment rate was at 8.7% and the first three months of his presidency this country was purging 800,000 jobs a month and the rate went to 10.2%. All because of the Bush recession. So don’t blame it on Obama. Are you really that out of touch of what happened in 2007 and 2008 what is it with you people.

Black unemployment under the Bush recession went to 17.2% and when Trump took office it was at 4.5% it went down to 3.7% after his first three months which has had nothing to do with Trump but he started taking credit that’s why you make these out of touch comments that lack facts. Well Trump hasn’t been bragging in the last 4 months he went silent. That’s because in August the black unemployment went up to 5.9% and last month it went up to 6.6% and this was put out by the Bureau Of Labor Statistics so it’s not a propaganda BS put out by Trump. Look the guy has never done anything for blacks. Give me one thing just one that Trump has done for the Black communities just one.

Operation fast and furious was started under Bush at Homeland security they sold guns to the drug cartel to track them. I gave you a snapshot of when it started it was Bush not Obama. God Dammit when will you people do a little reseach before you post this BS about Obama. I don’t know where you get that the Mexican drug cartel gave guns to ISIS. But Trump now wants to sell $108 Billion in guns to Saudi Arabia and that is a nation of 20 million Muslims that practice Shria law. OBL was a Saudi he stated Al-Quada and it was 14 Saudis that took down the Twin Towers on 9/11 and Trump wants to sell them &107 billion in guns.

Look I understand you hate Obama so anything negative it automatically becomes fact in your mind. That’s okay I can give you a history lesson on al-Quada all the way to when ISIS was born but why not just do a little reseach and google who started Al-Quada and how ISIS was formed none of this had anything to do with Obama but he got it handed to him by Bush.

But let me just give you a quick history lesson. ISIS began in 2004 after Bush Iraq phony war as a Sunni Muslim group after Bush bombed Iraq. ISIS was a spin off group from Al-Quada.

Obama got handed a major recession with 10.2% unemployment and two wars and he has gotten nothing but right wing criticism.

The economy was growing when Trump took over. Under Obama when Trump took office Obama had 76 straight months of private sector job growth. His tax cuts did nothing for the middle class but the upper 1% of wage earner got a 17.7% tax break while the middle class got .3% increase and with inflation rising because of Trumps self inflicted Trade wars that .3% turns into less money in the pockets. Not to mention the the deficit going up $2.3 trillion. For 8 years you Trump supporters have been screaming about the deficit. But it’s okay now.

Please stop listening to that pathological lying POS that’s tearing our democracy apart to create an Autocratic society. Look at all these GD rallies and listen to what he says. He tears down our government agencies as corrupt he advocates violence against our free Press. He advocates lock them up when people disagree with him.

Oh by the way all those EO on deregulation 97% of them are not even in effect as of today. Just google it how many Yrump EO are actually in effect



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Oct 24, 2018 07:18:22   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
Airforceone wrote:
I understand you can’t make the figures work because you have been brainwashed by the Right wing idiots. They don’t understand either. It does take an ability to read understand then you fact check it. But it’s okay did you go to school in the south



That jealousy of anyone making more than you will cloud your thinking and keep you from seeing things logically. The video I posted was produced by a large CPA firm and puts this issue in an easy-to-understand format. If you still can't see that, then I'm afraid I can't be of further help.

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Oct 24, 2018 08:10:36   #
SilentGeneration Loc: Michigan
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
Yo...Goober.

Do you wreck your car first and then expect to buy insurance to cover the damages ?

No......you dont.

Do you Goober ?

So if you've already wrecked your health, why should you expect an insurance company to cover the ailments you acquired because you were too irresponsible to have secured insurance 'before' you wrecked your health ?

I don't pay taxes to pay for your stupidity.................... Goober.


Are you saying that people with pre-existing medical conditions have wrecked their health? If so, please explain how infants and children with cancer or diabetes have wrecked their health.

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Oct 24, 2018 10:36:17   #
Lonewolf
 
Pay no attention to him as far as I know all he ever does is call people goober

SilentGeneration wrote:
Are you saying that people with pre-existing medical conditions have wrecked their health? If so, please explain how infants and children with cancer or diabetes have wrecked their health.

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Oct 24, 2018 11:30:30   #
Airforceone
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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I am not affected. My tax will go up in 2018, with an income above $100k. But I still love and like president Trump. He is doing he best for all of us.


Tell me what he is doing. Your taxes are going up (HE PROMISED MIDDLE CLASS TAX BREAKS)

He has created a trade war, Prices are increasing, Inflation rising, Interest rates on the rise, Stock market heading downwards. And the deficit is exploding. Income in equality is widening the upper 1% of wage earners now owns 42% of this nation’s wealth.

What has he really done other than dividing this nation.

He has denigrated all our government agencies, he has denigrated all our allies, while embracing Russia, North Korea and now the Saudis.



Now could someone

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Oct 24, 2018 11:32:34   #
Lonewolf
 
Airforceone wrote:
Tell me what he is doing. Your taxes are going up (HE PROMISED MIDDLE CLASS TAX BREAKS)

He has created a trade war, Prices are increasing, Inflation rising, Interest rates on the rise, Stock market heading downwards. And the deficit is exploding. Income in equality is widening the upper 1% of wage earners now owns 42% of this nation’s wealth.

What has he really done other than dividing this nation.

He has denigrated all our government agencies, he has denigrated all our allies, while embracing Russia, North Korea and now the Saudis.



Now could someone
Tell me what he is doing. Your taxes are going up ... (show quote)



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Oct 24, 2018 11:36:13   #
Airforceone
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
That jealousy of anyone making more than you will cloud your thinking and keep you from seeing things logically. The video I posted was produced by a large CPA firm and puts this issue in an easy-to-understand format. If you still can't see that, then I'm afraid I can't be of further help.


One sided right wing video. It’s easy to understand but you fail to reseach the total issue then you become misinformed. You have an ideology and I respect that, you are entityto your own opinion but not your own facts. Look at the total picture. You pointed out one side look st the other side also then figure out if your perception is actually reality.
I gave you the Respect at looking at your side now reseach the total package.

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Oct 24, 2018 11:37:55   #
Lonewolf
 
Airforceone wrote:
One sided right wing video. It’s easy to understand but you fail to reseach the total issue then you become misinformed. You have an ideology and I respect that, you are entityto your own opinion but not your own facts. Look at the total picture. You pointed out one side look st the other side also then figure out if your perception is actually reality.
I gave you the Respect at looking at your side now reseach the total package.



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Oct 24, 2018 11:45:01   #
Airforceone
 
SilentGeneration wrote:
Are you saying that people with pre-existing medical conditions have wrecked their health? If so, please explain how infants and children with cancer or diabetes have wrecked their health.


This is the way Trump supporters think. My son has a genetic disease. It’s not his fault. It’s not that babies fault we live in a country now that we have no idea what we are eating, breathing, drinking. If you live near a coal or oil fired electric plant that statistics show these people are more prone to health problems. And if any type of regulations are put on a corporation these people believe the government is getting in the way.

But they will scream about abortion but it’s okay to kill people after there born,

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Oct 24, 2018 16:33:36   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
Airforceone wrote:
Tell me what he is doing. Your taxes are going up (HE PROMISED MIDDLE CLASS TAX BREAKS)

He has created a trade war, Prices are increasing, Inflation rising, Interest rates on the rise, Stock market heading downwards. And the deficit is exploding. Income in equality is widening the upper 1% of wage earners now owns 42% of this nation’s wealth.

What has he really done other than dividing this nation.

He has denigrated all our government agencies, he has denigrated all our allies, while embracing Russia, North Korea and now the Saudis.







Now could someone
Tell me what he is doing. Your taxes are going up ... (show quote)




Now, airforceone, here is a link that you should take a look at. www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/..


You are definitely missing a lot. I don't know why you insist on maintaining that attitude. That old line about being entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts is really getting old. It has been used so much that it is losing its clever ring. If you would spend some time reviewing what is on this link above, I think you might learn something about facts. All I hear from the left is that the top income earners are making too much, take them down a notch. You can't help the poor by punishing those who have been successful by whatever legal means. Do you realize that the poorest people in America are better off than most of the people in third world countries. Take your focus off how much entrepreneurs and successful people are making. It's not a "zero sum game." New business and increased production is good for everyone. Why shouldn't those who made it possible be rewarded. They have, in large part, provided the means by which many people have been lifted out of poverty. I'm thankful that there have been Henry Fords and Bill Gates' to give us opportunities to have a better life. I don't care how much money they make. BTW, if you click on that link and scroll down you will find a list of some of things that Trump has brought about. Enjoy the read.

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